Usama Bin Laden dead !!!

[FSU_Seminole]

Yes, they did! Finally some closure for U.S. familys who lost loved ones

I'm still not giving Obamma any credit for it, nor will it buy my vote, he sure played loose with the term "God"..he never gives credit to the one and true GOD

Man its always a great day to be an American even on the of days in life. Today is A SUPER DAY to be an American if you love this country.

I usually don't get into politics on forums like this. Hunting is an absolute pleasure for me and I love to share my thoughts and feelings with others without discussing politics. But you are so wrong my friend. I'm not preaching at you or telling you who to vote for or what side of the political aisle to lean. But

1. Barack Obama is NOT A MUSLIM, he's is a Christian who believes that Jesus was and is the risen savior.

2. He was not born in Kenya, and his birth certificate is NOT fake. Anyone who believes that is equally as stupid as the liberals who believe Osama bin Laden and W Bush plotted & planned 9-11 and bin Laden is the poor arab fall guy.

3. It took tremendous courage for Obama to authorize this strike inside another sovereign nation without a single American life being lost nor with anything being leaked. The mission was flawless and he authorized it. I thank President Obama for continuing the commitment of looking to kill or capture bin Laden started by the Bush administration. Both Presidents deserve some credit. I give special thanks to the 24 seals and the pilots who killed him!!!!!! Osama bin Laden like Hitler was an evil man that not only killed innocent Americans but killed thousands of his own people. He got a bullet in the chest and 1 over the left eye last night with 300 million American names on them. Bin Laden is dead while life goes on at the WTC, the Pentagon and is Pa.

If you don't like Barack Obama thats fine, their are plenty of things like taxes and health care you can be mad at the man about, but don't mar this tremendous moment with the muslim birth certificate not giving any credit stuff. This is a symbolic victory for us all. You mess with innocent Americans you are going to die!!!!!!

God bless the USA!!!!!!!!!!

Edited May 2, 2011 by FSU_Seminole

[Swamphunter]

Ive heard conflicting reports, but latest is that they double tapped him right in the melon and scrambled all that brown stool like material he called brains! :gun_bandana:

Good Riddance scumbag... hope we soon dump your loudmouth brother's dead carcass in the ocean for the sharks to eat also.

[Ravin R10 man]

1. Barack Obama is NOT A MUSLIM, he's is a Christian who believes that Jesus was and is the risen savior.

FOR REAL??...thats the best one Ive heard yet...lol

[m gardner]

Woke up to the news with sleepy eyes, couldnt hardly believe it. Don't know the long term consequences of this, sure is a good day for us now. Unreal how somebody can stay hid that many years with such a price on his head.

Seems like there has been a paradigm shift in the muslim world and maybe Bin Laden doesn't fit into it any longer. Someone had to give him up, hiding in plain view like he was. He must not have had any connection with much of anybody. He was killed last week and no one in the muslim world knew and reported it?

I have a queasy feeling when things like this are announced a few days before the unemployment and economic numbers come out.

[ruttinbuc]

To make Obama so courageous as if he alone made the decision to go in and kill this guy. Bin Laden was on the kill list since the Clinton days. How naive can some of you be. Any sitting president would have no choice but to do the same.

[wtnhunt]

Glad he is gone if it was really him they killed. Few questions for me on this, some conflicting reports still. Read they did NOT identify him by dna.

Man its always a great day to be an American even on the of days in life. Today is A SUPER DAY to be an American if you love this country.

I usually don't get into politics on forums like this. Hunting is an absolute pleasure for me and I love to share my thoughts and feelings with others without discussing politics. But you are so wrong my friend. I'm not preaching at you or telling you who to vote for or what side of the political aisle to lean. But

1. Barack Obama is NOT A MUSLIM, he's is a Christian who believes that Jesus was and is the risen savior.

2. He was not born in Kenya, and his birth certificate is NOT fake. Anyone who believes that is equally as stupid as the liberals who believe Osama bin Laden and W Bush plotted & planned 9-11 and bin Laden is the poor arab fall guy.

3. It took tremendous courage for Obama to authorize this strike inside another sovereign nation without a single American life being lost nor with anything being leaked. The mission was flawless and he authorized it. I thank President Obama for continuing the commitment of looking to kill or capture bin Laden started by the Bush administration. Both Presidents deserve some credit. I give special thanks to the 24 seals and the pilots who killed that !!!!!! Osama bin Laden like Hitler was an evil that not only killed innocent Americans but killed thousands of his own people. He got a bullet in the chest and 1 over the left eye last night with 300 million American names on them. Bin Laden is dead while life goes on at the WTC, the Pentagon and is Pa.

If you don't like Barack Obama thats fine, their are plenty of things like taxes and health care you can be mad at the man about, but don't mar this tremendous moment with the muslim birth certificate not giving any credit stuff. This is a symbolic victory for us all. You mess with innocent Americans you are going to die!!!!!!

God bless the USA!!!!!!!!!!

Sounds like a good topic of debate for the religious room. I am not going to further highjack this thread on Obama's history, schooling, and beliefs and I am not giving Obama any credit here for what has taken place either.

Seems like there has been a paradigm shift in the muslim world and maybe Bin Laden doesn't fit into it any longer. Someone had to give him up, hiding in plain view like he was. He must not have had any connection with much of anybody. He was killed last week and no one in the muslim world knew and reported it?

I have a queasy feeling when things like this are announced a few days before the unemployment and economic numbers come out.

Real good point there Mark. Interesting that Bin Laden's whereabouts had been known supposedly since last August, big question in my mind is if so why the wait? Why give him the chance to slip away again?

To make Obama so courageous as if he alone made the decision to go in and kill this guy. Bin Laden was on the kill list since the Clinton days. How naive can some of you be. Any sitting president would have no choice but to do the same.

Yep, should have been taken care of long ago. Clinton had the piece of crap and let him go.

Funny to me that some folks out there really and truly thought 9/11 was staged or was missiles and not planes, yet seems so many are so quick to get defensive at the idea that what could be movie caliber makeup and video prove this guy is really who was whacked.

[PotashRLS]

To make Obama so courageous as if he alone made the decision to go in and kill this guy. Bin Laden was on the kill list since the Clinton days. How naive can some of you be. Any sitting president would have no choice but to do the same.

I agree 100%! He had no choice. If he had not given the order, his presidency would officially be over. I still have a problem with him nearly breaking his arm patting himself on the back in his address to the nation. I, I, I, Me, Me...........etc.

With that said however, I must be the bigger man and tip my hat to President Obama for making the right decision in continuing the policies and intelligence that led to taking out bin Laden.

[Ethan Givan]

Interesting that Bin Laden's whereabouts had been known supposedly since last August, big question in my mind is if so why the wait? Why give him the chance to slip away again?

Dont know that they actually knew for sure last August that he was in that compound. They had to get more intelligence to confirm it before trying anything.

Also, the team of Navy SEALS have been training for this specific mission for 8 months. They had a mock up of the compound and they were practicing the mission over and over. Thats why it took so long to get him. We took the time to prepare and made sure we had everything perfect and ready to go, so there was little chance of failure.

[hogwild63]

President Obama is NOT A Muslim... I agree.

Is he a Jesus believing Christian... I have my doubts he will make the final cut. We ALL will have to wait and see on that one. .

He alone made the decision... true. He could have pulled a Clinton and bombed the compound - and missed again. Only he can authorized the operation. Whether the operation was a success or failure, I think he made the right decision. It encourages me to see he had the kahunas to make that decision. If I had been in the situation room with him, I think I might have even hugged him.

[wtnhunt]

Dont know that they actually knew for sure last August that he was in that compound. They had to get more intelligence to confirm it before trying anything.

Also, the team of Navy SEALS have been training for this specific mission for 8 months. They had a mock up of the compound and they were practicing the mission over and over. Thats why it took so long to get him. We took the time to prepare and made sure we had everything perfect and ready to go, so there was little chance of failure.

Let me clarify that I have absolutely no doubt about the abilities of our men and women in our armed forces and the special ops teams that carry out these type missions and I am thankful for their dedicated service. If anything I am surprised anyone felt they had to practice for 8 months, these people are already very well trained. Possible they had to wait for intel to confirm he was there, dunno. Like I said in my prior reply some questions in my mind.

Far as Obama's part in this, figure all he had to do was either say yes or no as to whether to proceed when he was faced with whatever he was briefed by those with the intel, sure does not earn him the respect he seems to think he is due.

[hogwild63]

sure does not earn him the respect he seems to think he is due.

Well said.

Emphasis "he". I still will never vote for him, partly, for that very reason.

[Ohiobucks]

"We got him!"

YouTube - Osama Bin Laden Is Dead (South Park)

[hoosierhunter]

Here's something no one has seemed to bring up yet. The major debate was over bombing the compound and not being able to officially show that we killed him. Now we have the death pictures to prove he's dead, but we are asking everyone "just take our word for it." We gotta quite worrying about making some insignificant people mad and officially prove to the entire world we put one right in his dome like we said we did! If you got a problem with it don't look at it!

[Ravin R10 man]

I say show the pics..prove it! This could go like obamma's birth certificate..on and on and on...

osamma's family is already making false statements going against what the Seals say went down

[m gardner]

I say show the pics..prove it! This could go like obamma's birth certificate..on and on and on...

osamma's family is already making false statements going against what the Seals say went down

The US govt. has made way too many conflicting statements on their own so far which has many people believing it's a lie. They should have made one statement and stuck to it. I believe he is dead but I believe we did too much storytelling about the process by which it happened because what we really did offended some people.

[wtnhunt]

The US govt. has made way too many conflicting statements on their own so far which has many people believing it's a lie. They should have made one statement and stuck to it.

Yep, exactly my thoughts. Initially they said they would not use dna to prove it was him then they came back and said it was confirmed to be him with dna, so which is it?????

As for the pics, the hanging of hussein was available as were pics of several al qaeda bad guys, why not pics of osama unless there is some other reason than what the gov't is giving.

[Tominator]

Could we please stop posting acronyms for profanity please?

Sorry to be a wet blanket, but Scott requested this a few months ago.

Thanks.

[hogwild63]

picture relased

The White House just relased this picture as proof.

[hogwild63]

on a more serious note...

I have not been able to confirm this and it is probably on of those "emails" but if true.... :angry:

It would be great if someone knows whether this is legit or a hoax.

Obama Hesitated – Panetta Issued Order to Kill Osama Bin Laden

This update comes some 24 hours after our longtime Washington D.C. Insider first outlined shocking details of an Obama administration having been “overruled” by senior military and intelligence officials leading up to the successful attack against terrorist Osama Bin Laden. What follows is further clarification of Insider’s insights surrounding that event.

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Q: You stated that President Obama was “overruled” by military/intelligence officials regarding the decision to send in military specialists into the Osama Bin Laden compound. Was that accurate?

A: I was told – in these exact terms, “we overruled him.” (Obama) I have since followed up and received further details on exactly what that meant, as well as the specifics of how Leon Panetta worked around the president’s “persistent hesitation to act.” There appears NOT to have been an outright overruling of any specific position by President Obama, simply because there was no specific position from the president to do so. President Obama was, in this case, as in all others, working as an absentee president. I was correct in stating there had been a push to invade the compound for several weeks if not months, primarily led by Leon Panetta, Hillary Clinton, Robert Gates, David Petraeus, and Jim Clapper. The primary opposition to this plan originated from Valerie Jarrett, and it was her opposition that was enough to create uncertainty within President Obama. Obama would meet with various components of the pro-invasion faction, almost always with Jarrett present, and then often fail to indicate his position. This situation continued for some time, though the division between Jarrett/Obama and the rest intensified more recently, most notably from Hillary Clinton. She was livid over the president’s failure to act, and her office began a campaign of anonymous leaks to the media indicating such. As for Jarrett, her concern rested on two primary fronts. One, that the military action could fail and harm the president’s already weakened standing with both the American public and the world. Second, that the attack would be viewed as an act of aggression against Muslims, and further destabilize conditions in the Middle East.

Q: What changed the president’s position and enabled the attack against Osama Bin Laden to proceed?

A: Nothing changed with the president’s opinion – he continued to avoid having one. Every time military and intelligence officials appeared to make progress in forming a position, Jarrett would intervene and the stalling would begin again. Hillary started the ball really rolling as far as pressuring Obama began, but it was Panetta and Petraeus who ultimately pushed Obama to finally act – sort of. Panetta was receiving significant reports from both his direct CIA sources, as well as Petraeus-originating Intel. Petraeus was threatening to act on his own via a bombing attack. Panetta reported back to the president that a bombing of the compound would result in successful killing of Osama Bin Laden, and little risk to American lives. Initially, as he had done before, the president indicated a willingness to act. But once again, Jarrett intervened, convincing the president that innocent Pakistani lives could be lost in such a bombing attack, and Obama would be left attempting to explain Panetta’s failed policy. Again Obama hesitated – this time openly delaying further meetings to discuss the issue with Panetta. A brief meeting was held at this time with other officials, including Secretary Gates and members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but Gates, like Panetta, was unable to push the president to act. It was at this time that Gates indicated to certain Pentagon officials that he may resign earlier than originally indicated – he was that frustrated. Both Panetta and Clinton convinced him to stay on and see the operation through.

What happened from there is what was described by me as a “masterful manipulation” by Leon Panetta. Panetta indicated to Obama that leaks regarding knowledge of Osama Bin Laden’s location were certain to get out sooner rather than later, and action must be taken by the administration or the public backlash to the president’s inaction would be “…significant to the point of political debilitation.” It was at that time that Obama stated an on-ground campaign would be far more acceptable to him than a bombing raid. This was intended as a stalling tactic, and it had originated from Jarrett. Such a campaign would take both time, and present a far greater risk of failure. The president had been instructed by Jarrett to inform Mr., Panetta that he would have sole discretion to act against the Osama Bin Laden compound. Jarrett believed this would further delay Panetta from acting, as the responsibility for failure would then fall almost entirely on him. What Valerie Jarrett, and the president, did not know is that Leon Panetta had already initiated a program that reported to him –and only him, involving a covert on the ground attack against the compound. Basically, the whole damn operation was already ready to go – including the specific team support Intel necessary to engage the enemy within hours of being given notice. Panetta then made plans to proceed with an on-ground assault. This information reached either Hillary Clinton or Robert Gates first (likely via military contacts directly associated with the impending mission) who then informed the other. Those two then met with Panetta, who informed each of them he had been given the authority by the president to proceed with a mission if the opportunity presented itself. Both Gates and Clinton warned Panetta of the implications of that authority – namely he was possibly being made into a scapegoat. Panetta admitted that possibility, but felt the opportunity to get Bin Laden outweighed that risk. During that meeting, Hillary Clinton was first to pledge her full support for Panetta, indicating she would defend him if necessary. Similar support was then followed by Gates. The following day, and with Panetta’s permission, Clinton met in private with Bill Daley and urged him to get the president’s full and open approval of the Panetta plan. Daley agreed such approval would be of great benefit to the action, and instructed Clinton to delay proceeding until he had secured that approval. Daley contacted Clinton within hours of their meeting indicating Jarrett refused to allow the president to give that approval. Daley then informed Clinton that he too would fully support Panetta in his actions, even if it meant disclosing the president’s indecision to the American public should that action fail to produce a successful conclusion. Clinton took that message back to Panetta and the CIA director initiated the 48 hour engagement order. At this point, the President of the United States was not informed of the engagement order – it did not originate from him, and for several hours after the order had been given and the special ops forces were preparing for action into Pakistan from their position in Afghanistan, Daley successfully kept Obama and Jarrett insulated from that order.

This insulation ended at some point with an abort order that I believe originated from Valerie Jarrett’s office, and was then followed up by President Obama. This abort order was later explained as a delay due to weather conditions, but the actual conditions at that time would have been acceptable for the mission. A storm system had been in the area earlier, but was no longer an issue. Check the data yourself to confirm. Jarrett, having been caught off guard, was now scrambling to determine who had initiated the plan. She was furious, repeating the acronym “CoC” and saying it was not being followed. This is where Bill Daley intervened directly. The particulars of that intervention are not clear to me beyond knowing he did meet with Jarrett in his office and following that meeting, Valerie Jarrett was not seen in the West Wing for some time, and apparently no longer offered up any resistance to the Osama Bin Laden mission. What did follow from there was one or more brief meetings between Bill Daley, Hillary Clinton, a representative from Robert Gates’ office, a representative from Leon Panetta’s office, and a representative from Jim Clapper’s office. I have to assume that these meetings were in essence, detailing the move to proceed with the operation against the Osama Bin Laden compound. I have been told by more than one source that Leon Panetta was directing the operation with both his own CIA operatives, as well as direct contacts with military – both entities were reporting to Panetta only at this point, and not the President of the United States. There was not going to be another delay as had happened 24 hour earlier. The operation was at this time effectively unknown to President Barack Obama or Valerie Jarrett and it remained that way until AFTER it had already been initiated. President Obama was literally pulled from a golf outing and escorted back to the White House to be informed of the mission. Upon his arrival there was a briefing held which included Bill Daley, John Brennan, and a high ranking member of the military. When Obama emerged from the briefing, he was described as looking “very confused and uncertain.” The president was then placed in the situation room where several of the players in this event had already been watching the operation unfold. Another interesting tidbit regarding this is that the Vice President was already “up to speed” on the operation. A source indicated they believe Hillary Clinton had personally made certain the Vice President was made aware of that day’s events before the president was. The now famous photo released shows the particulars of that of that room and its occupants. What that photo does not communicate directly is that the military personnel present in that room during the operation unfolding, deferred to either Hillary Clinton or Robert Gates. The president’s role was minimal, including their acknowledging of his presence in the room. At the conclusion of the mission, after it had been repeatedly confirmed a success, President Obama was once again briefed behind closed doors. The only ones who went in that room besides the president were Bill Daley. John Brennan, and a third individual whose identity remains unknown to me. When leaving this briefing, the president came out of it “…much more confident. Much more certain of himself.” He was also carrying papers in his hand that quite possibly was the address to the nation given later that evening on the Bin Laden mission. The president did not have those papers with him prior to that briefing. The president then returned to the war room, where by this time, Leon Panetta had personally arrived and was receiving congratulations from all who were present.

In my initial communication to you of these events I described what unfolded as a temporary Coup initiated by high ranking intelligence and military officials. I stand by that term. These figures worked around the uncertainty of President Obama and the repeated resistance of Valerie Jarrett. If they had not been willing to do so, I am certain Osama Bin Laden would still be alive today. There will be no punishment to those who acted outside the authority of the president’s office. The president cannot afford to admit such a fact. What will be most interesting from here is to now see what becomes of Valerie Jarrett. One source indicated she is threatening resignation. I find that unlikely given my strong belief she needs the protection afforded her by the Oval Office and its immense powers to delay and eventually terminate investigations back in Chicago, but we shall see.

[dartonman]

Famous last words of Bin Laden....I need 24 Navy Seals in my house, like I need a hole in my head!!!....lol.........al

[buckee]

Obama's birth certificate has already been proven to be a fake. Let's hope Osama's death certificate isn't a fake too.

That's all I have to say. :poke:

[fly]

Relief is my fealings on the matter - given it is true. As the President - Obama has a duty to protect our Nation. If there was a chance to take out a threat the man has to authorize the attack. Any president would (especially with the election right around the corner). Maybe some degree of credit goes his direction concerning the final decision on the type of attack. I really don't know and even if he went over there and shot Bin Laden himself I'd vote conservative in the next election.

I don't trust Presidents. "I did not have sexual relations with that woman." (remember that one?). I really hope this isn't a lie / faked death to get votes.

Pretty sad when Americans never know exactly what is true and what isn't.