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[Guest bronco_mudder]

Four RCMP officers were shot and killed in rural Alberta today. I just caught part of the story on the news, but apparently they were conducting a bust on a marijuana grow op on a farm. The farmer had hid in a big shop, and shot the four officers with a rifle, and then killed himself, thats all I caught.

I wonder how this could have been prevented?? Of course police officers, regardless of what type of situation they are entering, should use the utmost level of caution, but the normal officer is carrying a sidearm, not a rifle, and that is a little hard to compete with. It is a sad thing to here about scum acting in such a way, and killing the people that are there to protect us.

I have many friends that are officers with the Winnipeg Police Service, and most, but not all of them are of the oppion that pot should be legalized. Now I am not siding either way, but if it was legal then would these deaths have happened??? In one way I see the legalization of pot in a positive way. The government could lisence companies to grow it, thus generating revenue, in more way than one. There would be companies that grow it, manufacture it into consumable product, and distribute the product for retail. This would create jobs so there could be less people on social assitance and more people paying taxes. As well the govenment could put a large tax on it the way they have done with cigarettes, and alcohol, to create even more revenue. Maybe if it were legal alot of the hype around it would fade as well. You wouldn't be such a rebel if you could just buy it at a store.

Then you have to look at the bad side, the long term health effects, the driving while under the influence. You may notice this list is a little short, but don't hate me for it, because I can't think too many right now, of course there are a lot more. You could argue that drugs can be the root of serious family problems, but really does the govenment care about that, they don't mind alcohol and gambling. Another possible issue is home grown, and how to deal with it, but people can make their alcohol, and have illegal gambling houses also, it is just some thing the gov. would have to deal with.

Please don't hang me, I personally don't care if pot is legal or not, even if it sounds like I lean toward the legalization side. It was the death of the four heros that got me to thinking of a way it could have been prevented. There are many other ways that could have stopped this situation before it got started, but for some reason this was the first to come to mind, and I can't explain why.

[buckee]

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Some pot-head grower just shot 4 cops. He obviously was a few bricks short of a load, and you think that making it legal might have stopped that ??...I don't think so ..

[tedicast]

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I'm not sure making pot legal would have changed anything. Ig pot was legal, this guy would have been doing something else illegal to make a buck!

To bad he didn't save some ammo ans just kill himself, the results would have been the same.

[dartonman]

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Well for one thing, I feel the announcement of four officers losing their lives should of took total focus of this post, but since it is now on the legalization of mariguana, I feel this may be better suited in the political room......just a thought...al

[sureshot]

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I heard it on the news and became sick! I was great friend with a RCMP office when he first was stationed here, now he is in Edmonton, all I can do is hope andpray it was not him! Whether or not it was still makes me sick, the laws we have up here are bull, a officer is there to protect my kids, my wife and everyoen and they can not pull a gun til one is pulled on them,theya re scared to shoot couse soemone will try to charge them especially if he was a minority, these poor officers and families, they were just doing there job and soem piece of crap took everythign away! All this does to me is tells me how damaging pot is if soemonewill kill 4 guys doing there job then it is not to safe to be legal to everyone!

I agree with al lets forget about illegal or legal, lets have this post for the 4 officers who died doing there job Send a few prayers out to there families and friends, they well deserve it!

[wtnhunt]

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Some pot-head grower just shot 4 cops. He obviously was a few bricks short of a load, and you think that making it legal might have stopped that ??...I don't think so ..

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Same thoughts here. What a terrible shame those officers lost their lives. Legalization is not and will not ever be the answer.

[carbonhunter]

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Some pot-head grower just shot 4 cops. He obviously was a few bricks short of a load, and you think that making it legal might have stopped that ??...I don't think so ..

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Same thoughts here. What a terrible shame those officers lost their lives. Legalization is not and will not ever be the answer.

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I agree 100% here in the USA, but in canada they have gone so far that i dont see them going anyother direction other than legalization. They have pretty much de-criminalized it.

My prayers go out to the officers families.

[LifeNRA]

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Great, and when they legalize it guess where it will come to! The States! Then we will have even more problems!

[horst]

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Thats terrible about the cops that were killed.Pretty sad when 4 people lose thier lives over what boils down to a field of weeds.

Legalizing pot, I wouldnt lose any sleep over it if they legalized it tommorrow personally.But where would you then draw the line?To truly decriminalize it you wouldnt be able to regulate it like you suggest.You would have to make it totally legal to possess or there would still be the crime associated with it.People would still be growing thier own, which would cut out the chemist completey.Its still cheaper to grow than it is to buy, even at a reduced government price.

Harder drugs would be another story completely.If they were in government control they would be regulated, and the dosages sold would be very low.Just like prescription drugs now, they would have safety standards.For any drugs these standards would mean a small amount of the drug, and at a lower potentcy than what you will find with street drugs.Junkies arent intersted in small amounts of drugs with limited effects, theyre out to get high.

The regulation part of this plan would never fly, look at prescription drugs now, theyre heavily regulated but theyres more than likely millions of people abusing them anyway to get high.

Ill agree, drugs are never going away, and its a war the governments never gonna win.But I cant help to think if they legalized them tommorrow there would still be a market for better, more powerfull drugs then the gobvernment would be willing or able to sell.And then youd still have the crime, the dealers, the growers, and the junkies looking for a better high.

[Guest bronco_mudder]

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I guess when I first started typing I had just heard the news of the shooting, immediatly my mind started racing. I was trying to think if I knew any of the RCMP members there, but I didn't. The next thing that came to mind was the friends that I have that are officers in Winnipeg. As stated in my initial post some of the officers would like to see pot legalized, but it is only out of frustration, because the law doesn't permit them to do anything to a person on simple possestion. which I also think is crazy because you have to be able to prosecute on every level, not just on the larger scale. Well from that I started thinking how bad it would be to have something happen to them on the job while enforcing a law that they feel shouldn't exist, of course it would be terrible for something to happen to them under any circumstance, but feelings may be more hurt if they didn't agree with that law overall. Then I just started putting down the thoughts that you read.

Well, I'd like to reply about the rest, now I was just talking about pot, not any of the "chemical coctails" that are extremely addictive, after only a use or two, not saying that weed isn't addictive, a person can become dependant on anything, but is an addiction similar to but slightly stronger than tobacco. As far as the crime that would come along with weed, if it was legal and sold at retail, would the crime be any worse than what is associated with alcohol, I'm not sure if it would be. As for if it is legalized in Canada, and then it would be come to the US, I'm sure you already know that is in absolutely every state already, so it wouldn't all of sudden show up there. I also believe that there would still be home grows, but it there wouldn't be the grows as there are now, like I said before people still home brew alcohol, but it isn't a huge problem like all the illegal grows are now, why risk prosecution when you can buy something over the counter?

I meant no disrespect to the officers, or their families, my thoughts and prayers are with them. I also appologize for the lack of focus on my chosen title, it was not meant to confuse or trick anyone. As well I appreciate the replies, and have no hard feelings toward any of them, like I said before I don't have strong feelings on either side, it was just something that ran through my mind when I was in a state of shock.