pointing_dogs_rule Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 It's been about 21 days since that 1st rut and the 2nd phase is kicking in. Very little activity the last week until the last few days. Bucks are chasing the does around that last few days. Last night I went out a rattled and had bucks coming from all different directions. Neat to play with those little guys. Good luck to all the dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deer slayer Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 I hunted hard first and second week of Dec. and one day I can't remember the date but bucks where chasing like crazy, after that I didn't see any rut activity and I have no clue why maybe it was because it was warm out or some thing. I hope the second phase will start heating up a bit. Good luck to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Whitetails are close to a bovine cycle which is 26 to 28 days...not 21..I seriously doubt you are seeing the second cycle...probably just a few late ones in their first cycle would be my guess. If it was the second week of December then I'd agree with your conclusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Tend to agree with Martin, although not as harshly. Not seeing anything around here lately, not even roadkill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Tend to agree with Martin, although not as harshly. Not seeing anything around here lately, not even roadkill. I was harsh?..lol just the way I saw it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointing_dogs_rule Posted November 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 Whitetails are close to a bovine cycle which is 26 to 28 days...not 21..I seriously doubt you are seeing the second cycle...probably just a few late ones in their first cycle would be my guess. If it was the second week of December then I'd agree with your conclusion That's interesting Mathews XT Man. I have been a Veterinarian for that last 25 years and work with dairy cattle everyday. I probably palpate 500 cows per week and work with the reproductive cycle. I will advise my professors at the College of Veterinary Medicine that the bovine reproductive cycle is NOT 21 days as we were taught, but 28 days. Here is some casual reading that I am sure you will enjoy.... Estrous Cycle Learning Module The increased activity that we are seeing (second rut) must be the early does that got missed a month ago and the young ones just coming into heat. good luck to all the dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 I guess I been out of the Dairy business longer than I thought.('94)...lol..Im sure Ive forgotten alot more than that by now..You are correct about the 21 day cycle..I did have one of the highest pregnancy rates around with my herd, so i didnt miss many...I must have forgot, anyways, whitetails are 28 days not dairy cows....i still do not beleive the does are ready to cycle again at this time, but another week and we may see it starting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointing_dogs_rule Posted November 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 (edited) Mathews XT Man Congrats on your high preg rate. Most of my herds are 18 -22%. What was your herd's preg rate? You are correct in that whitetails are 28 days. With variances of first heat (+/- 7 days) and variances of individual reproductive cycles (+/- 2 days). That gives the 2nd rut a variance of 9 days in either direction for those "oddball females". Find the one doe in heat and you'll find the bucks. good luck to all the dog Edited November 27, 2011 by pointing_dogs_rule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 The increased activity that we are seeing (second rut) must be the early does that got missed a month ago and the young ones just coming into heat. yea i don't think we're into it much. on the couple properties i hunt that are relatively close together, i'm seeing more young ones just coming in. tail end of peek breeding right now.... here. i agree with the cattle in general being 21 and 28 days whitetails. cycles are a little more finicky with the heavy set beef cattle i'm use to. good luck to you too dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Seeing rutting signs picking back up here, could be latecomers to the primary rut since our peak rut is usually around the third week of November. Suppose those does that went early that missed may be coming back in now, but seems a little early. Saw a mature buck running along a thin strip of woods at 2:30 in the afternoon yesterday. Went back to a stand after I got home yesterday and watched 2 bucks(1.5 and 2.5 year old) push one doe across my field, bigger buck tried several times to chase the smaller one off, was kinda comical. Saw a couple does cutting fields in two different places this morning and a buck that looked like he was guarding a field edge along the way, all well after daylight. I will be out this afternoon covering our back field, but not with the bow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Ohio's gun season opened Nov 28th and I saw the biggest buck I've ever seen while hunting. Huge 10 pointer, and he was walking out in the open about 90 min after sunrise. It made me wonder if he was trying to seek out some hot does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Ohio's gun season opened Nov 28th and I saw the biggest buck I've ever seen while hunting. Huge 10 pointer, and he was walking out in the open about 90 min after sunrise. It made me wonder if he was trying to seek out some hot does. Or got shoved by someone and was looking for safe haven? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 coulda been the case too, but he seemed calm...that is until he heard me coming back from checking on my buddy's uncle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobucks Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Saw 4 small bucks chasing a doe this morning, hounding her pretty hard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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