DSGB Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 This guys either a serious adrenaline junky, or he's a few fries short of a Happy Meal. Sullivan - Nitro Express I don't know if any of this information is true, but I heard the uy likes to intentionally wound animals (hence the blood spewing from their mouths in the video) and quickly follow up on them to provoke a charge. I also heard the camera man used to work for Realtree. Maybe soemone else could drop some more knowledge on this guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James7xChamp3 Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Re: Talk about up close and personal He says they are the most watched and talked about hunting movies in the world! Never heard of him. Didn't finish watching the video. The intro was pretty tasteless. If he's wounding animals like you say he might be, he should be hung! Hopefully that isn't true. Think I'll stick with my Realtree and Drury videos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILSNIPER1 Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Re: Talk about up close and personal Well, I sure hope they don't find his dumb a** dead somewhere. Pro Hunter my FOOT! Lets see, You go to a "ZOO" & wait for something to charge you & then.. shoot it in the head & let it drop dead at you "FEET!" I'M NOT IMPRESSED!!!! Guys like this will be the downfall of our sport! Phil B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDog Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 Re: Talk about up close and personal WOW!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 Re: Talk about up close and personal ...And that's just more fuel for antis to think we're all like that. I do wonder where they sell pants that'll fit over cojones that big though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetailkiller Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 Re: Talk about up close and personal [ QUOTE ] WOW!! [/ QUOTE ] yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NS whitetail Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 Re: Talk about up close and personal [ QUOTE ] ...And that's just more fuel for antis to think we're all like that [/ QUOTE ] yup ------- that was pretty disgusting I think that is NOT hunting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitrrophybowhunter Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 Re: Talk about up close and personal What an idiot. Please send me the clip when he gets trampled by one of these beasts!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesVee Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 Re: Talk about up close and personal I'm going to have to view the clip for myself, which I am currently downloading. But I'm definately not going to start calling the guy an idiot yet. Some of you might think he may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but if he is hunting dangerous game on foot and in close quarters I'd say he has got some major cajones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion_70 Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Re: Talk about up close and personal I think he's a bad hunter, excuse me there, he's not a hunter. Apparently he has no ethics and doesn't have the desire to improve his skills to make a one shot kill... If that many animals are being wounded just for some video, it's terrible.. If he was truly a hunter he'd kill it with one shot, especially with a gun of that caliber... In fact, I think he's a wimp hiding behind that gun like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvDog Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Re: Talk about up close and personal Amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeygirl Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Re: Talk about up close and personal OMG, I didn't even finish watching, how sick! That is not hunting in my book, more like some guy acting on his inflated ego being a cruel jerk! (did I state my opinion enough,lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palssonater Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Re: Talk about up close and personal Nature always finds a way to remove people like that from the gene pool. The sooner the better for that doodie-head. (would be good if I could cuss on here) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bowhunter2114 Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 Re: Talk about up close and personal I got this from a write up by him...[ QUOTE ] I could never adopt the traditional approach of a gentleman's safari [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I speak out on these issues by candidly, honestly and vividly describing the perils and risks of following up wounded Cape buffalo and rogue bull hippo [/ QUOTE ] He wouldn't have to fallow up if he wouldn't wound them first I would quote more but I am getting sick of reading this C**P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Re: Talk about up close and personal What a flippin idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Re: Talk about up close and personal Intentionally wounding them would explain the bloody mouths when he's standing 5' from them and going for the kill. Clown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Re: Talk about up close and personal and if his weapon misfires....Then what???? I have to say this is not strength in the face of danger....but merely stupidity and the face of ego. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallmunster Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Re: Talk about up close and personal I am curious how many of you have watched any of his videos in their entirety, not just the trailer? I would also like to know if anyone has any proof to offer for some of the comments made in this post? Some of those are pretty strong accusations to offer after watching a short trailer. Accusing someone of intentionally wounding animals, shooting them in a zoo, and being unethical ought to be offered up with some proof. This link also sheds some light on this subject, if you decide to read it make sure you read it all the way to the end. web discussion Perhaps someone who has hunted lion, cape buffalo, hippo, etc... in Africa can comment on these videos and tell us if they accurately portray it to those of us who haven't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest okladeerhunter Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 Re: Talk about up close and personal That really ticked me off I have no use for some one like that. I even email the clown and told him exactly what I thought of it and him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowhtr1 Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 Re: Talk about up close and personal I think his luck will run out soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaDeerHunter Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 Re: Talk about up close and personal [ QUOTE ] and if his weapon misfires....Then what???? I have to say this is not strength in the face of danger....but merely stupidity and the face of ego. [/ QUOTE ] He will get trampled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILSNIPER1 Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 Re: Talk about up close and personal Smallmunster, Well, I don't know what you call that type of hunting? I have seen these type's of hunts before, I think most of them take place in Africa? From what I have seen, most all of the "hunters" I've seen on these "hunts" are wearing NO camo & are guided by a native that leads the "rich white man" out to the nearest watering hole & has him pick out a "trophy" & than waits for it to charge & then shoots! I don't need to see any more of that "Pro Hunter's" video to prove to me he's not an IDIOT! Just what do you think the non-hunting public thinks after watching this CRUD! It sure don't make us look very good. They are going to think that is the way EVERYONE hunts! Later, Phil B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallmunster Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 Re: Talk about up close and personal [ QUOTE ] Smallmunster, Well, I don't know what you call that type of hunting? [/ QUOTE ] From what I have read I call it hunting in Africa. [ QUOTE ] I have seen these type's of hunts before, I think most of them take place in Africa? From what I have seen, most all of the "hunters" I've seen on these "hunts" are wearing NO camo & are guided by a native that leads the "rich white man" out to the nearest watering hole & has him pick out a "trophy" & than waits for it to charge & then shoots! [/ QUOTE ] How do you know you have seen these types of hunts before when you admit to not having watched the videos? Nor do I begrudge someone who can afford to go over there and go on safari, I would like to do it myself someday. Do you have a problem with the way the video is shot or with African hunting in general? I'm also still waiting to hear your evidence that he shot them in a zoo? By zoo I am assuming you mean behind a high fence? [ QUOTE ] Just what do you think the non-hunting public thinks after watching this CRUD! It sure don't make us look very good. They are going to think that is the way EVERYONE hunts! [/ QUOTE ] I think they would think the same thing as when they see an up close shot of a turkey getting its head blown off or the slo-mo of an arrow going back and forth through a deer. My issue is not that some don't like the videos it is that rumor and innuendo are taken as fact. I am not going to run someone down about how they choose to hunt without facts. As I said before if there is proof out there that this guy is intentionally wounding animals or shooting them in a zoo I would be glad to hear it and then form my opinions from there. It doesn't take much time to research cape buffalo hunting and see that a cape buffalo charge doesn't have to be provoked, an "intentional wound" can be in the lungs, that camo isn't usually necessary because cape buffalo have very poor eye sight, that it is not always as easy as sitting at a watering hole and picking out "your" trophy, and the reason that pro hunters shoot right after the clients do is because hunting cape buffalo is dangerous and might very well kill you. This is an interesting story about a cape buffalo hunt. It is pretty good reading if you like that sort of thing. LINK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILSNIPER1 Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 Re: Talk about up close and personal Smallmunster, I think you & most every one here know's what I ment when I said "zoo" (animals that don't try & evade you.) After watching the video posted above I get a very good idea of what the rest of the video is going to be like. It's like w/all hunting videos.. they show some action packed footage to get you drawn in, you can bet you just seen some of the "best" of what is on the video! I may be wrong? As for that style of hunting.. NO, that's not for me! "I think they would think the same thing as when they see an up close shot of a turkey getting its head blown off or the slo-mo of an arrow going back and forth through a deer." When is the last time you had a turkey or whitetail charge you.. or, for that matter, just stand there when it knew you were there & let you shot him?! lol I think we have all made our point's & now you know how I feel. Later, Phil B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallmunster Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 Re: Talk about up close and personal [ QUOTE ] I think you & most every one here know's what I ment when I said "zoo" (animals that don't try & evade you.) [/ QUOTE ] Actually, I didn't know what you mean't, that is why I asked. When I think of "zoo" I think high fenced hunts in Texas or whereever, not in the middle of Africa somewhere. Just so I am clear do you think all African hunting is like shooting them in a zoo or just when they are staring at you or charging you? [ QUOTE ] After watching the video posted above I get a very good idea of what the rest of the video is going to be like. It's like w/all hunting videos.. they show some action packed footage to get you drawn in, you can bet you just seen some of the "best" of what is on the video! I may be wrong? [/ QUOTE ] I would say you are right that they showed the exciting (read Kill) scenes, that is basic marketing. Calling it the best part of the video would depend on what you think the best part of a video should be. What the trailer doesn't show is the hunt setup and explanation of why they do things the way they do (it seems that isn't what sells videos, African or otherwise). Looking at the trailer and thinking what is depicted is easy is the same as someone thinking the Realtree staff goes out for an hour and kills a big buck on every hunt. It doesn't happen that way usually, you don't see all the hunts that don't result in a kill or see them sitting there for days and not seeing anything. [ QUOTE ] When is the last time you had a turkey or whitetail charge you.. or, for that matter, just stand there when it knew you were there & let you shot him?! lol [/ QUOTE ] How is it less sporting to kill an animal that knows you are there and is trying to kill you vs shooting one from ambush? Trying to look from the non-hunters perspective I would think that they might think it was more sporting for the animal that has the chance and very real capability to kill the man that is hunting him vs a "defenseless deer" or turkey ("defenseless" added because I'm sure most of us have answered the question "Why do you shoot those poor defenseless deer, I know I have). Whether or not you would ever do it or not, I don't see how going toe to toe with dangerous game can be called less sporting when the playing field is a lot more level than when hunting game that most generally doesn't "shoot back?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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