92xj Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 I hear of this often, but not sure why it's a problem. I have some breast meat in ziplock bags in the freezer, frozen in water. I want to thaw them out and put them in food saver bags to freeze now that I have a food saver. Why have a heard that you cant thaw and then refreeze meat? Is it really horrible to do and will I die? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bghunter777 Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Yes, If you freeze meat thaw it then refreeze it you will certainly die a slow and painful death. It starts with hemoraging of the throat and lungs with intermitten blindness over the next 48 to 72 hours you will slowly loose feeling starting in your extremities and working its way inward eventually shutting down your major organs. In the medical field we call this Carnorefreezinous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 I hear of this often, but not sure why it's a problem. I have some breast meat in ziplock bags in the freezer, frozen in water. I want to thaw them out and put them in food saver bags to freeze now that I have a food saver. Why have a heard that you cant thaw and then refreeze meat? Is it really horrible to do and will I die? It probably won't kill you---a fact that you will regret because you might be begging to die! I think it's one of those things that you might do it 10 times and get away with it and 11 might make you so sick that you projectile vomit everything which touches your stomach within 10 seconds of it touching it. I would just eat that breast meat first and then put new in the food saver bags. New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Never heard that it would kill ya Ben. If anything thawing and refreezing you will possibly lose some quality of the meat. Now if you let the meat thaw at room temp and the meat got to room temp and refroze it that would probably be another story. I have about 20 lbs of chunked frozen deer meat that needs ground, all in food saver bags, also have chunks from Wyoming in freezer paper that need trimmed before I grind it. Plan to thaw all at the same time just to barely thawed and setup the grinder to run all of it, only one setup and cleanup that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebohio Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 dethaw meat in fridge and you wont have a problem with bacteria. it will however affect the quality of the meat. it will dry it out some. id vac pack some marinade with it to counter this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeygirl Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Never heard that it would kill ya Ben. If anything thawing and refreezing you will possibly lose some quality of the meat. Now if you let the meat thaw at room temp and the meat got to room temp and refroze it that would probably be another story. I have about 20 lbs of chunked frozen deer meat that needs ground, all in food saver bags, also have chunks from Wyoming in freezer paper that need trimmed before I grind it. Plan to thaw all at the same time just to barely thawed and setup the grinder to run all of it, only one setup and cleanup that way. Yeah, what wtn said. I think it's more of you lose some of the taste and quality of the meat. Now if you let it sit around all day then decide to do it the next day and let it sit around some more...probably a better chance of some fun bacteria to start growing:death: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Is it really horrible to do and will I die? If you do, can I have your guns? Done some reading on this and from what I read, there is a fine line on what to do. Like Mike said, in the fridge is ok but I only seen where it was beef related thawing, not poultry so who knows, just try it and you will find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 ...will I die?I feel quite confident in predicting that yes, you will die. But it probably won't be from eating re-frozen meat. Depending on the size of the items, you might try sealing them while still frozen. I've done that before when I ran out of vacuum seal bags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 It hasn't killed me yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92xj Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 If you do, can I have your guns? Depends, which ones are you wanting? One thing, I have never had is food poisoning and I have had every kind of raw meat you can think of, well at least tried it. I think I am immune to raw meat problems. But then again, I dont think I have ever had old bacteria infected meat. I guess I will just keep them in ziplock bags frozen in water for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92xj Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 It hasn't killed me yet! Tell me more. What have you done to have this response? Thawed frozen steaks and then refroze them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Depends, which ones are you wanting? One thing, I have never had is food poisoning and I have had every kind of raw meat you can think of, well at least tried it. I think I am immune to raw meat problems. But then again, I dont think I have ever had old bacteria infected meat. I guess I will just keep them in ziplock bags frozen in water for now. The thing about it is that GENERALLY red meat will have a bad smell to it before you would catch food poisoning from it. Chicken often smells just fine but will make you sick....there's no feeling like food poisoning. It's like the worst stomach bug you have ever had but as soon as you put something on your stomach it comes right back up violently. I think I once puked up my spleen and appendix. New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 That rule of thumb was made for idiots Ben. The only reason they warn about un-thawing meat and refreezing it is because too many people would take advantage of it, and leave their meat thawed out too dang long (which allows micro-organisms to grow). If you're going to thaw it out and refreeze it, just do it as quickly as you can. I always wait until it is just thawed out, but still cold. It is perfectly fine. I also get burger and sausage made from deer meat that is more than a year old, which hasn't been a problem at all. BUT..if you do die, I want those skulls back...eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92xj Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 The thing about it is that GENERALLY red meat will have a bad smell to it before you would catch food poisoning from it. Chicken often smells just fine but will make you sick....there's no feeling like food poisoning. It's like the worst stomach bug you have ever had but as soon as you put something on your stomach it comes right back up violently. I think I once puked up my spleen and appendix. New Yeah, thats what I hear. I have seen people that have had it, have eaten off the same plate that someone claims gave them food poisoning, yet I didnt get it. It seems to be something everyone and their brother gets at least once in their life. Now, i', sure ive had some form of with the other end, but never puked or felt bad. Oh well, I'm sure my time might come but for now I think I have an untouchable stomach, when it comes to sicknesses that cause vomit. So, yes or no to thaw out my duck breast that are frozen solid in water and refreeze them in food saver bags? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92xj Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 That rule of thumb was made for idiots Ben. The only reason they warn about un-thawing meat and refreezing it is because too many people would take advantage of it, and leave their meat thawed out too dang long (which allows micro-organisms to grow). If you're going to thaw it out and refreeze it, just do it as quickly as you can. I always wait until it is just thawed out, but still cold. It is perfectly fine. I also get burger and sausage made from deer meat that is more than a year old, which hasn't been a problem at all. BUT..if you do die, I want those skulls back...eh They will be hanging on the wall when i'm gone! You still have my address, come on down and get them. Take all the other ones on the wall and have my collection! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Thanks Ben But seriously now..you're duck will be just fine to eat. No worries at all, as long as you don't let it sit on the counter thawed out for a couple of days and then decide to re-freeze it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92xj Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Thanks Ben But seriously now..you're duck will be just fine to eat. No worries at all, as long as you don't let it sit on the counter thawed out for a couple of days and then decide to re-freeze it. My plan was to let it thaw and once its out of the ice place it in a food saver, seal it up and throw it right back in the freezer. I dont even plan for the meat to go completely limp, just thawed enough to get it out of the chuck of ice it's in in the ziplock bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Yeah, thats what I hear. I have seen people that have had it, have eaten off the same plate that someone claims gave them food poisoning, yet I didnt get it. It seems to be something everyone and their brother gets at least once in their life. Now, i', sure ive had some form of with the other end, but never puked or felt bad. Oh well, I'm sure my time might come but for now I think I have an untouchable stomach, when it comes to sicknesses that cause vomit. So, yes or no to thaw out my duck breast that are frozen solid in water and refreeze them in food saver bags? My plan was to let it thaw and once its out of the ice place it in a food saver, seal it up and throw it right back in the freezer. I dont even plan for the meat to go completely limp, just thawed enough to get it out of the chuck of ice it's in in the ziplock bag. So long as you do as your plan I think it would be just fine Ben. Thaw in fridge to just enough to knock off the ice then bag it in your foodsaver bags and should be good. For that matter you could run under cold running water just enough to get the ice off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92xj Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 So long as you do as your plan I think it would be just fine Ben. Thaw in fridge to just enough to knock off the ice then bag it in your foodsaver bags and should be good. For that matter you could run under cold running water just enough to get the ice off. Sounds like a plan. I will try a batch this weekend and see how it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 So long as you do as your plan I think it would be just fine Ben. Thaw in fridge to just enough to knock off the ice then bag it in your foodsaver bags and should be good. For that matter you could run under cold running water just enough to get the ice off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 yep. you're going to die, ben. in fact, none of us are going to get out of this world alive. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Duck breasts frozen in water will last almost as long as vacuum packed. If I thawed it out and cooked it all up. I'd vacuum pack and freeze the leftovers with no worries whatsoever. If you are determined to repack, like others have said just thaw it enough to break the ice off it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 YES!! That will lead to certian death...send the questionable frozen meat to me amd I will properly dispose of it!....lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoss Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 from USDA web site. trust if you want http://www.fsis.usda.gov/News_&_Events/Script_Freezing_&_Food_Safety/index.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92xj Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 from USDA web site. trust if you want http://www.fsis.usda.gov/News_&_Events/Script_Freezing_&_Food_Safety/index.asp Thanks Hoss. I think I will thaw and refreeze all the breast meat, rabbit and quail that I have and keep the 10 plucked ducks in their frozen water bags. I am needing to find some space in the freezer and I think this will be the best route to take. Its pretty amazing that I have nothing else in the freezer besides duck , 3 rabbit back half and 6 quail and the think is slap full. Its an upright that is about 45% of my fridge. Anyone want to come by for a duck cook out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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