Team Realtree Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Tony Hansen just posted an interesting Brow Tines & Backstrap blog on the subject of whitetail hunting in Wisconsin. It's pretty interesting and Tony is looking for some folks to comment and give their thoughts. Be sure to check out the links within the copy for more details: Dr. James Kroll's report on the state of Wisconsin deer management has caused a stir. | Realtree ® Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 that was a good read and listen. personally, i believe kroll and, like him, suspect dirty politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 i'll have to check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetailfreak55 Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Real interesting read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 I think getting Kroll in here cant hurt..maybe the DNR will listen to him..they (DNR) sure dont care what the public tells them..bringing in the Wolf was the worst thing to our deer herd..mismanagement of the bear population is another (underharvest) the CWD fraud they are trying to feed us is B.S. and I still think the insurance Co. have something to do with the erradication of the doe herd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 that was a good read and listen. personally, i believe kroll and, like him, suspect dirty politics. Same here...didn't bother reading Kroll's whole report though. Too lengthy but he's probably the most knowledgeable person around when it comes to whitetail. I think getting Kroll in here cant hurt..maybe the DNR will listen to him..they (DNR) sure dont care what the public tells them..bringing in the Wolf was the worst thing to our deer herd..mismanagement of the bear population is another (underharvest) the CWD fraud they are trying to feed us is B.S. and I still think the insurance Co. have something to do with the erradication of the doe herd Wouldn't surprise me to hear the insurance cos. have their ear. I know they do in some other states. Could be worse though Martin...here the politicians control and make the game laws and sometimes will listen to the biologist at the Wildlife and Fisheries Dept. There's sure been times when the politicians passed laws for their own self interest too. If not for a loophole the Head of our Wildlife Dept. found a few years ago, we wouldn't be bowhunting anymore whenever a firearm season was open. Looooooong story! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 I read as much as I could stand to, posted a comment. Sounds like he was a victim of a hatchet job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 i haven't read everything but it seems that something isn't quite right. things seem definitely twisted and muddied up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 i have problems with the blogs, also. a 1" buck can be counted as a doe. but he says if folks shoot a 1" buck under the new law, they will be kicked aside. while he's right sometimes, i think he kicked 95% of us in the groin with that statement. i, for one, am more ethical than that. if i shot a little buck, that's my buck. i think most hunters feel the same. i've always said that the hunter needs to see what he's shooting before it's dead. i made a mistake once and got a medium 5 x 5 buck. the one lying 50 yards from a 37 point 38" wide buck, the one i saw 3 hours earlier and stalked on. i had 5 minutes to shoot it, rilda was 2 miles away with a tag, yet i knew if i broke the law i'd look at that buck on the wall and feel bad the rest of my life. he walked over a hill 700 yards away and 2 local attorneys, drunk at 9am and sitting in their truck illegally hunting my land, shot it. they paid me $1,000. kill fee and the rancher his $1,000., but that's not the point. the point is look at what you shoot and live with it. i resented overall the bloggers personal attacks on the men trying to help the wildlife. but they did bring up some good points, like the record book and a few others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotashRLS Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 More liberal media. More pro/anti union crap. Reading some of the replies was a waste of time. As far as privatizing and selling public lands, he (Kroll) would get escorted out of Wisconsin on his butt. While the deer numbers on public lands is at the core of our problem here, selling the land is not a good answer. Just like the stories from the 50s and 60s where hunters went "up north" to hunt deer because there were no deer south of the big woods, today the majority of the deer are on ag land and fewer are on public, big woods lands. Deer are dispersed in reverse compared to 50 years ago. The problem is that we now have 600-700K hunters needing a place to hunt. It is a difficult equation to figure out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gzilla45 Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 From everything I can tell he was hired to be an adviser. That certainly doesn't mean we are going to do everything he says. Hunting big tracts of public ground up north has been part of the culture for far too long and it would be political suicide to mess with it. I think it is funny how much of this came out in the few weeks before the recall election. I got at least 3 pamphlets in the mail talking about how Walker wants to change hunting in our state. I don't know anything about the guy but he seems to be well liked in the industry. Was he worth the money we spent on it? I don't know. I'm sure there are whitetail "minds" like his in the state that we could have used but that is water under the bridge at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruttinbuc Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Seems everything here is related to the recall of the governor. Dr. Kroll by all accounts is a well respected deer biologist among his peers. This writer is wrong for the half truths and misinformation in the article to incite an unnecessary argument. Facts speak for themselves and whatever needs to be done for both the resource and the participants using it should be. The last thing needed is a bunch of brainwashed hotheads running amuck on the issue. I'd hate to see this turn into the Pennsylvania fiasco all over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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