MCH Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Tressel resigns?? Hope the new coach has thick skin and a fabulous sense of fashion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckbuster11 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 What a friggin con artist this Tresse isl. He's walking around in a sweater vest acting like he's the good ol boy next door. Meanwhile he is running one of the most corrupt programs in the country. Anyway, Ohio State will be better off because you know dang well they are hiring Urban Meyer. Matter of fact I'd bet $100 this whole situation got to the public by people at Ohio State who wanted to run Tressel out so they could hire Meyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gzilla45 Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 I don't see Meyer going there right away. From the sound of it they are probably going to lose scholarships and bowl games for a while and I don't see Meyer stepping into that situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 (edited) I was never a fan of his game time coaching. But he's a good man. I can think for myself, and not be led around by the nose by ESPN and reporters like Geogre Dohrmann. For one, you can take the 5 star recruit out of the hood, but you can't take the hood out of the 5 star recruit. These players were punks, and Terrell Pryor is the worst thing that happened to OSU. Tressel tries is best to turn these punks into upstanding young men. He encourages them to pray, he does his best to teach them values...but they want to smoke their pot, get their jailhouse tats in exchange for their Gold Pants... Tressel can't monitor them 24/7, and a punk like Pryor is unreachable and filled with ego. When Tressel received that email informing him of his players actions, he reached out to Pryor's mentor...a man I'm sure Tress hoped would be able to reach Pryor and get him to change his ways. If you guys are gonna sit there and say you would have hit the print button and ran with that email down the hall to the NCAA Compliance officer...you're lying. If you all think Tressel is the only coach turning a blind eye to boosters hooking kids up with cars, no show jobs, and the like you guys are crazier than I thought. Every program does this- it's only when you're on top- you get pinched. SMU at the time, USC a few years ago, and now the Buckeyes. The same things go on at Sun Belt Conference schools, but you won't hear about it because it doesn't make for as good a story as does programs like USC and OSU going down... Edited June 1, 2011 by muggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 I think he's a good man too, but unfortunately, it looks like he let players and wins dictate his program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckbuster11 Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 Oh how the great sweater vest has the wool pulled over your eyes. Go read the SI article and then come back and tell me he is a good man. He's running around acting like he's the son of God meanwhile he's rigging raffles that high school kids put money into so his recruits will win. Yeah, God loves that stuff. What a joke. All this sweater vest Christian BS is a total act. Sure this stuff happens all over the country. But don't act like he's this great man. This dude is a cheater and a con artist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 (edited) Chris- can you name a coach at a major Div. I program who's job isn't dictated by wins? John- I read the SI article...hence why I referenced the author, George Dohrmann, in my first reply. You know what I read, Ray Small, a punk who never lived up to his potential and was always disgruntled about his lack of playing time as well ex cons and crinimals being quoated as Dohrmann's 'sources.' I'd like to know how much SI compensated those dbags. Did Tress mess up? Sure. But this has been a witch hunt, orchestrated by the most hypocritical organization around, the NCAA. When you hear former players talk about the man's character and the impact he's had on their lives, that's all you need to know. Every Div. I coach turns a blind eye to 'friends of the program' taking care of players, bud, even JoPa. If Penn State were any good, SI would be digging for dirt on them too ma man. Edited June 2, 2011 by muggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckbuster11 Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 JoePa pays players. I know that for a fact. He also doesn't run around acting like he's better then everybody because he's a great Christian man. How is SI digging dirt? They are doing a story. A story that was uncovered by the FBI in a federal raid. Are ESPN and SI and everybody else supposed to ignore that and not follow up on it? Speaking of the FBI, did you know Sweater Vests main connection at Youngstown State, you know the guy he told all his players to go see for $100 handshakes, has 103 federal charges against him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncbound hunter Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 i guess i can see both sides of the argument; what happened at OSU is definitely BS, but as muggs did point out, is that this crap happens at every major school. It just so happens that OSU got caught with their hand in the cookie jar; and the NCAA in a face saving maneuver is throwing OSU and its coach and players all under the bus to make it look like they are doing something about the problem.And I'm really not sure how and why the FBI and all them are involved, unless their is something bigger going on, than what I caught in the articles I had read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 SI went out and found every Columbus lowlife they could...great sources. Tressel does A LOT OF GOOD for his players and THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE. Every program has guys giving $100 handshakes, man. For a slimeball like Dohrmann to try an tear down a man's character the way he did, shows you all you need to know. Even after all of this, Tress is still a way better person than George Dohrmann will every be. Rigging a raffle so top recruits could win when he was a low level assistant coach? Really Dohrmann? That's the 'dirt' you're going to put into your story? Then you're going to back that up with testimony from convicted felons? Wow...way to build a case you schlep... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 I think he's a good man too, but unfortunately, it looks like he let players and wins dictate his program. Chris- can you name a coach at a major Div. I program who's job isn't dictated by wins? What I mean is, I think Tress got too caught up in the program and lowered his standards in doing so. He looked the other way too much. I think he let Pryor dictate a lot of his program in the last 3 years. It was uncomfortable watching some of those press conferences. He was afraid to discipline Pryor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Oh, and Johnny..... Your opinions don't count unless you step up and claim a college team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckbuster11 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Fine. I claim the University of New Mexico. How's that?:drink: Now I would like muggsbow to explain to me how some guy writing a SI article is a worse person than Mr. Con Artist Sweater Vest.:phone: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Mr. Dohrmann tries to pass his own judgement on Tressel's character in that article. I'm fine with him recounting the 'facts' of the case- if that's what you want to call loose 'testimony' from disgruntled former players and ex-con's (who were all paid to talk)- but why don't we keep your stupid opinions out of it, Dohrmann? I'm sure if the entire SI staff devoted the next 3 months of their lives to diggin up dirt on Dohrmann's past, they'd be able to find their fair share... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckbuster11 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 What "opinions"? You are aware the FBI uncovered this whole mess right? Not SI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 (edited) John, I've known you for quite a few years now and to this point, you seem to have displayed some intelligence. So, clearly, you're smart enough to pick up through Dohrmann's tone- his obvious axe to grind. Read these... "When those revelations became public, Tressel said he hadn't known what the players had done and expressed disappointment that they had not listened to what he called the "little sensor" inside them that knew right from wrong. By ignoring his own "little sensor" and failing to be forthcoming, Tressel protected key players from being ruled ineligible for much of the 2010 season, in which the Buckeyes were a popular pick to reach the BCS championship game." To your point about the FBI discovering this...read Dohrmann's own words...you think SI was paying for info...I sure do. "That support crumbled suddenly over Memorial Day weekend. Tressel was forced out three days after Sports Illustrated alerted Ohio State officials that the wrongdoing by Tressel's players was far more widespread than had been reported. SI learned that the memorabilia-for-tattoos violations actually stretched back to 2002." Again, grinding away at that axe. The line I boldfaced is where Dohrmann's opinions should be left out as an unbiased member of the media... "For more than a decade, Ohioans have viewed Tressel as a pillar of rectitude, and have disregarded or made excuses for the allegations and scandal that have quietly followed him throughout his career. His integrity was one of the great myths of college football. Like a disgraced politician who preaches probity but is caught in lies, the Senator was not the person he purported to be." Edited June 6, 2011 by muggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 sounds more like truths than opinions, to me. You are right about one thing though, I am sure all of the big time schools do it. If he would of stepped up and suspended the players for the bowl game last year, like most coaches would have done, I imagine the "witch hunt" might have not been as severe. As it is, the way he did things, he is getting what he deserves. If it was bad enough to be suspended for "next year" it should have happened immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobucks Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 If he would of stepped up and suspended the players for the bowl game last year, like most coaches would have done, I imagine the "witch hunt" might have not been as severe. As it is, the way he did things, he is getting what he deserves. If it was bad enough to be suspended for "next year" it should have happened immediately. NCAA ruled the kids could play in the bowl game. There was far too much money on the line for all parties involved to not let them play. It wasn't just Tressell's call to suspend them or not (at that time). Now if he would have gone public with it right away way back when it all came to him, things would have been different (maybe). All we can do is speculate, but I'm guessing that Brown (OSU AD) had something to do with this as well..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 NCAA ruled the kids could play in the bowl game. There was far too much money on the line for all parties involved to not let them play. It wasn't just Tressell's call to suspend them or not (at that time). Now if he would have gone public with it right away way back when it all came to him, things would have been different (maybe). All we can do is speculate, but I'm guessing that Brown (OSU AD) had something to do with this as well..... HEY, don't try to confuse me with facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gzilla45 Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 ESPN reporting Terrell Pryor has left the team. The saga continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckbuster11 Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Oh and that he was making 40k a year signing footballs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 NCAA ruled the kids could play in the bowl game. There was far too much money on the line for all parties involved to not let them play. It wasn't just Tressell's call to suspend them or not (at that time). Now if he would have gone public with it right away way back when it all came to him, things would have been different (maybe). All we can do is speculate, but I'm guessing that Brown (OSU AD) had something to do with this as well..... :yes: Oh and that he was making 40k a year signing footballs... Only because nobody at New Mexico is worth $40k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckbuster11 Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 I dont know about that. Our freshman RB is looking pretty promising. I wonder if Pryor will even make 40k playing for the Saskatchewan Rough Riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 NCAA ruled the kids could play in the bowl game. There was far too much money on the line for all parties involved to not let them play. It wasn't just Tressell's call to suspend them or not (at that time). Now if he would have gone public with it right away way back when it all came to him, things would have been different (maybe). All we can do is speculate, but I'm guessing that Brown (OSU AD) had something to do with this as well..... Exactly. The NCAA is a joke. They want the big name players in their BCS game, they want to sell jerseys with the big name players' numbers on the back of them, they want to profit on the national TV revenue these kids bring in for them... Then, the minute they find out these players are selling or trading in THEIR OWN PERSONAL PROPERTY to get a tatoo...the NCAA says, WHOA...that's a voilation!! Really dude?? 'Cause from where I'm standing the only people doing the voilating work at the NCAA corporate office. Then a snake in the grass like Dohrmann drags a good man's character through the mud to sell his story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMn106 Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 As a Michigan fan I can not believe I am saying this, I agree with Muggs on this one. If Tressel was a fraud/con artist someone would have found out about his character a long time ago. The man has been a coach a long time and makes one mistake and now people are calling him every name in the book. To me all of this stuff with ncaa violations are on the kids. They know the difference of right or wrong and it is sad to see a GREAT coach lose his job over some selfish kids. Weather you agree with the rules about selling memorabilla, rules are rules and the kids know they were doing something wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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