I am seeing alot of rubs and scrapes they just started popping up over the last couple days,I saw a big 8 pointer about a 140 or 145 he keeps coming out about 6:00 every night I don't hunt and when I do he doesn't,I had 14 does come out last night hit the grunt call and had to small bucks come out and start fighting so I would say pre rut isn't to far off!