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Re: Debt of Honor: Hanoi Jane The sad thing is that so many have forgot what she did or don't think that it was that bad. My wife got a movie she was in just after we got marred and I told her that "the movie or I go!" I knew Maj. Nick Rouw before he was killed in the '80s and to hear his story just kills me that she could do things like she did to him and stoll be free to walk the streets here at home. Get the book "Five years to freedom" and it will tell of the life he lived and how close he come to getting killed do to what she did. I have allways said that I would send as much money to the exspence of the man that killed her as I could. I am sorry that I feel that bad about anyone and do not wish to see her dead but I will say this: for what she did to the men in Nam, God will take from her what she took from them. I know that they will be standing by his side when they cast her out.

Re: Will we ever get them?? I too am looking forward to seeing them out of our way but I do hope we catch them and let the world court take care of them, that way they can not be used as marters and set everyone with a bomb vest off on a quest.

Re: 300 Win mag or 35 Whelen The only thing I can add to this would be do you reload? every Mom and Pop's store has ammo out west for the 300 Win Mag but may have a hard time getting the 35. I have been looking at the 35 for years and still would love to add one to my safe soon.

Re: Quite a dilemma for the Army. Well, again the Marines have landed and did the job well. The military is not the place for them to prance around. It is one thing to have to take a shower with other men but to have someone looking at me like a dinner date? Not if I would have anything to say about it. They have no more rights then anyone and the regs are the regs. I also agree with them. The military it getting to soft as it is, do to bringing women into the military, half the training you get anymore is being PC. I am not sorry, I think they should let the DI's or Drill Sgt. do his duty and train you to fight and not worry so dang much about hurting someone's feelings. After being out 18 years, I was in for a big shock going to my first school (the Green Berets are still going the same way as they did back in the '80s). The SSG teaching the class was cussing up a storm and then looked at the 2 femails in the class and said "I hope my cussing is not hurting anyone's feelings?" When the girl setting next to me said "Yes Sgt. it is!" I was looking for a hole to craw into becose I just knew I was going to get hit with the over kill, to my shock, he said he would try to watch what he said and did not mean to upset anyone. At brake he asked if I was OK, I told him I was but could not beleave what he just did. He said that I looked like I was ready to pass out when he said that! I am glad that I do not have to deal with the "NEW" army and God help us if they get to serve openly. One more thing, most of the Brits and Israely's that I have talked to have all said the same thing: they don't wont them eather! But again that is just the joe on the line that has to live with them...

Re: i don\'t usually ask for much!!!!!! On the way for your mom, you and your family.

Re: I could use some prayer as well On the way Buckee, wish you the best in this.

Re: Nap Time my wife seems to have the camra ready everytime that I have done that, she got one just a few weeks ago of me on the couch with my 2 yongest sons, 1 on my chest and the other across my legs, they are 5 and 6 so I was sorre from this nap but it is a good looking pic.

Re: Peas Planted...Toads Trilling Weather holds, I hope to get my hands in some dirt this weekend. Looks like we are not that far apart there Ohiobucks.

Re: Proud Daddy (pic)... Nice job, I am always glad to see the Young one's and Ladys out in the field. Keep up the good work.

Re: Please pray for my friend.... I just went through this with my team Sgt last Dec. He hit a van and totled the van with his bike. Broke his thum, shoulder, ribs and neck. Hi is still having problems with his breathing (right lung not working right, something about his nerves) He was sent to CMAC, that is a great place, is that ware they sent your friend? If so, PM me his name and I will try to get down to see him, I am only about 15 min from there and have to go out by the airport in the morning and be going right by there. If you can tell him that I will be in uniform, we are going to talk to the high school JRTC about the Special Forces. Will keep you, him and his family in our prayers.

Re: In-Laws I would not give up my Mother and Father in law for anything, I even gave up a great paying job to move to there farm (from my own farm that I still own) so they would have some help with the farm, now most of her family has moved back (why did they not do it 6 years ago when they was needed???) Well, I am glad that we moved, got us even closer then before. My wife is the baby of 5 and I like her brothers but well, I will not take about her sisters. As for my wife, she loves to take the boys to Pop's but have not made a trip to my mothers sense I went back on active duty last summer, about the way I fell about my family also, can't spend enough time with Dad.

Re: Practical Testing Tomorrow and Friday! Good luck, My wife is going bonkers and I keep telling her "9 more weeks". Getting though college has been a dream of hers and well "9 more weeks!"

Re: Helicopter crashes in Afghanistan Will have a prayer for them and the familys. IMHO the familys have the hardest part of being in the military. I can not tell you all how much there support means to me.

Re: Why We Are At War Norm, That is one way to look at the way that the we try to do things in this world. I would say that the Curds and Sheiets could be called the poor and fatherless and we are there to Deliver them from the wicked. Funny thing, with all the time I have at work, I read the Bible more now then ever. It helps alot when I am so far from my family. Last night I just got to the start of the book of Job and will be starting Psalms soon.

I know that I am very new to this site but I just went though this and thought that you all would like to hear it. A few weeks ago, I was asked if I have my dress uniform here with me, telling my NCOIC that I did not he told me to leave then (1300) and be back by 0700 the next day. Well, first things first "Why?" One of my friends had just lost his uncle that had raised him and was a WWII vet, so I drive 165 miles home to get my uniform and spend the night with my family (Normly only on the weekends I don't have to drill with my unit) So getting up at 0330 to get down her on time, I spend the next 3 1/2 hours riding in a car going to this little town a funeral for someone that I have never seen before. We got there about a hour before anyone else showed up, my friend was coming in on the morning fliet from Atlanta Ga. I walked in and looked at the man, how peacful and serean he looked. Then I thought about the storys that I had heard from Grady about his uncle and some that was shared from other friends that had knew Grady longer. Ed, had loved the outdoors and the only thing that got him away from his mountion home in WV was WWII. He had lived and Loved the same Lady for 63 years, she passed away on Jan 20th 2005 and there 64th would have been Feb 14th. I remember being told how he was shot down in a B-17 3 times and thought it was to much so he treansfered to the Inf. just in time to get shipped to the battle of the Bulge. Other storys about things he did (alot would not be beleaved here if I told them) brought this man to life for me at this time. Having been around the Military in one way or another the 43 years I have been on this earth, I have been to alot of Military funerals and never once thought of how the men felt. We was the very last to come in, after the family was setted and the last to leave after the preacher was done. A cold wind came down off the mounton and cut through the dress greens I had on. The drive to the grave gave me more time to think about the passing of Ed. We stood outside as everyone but the firing squad went inside. The last Benadiction and they brought the family back out, I was facing the wind and was so cold by now that my hands and face hurt. We fired our vollys and snapped to attion with a crisp salut as taps played, looking over the flag held up and though the flash suppreser of my weapon, there was Grady, with his hand salut and tears running down his face. I watched the flag being folded and could not stop the tears from my eyes. My hands was hurting so bad at this point that I could not stand it but I would not move. I felt a wormth come over me that I can not put into words and that is what stayed me from moving. As the family was walking away and thanking us, I was so moved that I could not talk. Then Grady came up and shook my hand with one word "Thanks!" and I can say this, I have never been payed better for anything that I have ever done in my life then that one word of thanks. It took over 2 hours for my hands to stop hurting but the wormth I felt from all this was more then rewording for the miner discomfert. I know that there may be alot out there that think it is just to plant the old Trooper but that day, Men I thought I knew better, was moved in ways that shocked me. It touched me to my soul and I will be glad the day that I can shake Ed and his wifes hand and thank him for the honer I was given to have been there. I hope that I have done this justess and please forgive the spelling but I am still so touched by this that I needed to share this with you all.

Re: Feelin sick. We have been fighting this dang junk all wenter, I think someone got it back in Sep and I had it so bad weekend before last I was caughing up blood. I am glad to see this worm weather get here so we can get some fresh air.

Re: For women of all ages apmourosr, Funny thing about kids, my oldest son did not like hunting at all. He would tell me that he "just could not kill anything." So I never pushed him, just told him how much I would like for him to go with us, then one day his cousin asked if I would take him hunting. The boy got a very nice 8 pt buck and that spring my son asked if I would let him go turkey hunting. He got his turkey and it was "OH WELL", then opening day of Duck season he killed a mallerd and tryed to get his lab to go get it but the lab keep going into a brush pill, I told him to let the dog go and here he came with his duck. The light in his eyes was priceless. He killed 3 deer that year, a button buck w/ a rifle, small racked 9 pt and his first deer was a very nice racked 17 7/8" outside spread 10 pt that scored 128 0/8". Not bad for the first year hunting. Last year I did not get home much to hunt do to the Guard and when I did he was sick (alergiesSP?) He is 16 now. My 10 year old allways loved the outdoors and I held the gun and he leaned on my back to pull the trigger when he was 4 for his first tree rat. Now he only seams to like to hunt with mommy, few years ago he just told me he did not like hunting much any more and mommy allways seamed to know when to come home but he is hunting more and asked me to take him out this spring. my 6 year old is so much like me it scares me, he shot his brothers 410, the hammer cut him under the eye and said, "can I shoot it again!" I can not get out the door without him right by me. What really scares me is he asked mommy if he can have a Special Forces birthday party this year and after seeing me jump out of the helo last fall, well I think I am going to have to bake his knee so the army will not take him. My Dad and I are both Green Berets and I don't need him doing the same thing as we did. My baby is 5 and till I went back on active duty last Aug he did not like to be around guns or hunt, now all he wonts to do is be with daddy when I get home even if that means going shooting or hunting, he still don't like to shoot anything but a bb gun but that is fine. Mommy did not hunt till we got marred and has killed 2 fall turkeys, 1 spring tom (that went 23 lbs 10" beard, 1" hooks), 5 deer (1 was 8 1/2 years old and 1 was a 10 pt) and lots of small game. She is in College now for Park, Rec and Wildlife and when she gets out this summer, she is looking to have a wild game bird farm. I am very thankful that God gave this Lady to me 8 years ago (it will be 8 years on the 16th of this month) Well I am though bragging for now about how lucky I am.

Re: Success In Iraq I could not agree with this more. Thanks Marine.

Re: started my..... You realy need to watch what you are doing, at your age you still have alot to grow yet and can hurt yourself for good if you go to much. My team Medic (the best Doc. I know with out a Lic LOL) will not let his boys lift till they are 16 and he is a gym aholic. Good luck in what you do but watch out.

Re: Why not? Norm, I forget the year now but I am thinking that it is about 320 something years, that the Guard has been serving the land and we was doing it long before any other branch of the militery. We all did this on our own, for what ever resone, serve our nation, college or just look good in a uniform? What ever but the first thing that we was told that we could and would be used in war as needed. I served from '79 till '86 and after sending my baby to school this past year, could not set by and watch all the young men and women doing what I feel I should be doing, so I came back in a year ago to do what I can to keep the peace. The biggest thing that I dis-agree with you is, I would rather go over there and keep them hopping there, then to have them here hitting us again like 11 Sep 2001. This is my $.02 and glad that you can share yours with us. That is what the Guard has been standing for all through the years here.

Re: Why go to church? I may not have power to make my brother any better but I do have the power to help my brother when needed. Most of my Church life has been spent in small churchs (less then 30 on any Sunday) and we ware there for each other all week long. I don't get to church now as much as I feel I should but the time that I do spend there makes me feel better for myself and that is what I am there for, to do what I feel is right by God and myself.

Re: Why We Are At War What a great post, I have tryed this with my sons but not to that point and it works. What gets me is looking at the news, one would think that we have lost this war and no one is willing to fight to win it. I see it every day, the men and women that are coming home or going back over. They all seem to have a air of pride beaming form them in knowing that they are doing a job that HAS to be done. They know what they face and yet they go to it with no hesitation. I wish the news would show what is going on in the other 90% of Iraq and 95% of the people of Iraq, that would shock most of the people of the US from what the news shows. I am proud to be back in uniform again and I feel that it was a strong enough resone to come back after being out 18 years. I have 4 sons and feel it is my honor to be here to do my part to keep the world safe for them. I don't have to agree with how you feel about this but I put my uniform on to protect your right to feel this way and will do so, just remember not to try to push your way on me. Just remember that the freedome that you have here was paid for with the BLOOD of them that stood up for us before and will be paid for with the Blood of others that will put the uniform on after us.

Re: For women of all ages I must be the luckest man on earth, my Loving wife got into hunting so we could have more family time and now our 4 sons look like they are going to be hunters too. I am gone most of the time now so the hunting is very nice. I have allways liked to see Lady's and young ones take up the sport that has ment to much to me. I keep telling my family that it is about the time that we share and getting game is just a plus. I will have to see if I can get mommy (my wife) on here, she has so much to do and so little time, what with college, 4 sons and me gone but somehow she seems to get it done. I keep telling her the her job is alot harder then me being in the army. She is also helping with the Ohio state Women in the Outdoors event.

Re: I Just Found Out..... Well, I got back in a year ago and Love it. If I would stayed in, I would have 26 years in now. The Guard took me back and now I am full time, there is not alot of jobs in SE Ohio or WV that pay as good as this. I seen on the state e-mail last week ware you could go in now up to 40, I just could not see me going to boot at that age. One of my friends here in my unit was in with my Dad back in the '60s and got a waver to stay one more year, he will be 60 this July. There is something about showing all the young ones how the old farts can do it still. OH ya, how I talked my wife into it, I told her that our oldest son will be 18 it 2 years and the baby is starting school so: "how about letting me play with the boys again!"

Re: Small town That is what I Love about Small town USA, seems like there is allways time to stop and see someone that needs it and the smile on there face is all that is needed. I will keep your Dad and your family in my Prayers.