Hey slughunter i think Tink has every right to bash Wisconsin if he wants. I live in this state, bow and gun hunt and i bashed it myself. I think this state has the worst DNR in the country. They have people in these jobs that got there because of political reason not because they wanted to really help the sportsman out. They are slaughtering these deer because of big name auto insurance companies and agencies alike. Explain to me how the state wants to have a herd goal at around 700,000 thousand or so deer and there are over 600,000 thousand gun tags sold. If everyone of those gun hunters shoots a deer there won't be any left. This state is a joke when it comes to trying to manage its animal herds. They were way high on deer numbers and way low on bear numbers. Somebody doesn't know what they are doing. And its these people who are in charge. Not saying its an easy job by no means, but these people don't seem to know which way is up. First deer, then bear and whats next. Tink i wish you had better luck, my gun season was terrible as it has been for so many years i can't remember. Lets go hunt Texas somewhere. At least we will see some deer.