SuperMn106 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 I am not trying to start a big arguement or anything just want to know everyones opinion on Rick Santorum. The more that I watch the debates and learn about where he stands the more I am starting to like him. I am not sure if has the following to win but we will see. I think the more Mitt and Newt play the personal attack it will help him gain ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Santorum fits Biblical beliefs more closely then any of them..unfortunately money buys the votes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bug House Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Santorum fits Biblical beliefs more closely then any of them..unfortunately money buys the votes And since America is a secular nation, he is not a good fit for president. Santorum wouldn't know what Conservatism is if it bit him on the nose. Vote for Ron Paul, he'll allow the States to legislate any twisted sense of morality the voters want, including the blatant homophobia, ignorance of scientific facts, and big government support that Rick Santorum exhibits. As the parent of young child with a chronic, incurable, potentially fatal disease, I sympathize with his daughters plight. I wish him and his family the best. However, I can't help but see irony in the fact that the very "Big Government meddling" & the "Morality Police" he wants to impose, very well may have made it illegal for him to have a baby with his high-risk 48 year old wife. Rick Santorum has no interest in Liberty, he's only concerned with inflicting his personal beliefs on everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) America happened to be established as a Christian Nation... Oh, wait..didnt that Usurper we have sitting in the Oval office claim we are a Muslim nation?? but yes, thanks to Patriotic folks like yourself this country is becoming a secular nation..I agree..you will reap what you sow, more than you sow, and later than you sow..and when Christ returns were (born again believers) are outta here.. we already know how that turns out.. Edited January 29, 2012 by Mathews XT Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bug House Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 America happened to be established as a Christian Nation..... Never was, never will be. Oh, wait..didnt that Usurper we have sitting in the Oval office claim we are a Muslim nation?? Nope, but I suppose you'll never let the facts stand in the way of a good conspiracy theory. ....but yes, thanks to Patriotic folks like yourself this country is becoming a secular nation... So you admit that Freedom and Liberty are not your priority for our country? ......you will reap what you sow, more than you sow, and later than you sow..and when Christ returns were (born again believers) are outta here.. we already know how that turns out.. As an American you have every right to believe stuff like this, you don't however, have the right to Federally legislate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 I dont have to legislate it..it's Gods plan he wrote it...be careful or I'll have Christina debate you again..lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 I am not a history teacher, but history is what it is and from all the books I have read and studied history shows this country was founded on Christian principles by our founding fathers who clearly felt that freedom of religion should not be infringed upon. That said, lets keep on topic here and the topic is on opinions on Rick Santorum and the nominees of this upcoming election and not a debate on Christianity and the history of this country. Rick Santorum in my opinion at this point has very little chance to win the nomination. Ron Paul also has no chance to win the GOP nomination, that leaves Newt and Mitt. While he has no chance to win I think a genuine concern for those who want to see Obama out, is that Ron Paul will pick up votes in November either as a write in or as a 3rd party. Far as my opinion on Santorum, from all I know about him he seems ok, I don't like or dislike him any less than I do Newt Gingrich, but I like him alot more than I do Obama or Romney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bug House Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 I dont have to legislate it..it's Gods plan he wrote it...be careful or I'll have Christina debate you again..lol LOL! What debate!? That was me presenting my side of the argument.....and then repeated snarky comments and her pointing out my grammatical errors. lol! But I suppose it's fair to call that 'par for the course' for a teenaged girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 I like antorum. He's the ONLY true conservative in the race. Don't think he's got the money to run it the whole way, though, and that's a darned shame. Ya gotta love the Paulies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointing_dogs_rule Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I voted for him in the Iowa caucases: 1. Create energy security and independence for the U.S. to strengthen our national security and decrease reliance on unreliable and adversarial nations. Bet that we would have the Keystone pipeline approved. 2. cut spending by $5 trillion over 5 years, repeal ObamaCare and other onerous regulations and cut non-defense spending to 2008 levels. 3. a balanced budget amendment. 4. eliminate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. 5. lower personal income and corporate tax rates and dramatically simplify the tax code for families, workers and businesses. To promote marriage, families and the high calling of parenting, I will triple the child deduction and eliminate all marriage tax penalties. 6. support Medicare reforms, which include private-sector innovation, competition and consumer choice. 7. Secure the border first, and then tackle other aspects of immigration reforms to solve an urgent national security challenge and gain credibility with the American people first. 8. Pro-Life. 9. committed to nominating to federal judgeships only very qualified and ethical individuals who, at a minimum, possess a clear record in support of the following key constitutional principles: 10. Education is the responsibility of parents, local schools (public and private), and states in that order. 11. opposed frivolous lawsuits against the gun industry by supporting legislation (The Protection of Lawful Commerce Act) that would protect law abiding firearms manufacturers and dealers from frivolous lawsuits attempting to hold them liable for criminal acts of third parties. 12. repeal ObamaCare and its burdensome job-destroying bureaucracy, taxes, mandates, and heavy-handed government decision-making… and replace it with market-driven, patient-centered alternatives to increasing health care access and affordability. Health Savings Accounts coupled with high deductible insurance plans. Reduce costs through competition. Purchase health insurance across state lines. Enact meaningful medical liability reform. 13. Cut and simplify personal income taxes by cutting the number of tax rates to just two - 10% and 28% and return to Reagan era pro-growth tax rate. Here is the website for more info and it has the best of all the pages: Made In America | Rick Santorum for President good luck to all the dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMn106 Posted January 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Thanks the dog, That is why I like him. I do not see any of the "big government" in him that the bug house was talking about. I believe he is the kinda guy we need but unfortuneatly I do not think he has the money or the big name. He did win Iowa so that could help. I think he would benefit from more debates and national exposure to get his name beliefs out there. I think the National media is concentrating on Newt and Romney becuase it makes it harder to get his side out there and I think they are afraid of a "true" conservative. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I dont think Santorum will have a chance..sadly, but the Lord is is control and we will get whom he wants to put in power though we may not understand it. John Adams said the U.S. Constitution would govern only a “moral and religious” people and would be worthless with any other kind of people. George Washington said the USA could never hope to be a happy nation unless the people imitated the behavior of Christ, the Savior. First Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court John Jay said that this Christian nation ought to elect Christians as its leaders. Samuel Adams (founder of the original Boston Tea Party) said the right to freedom is the gift of God almighty ... an attempt to cut ourselves off from God puts our “rights” in jeopardy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Santorum seems to be the best pick, but I agree, he doesn't seem to have enough steam to make it all the way. Looks like it will come down to picking the lesser of two evils again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m gardner Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 I don't believe that any of them know what to do with the mess things are in. That's why they have had to resort to character assasination. No matter who gets elected it's still going to be a mess. No one really has a plan. Ludwig von Mises said that an economic system based on the rapid expansion of credit would eventually crash. If there was a way to fix this it would've been done by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointing_dogs_rule Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 @m gardner: How about we "live within our means" as a solution, therefore no rapid expansion of credit. just my thoughts. good luck to all the dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 When the U.S, dropped the gold standard, our economy started going south back then..since that time the Feds answer has been print more money..borrow to keep afloat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m gardner Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 @m gardner: How about we "live within our means" as a solution, therefore no rapid expansion of credit. just my thoughts. good luck to all the dog Good idea, but I don't believe it's going to happen voluntarily. The GNP still includes everything bought on credit as wealth. When the government begins to report real numbers for unemployment and wealth creation then people may sober up and take notice. We can only pray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Rick Santorum in my opinion at this point has very little chance to win the nomination. Ron Paul also has no chance to win the GOP nomination, that leaves Newt and Mitt. While he has no chance to win I think a genuine concern for those who want to see Obama out, is that Ron Paul will pick up votes in November either as a write in or as a 3rd party. Far as my opinion on Santorum, from all I know about him he seems ok, I don't like or dislike him any less than I do Newt Gingrich, but I like him alot more than I do Obama or Romney. OK, so I may be wrong. lol. If Gingrich were to get out, which does not look likely to happen anytime soon, I think Santorum would have a pretty good chance at contending with Romney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 he has started picking up momentum..we will see Im afraid mit & newt are no better than what we got right now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMn106 Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 he has started picking up momentum..we will see Im afraid mit & newt are no better than what we got right now.. Hopefully he can keep it going. With all of the attention he is getting, he is getting the message out that mit and newt are like Obama. I think he is the only one who articulates where he stands on every position and doesnt back away from questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Just reading up on him and so far his views line up with mine. I'm going to support him regardless of what the rest of America does or thinks. I applaud him for taking a stand for Christian principles in a time where imorality, extreme feminism, and political correctness are detroying the basic building block of our nation - the family (husband, wife, and their children). Rick Santorum gets glitter bombed - YouTube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrown Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Mr. Santorum has my vote. I can say, that I'm glad to be from Oklahoma, Obama didn't carry 1 county in the whole state! Another point, I don't believe America was founded on Christianity, but I DO believe the morals and priniciples of Christianity has developed the USA into what we are today! If anyone disagrees, go enlist, deploy, then come back and tell me that the muslim nations know how to govern themselves! We may not be founded on Christian beliefs, but we sure in the heck wouldn't be here if it was not for them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bug House Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Well....as MatthewsXTMan said, Money buys the votes. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/09/us/politics/foster-friess-a-deep-pocketed-santorum-super-pac-backer.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Santorum is also "Pro Israel", and has stated it in his comments..Ron Paul has a staunch anti israel stance, Mitt is not saying much at all, Newt understands it, but he isnt saying much either. The Bible says God will bless those who support Israel..up until the last election this country has done that..the current Usurper has been the most ANTI Israel enemy in U.S. history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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