jesse8953 Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 After season is over and you cleaned your ml what do you use to prevent rust in the barrel?Last year I tryed the cabelas brand rust preventative patches and had a little rust in the barrel when I got it out this season.Not much and it didn't take much to get it out but would rather have no rust in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Good question Jesse, gonna be interested in seeing others replies. Have had similar issues with finding rust in the past and that with different types of preventatives from bore butter to regular gun oils to break free clp. Used rem oil in the black diamond this last time after I cleaned it, will take it out every month or so and check it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETMGROW Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 I usually turn the gun upside down and let it sit overnight to dry on a floor register in the house. Then I run a patch saturated with bore butter through the barrel and leave it in there. Just use a dry patch to clean the barrel next time I want to use it. Never had a rust problem doing it this way. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 it seems like with my blued T/C Encore ProHunter, if I clean it with regular stuff like I would my rifles it'd get a little rusty. I clean it really well like you would any other gun, but I use T/C foaming cleaner (Gun Scrubber) for the barrel and then coat the barrel with a patch of T/C Bore Butter. It seems to keep things from rusting up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotashRLS Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 I agree with the bore butter. Apply a good coat and reapply in a couple months or so if you are worried. Dry patch it out before you shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETMGROW Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 The trick to using bore butter is to have the barrel absolutely dry before you butter it up. The BB will trap moisture and you could have a mess. I have also used a hair dryer in the past to dry everything out. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 The trick to using bore butter is to have the barrel absolutely dry before you butter it up. The BB will trap moisture and you could have a mess. I have also used a hair dryer in the past to dry everything out. Lynn Done that before too, after washing the barrel in soapy water as hot as it would get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETMGROW Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 To be honest with you all, I have tried something new. A friend of ours from north of the border came over last fall with his TC muzzleloader. After using it he used the TC-17 cleaning patches and seasoning patches. These are pre saturated and very simple and quick. I can't stand not trying something new so I bought the same thing and have cleaned and stored my MZ after using these patches. I checked my MZ tonight and so far so good. I am always a little reluctant to spill my guts about something new until I am sure it either does or doesn't work. I'll keep you informed. Trust me, if it isn't good I'll be the first to tell you. Kevin's gun looked good and he has been using these for a while now. He is very fussy about his equipment. I used bore butter on my wifes MZ and the TC-17 on mine so I could draw a comparison. The TC-17 is fast and did really clean the barrel good and easily. Stay tuned. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjam5 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 I am a bore butter storage guy also. I have used those blue T/C pre sat patches also, but only for cleaning. But for the storage, it has been the bore butter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrontierGander Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 most of my bores used dyna tek bore coat which is a ceramic coating inside the bore. Prevents rust - corrosion and makes clean up easier. The guns that do not have this, get montana xtreme conditioner. I am not to big on oil but the Montana stuff has done a good job. Bore butter - seasoning patches are a waste of money. I will never go that route ever again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHISKEYSWAMP Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 To be honest with you all, I have tried something new. A friend of ours from north of the border came over last fall with his TC muzzleloader. After using it he used the TC-17 cleaning patches and seasoning patches. These are pre saturated and very simple and quick. I can't stand not trying something new so I bought the same thing and have cleaned and stored my MZ after using these patches. I checked my MZ tonight and so far so good. The TC-17 patches are all I've ever used on my stainless Encore and have never had a problem with rusting. I also spray some black powder solvent for a couple of the pass throughs. It usually takes about 4-6 patches to get it completely clean. I also carry the patches while hunting and use between shots if I have time. As long as you clean your ml within a day or so of using it, there shouldn't be a problem. However, I don't have experience with blued barrels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnatecsteve Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 My flintlocks are Green Mountain barrels and "cured" with TC Bore Butter. When I clean them to store, I clean till patches are clean coming out, then Ill run a patch with rubbing alcohol down the barrel to evaporate any residual moisture. Then a HEAVY coating of Bore Butter. I also use Bore Butter for the lock, outside of barrel, and give the wood a rub down as well, including the ramrod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PA_RIDGE_RUNNER Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Tried the bore butter buty had less than adequate results with it. Also found it was really hard to clean that stuff out to shoot from a clean bore. My barrels are steel barrels so they do not need cured like a cast frying pan. Since I started using oil to store my guns no problem. I have used CLP, G96, A very good household oil, Remoil and probably others and have not had any sort of rust issue. If I plan on a more long term storage I use more and wet the inside of the barrel and store barrel down with a folded cloth underneath. Most of my front loaders do not get all that much rest but none have any rust either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnatecsteve Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 In response to that..... I find that flintlocks using traditional black powder benefit by curing the barrel. I have a lot less swabbing to do than many guys that shoot flintlocks, especially with my smooth rifle, Yeah..just like a cast frying pan that you can just wipe out...same principle. Ever tried it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grady269 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Maybe this is the wrong thing to do for some reason I am not sure. I leave the breech plug out of my Encore when I store it. I did the same thing with my Knight Disc Rifle. I coat the inside of the barrel with Break Free CLP and have not had a problem. When I used to store it with the Breech plug in it would rust in the barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETMGROW Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 I always leave the breech plug out of my MZ. If for no other reason, I would just have to remove it again to clean the bore before I use it again anyway. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSmoke Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Cleaning & storing a ML Maybe it's overkill, but I clean mine thoroughly with PAM, a well-known mixture of peroxide, alcohol and Murphy's oil. After that, I run some Break Free down the barrel and over all exposed metal parts followed by some dry patches down the barrel. After this, I swab with bore butter, leaving the rifling covered with a heavy film of bore butter and the exterior covered with the Break Free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PA_RIDGE_RUNNER Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 As I stated before I do not use bore butter. I only use real bp in my flintlocks, percussion, and inline rifles. I used bore butter for the first couple of years in my flintlocks and got some rusting everytime I did that. I then took to a real cleaning regimin. I probably take 30 to 45 minutes to thoroughly clean my rifles if I am going to store it for any period of time. First I had a real time cleaning that bore butter from the bore. I take the rifle down and clean with HOT soapy water till the patches come out clean. I then rinse in very HOT clean water I rinse till the barrel is warm enough to evaporate the water on the outside of the barrel and feel assured it is doing the same for the inside. I run a dray patch down the barrel and set aside till the lock is completely cleaned. I then use modern solvents on the dry barrel. Mostly use a foaming cleaner that is designed to remove lead, plastic and powder crud. It always amazes me what comes out of what should have been a clean barrel. I then coat the bore with a quality oil nearly to the point of it running out of the bore. I then reassemble the rifle and wipe the outside with oil and store in a humidity controlled gun safe bore down. I have stored front loading rifles for several years and never again had a rusting problem. When I go to use any of my front loaders I first run an alcohol patch and a couple of dry ones to clean out the oil. Use what you want but that is how I do mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earnhardts12000 Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 i use bass pro shops citrus spray spray barrel out then coat barrel with hornady lube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tecumseh Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 I clean mine with the same stuff I clean my regular rifles with and coat the barrel with wd-40 and have never had any problems with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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