Guest Squirrelbuster Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 These are the reasons why NY should not limit youth hunting. Read this article: http://www.ussportsmen.org/interactive/features/Read.cfm?ID=1482 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSGB Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Re: NY Age Limit?!?!? [ QUOTE ] “By making the opportunity to hunt so difficult, we’re taking potential hunters out of the game and by the time they can legally hunt, they’re interested in other activities,” said Doug Painter, NSSF president. [/ QUOTE ] That says it all right there. Start 'em young, before it's too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Re: NY Age Limit?!?!? NY State is the ONLY state in the nation that does not allow kids under 16 to shoot a deer with a gun. I blame the NYC Legislators who don't have a clue. However I forsee change coming soon because the DEC predicts their will not be enough hunters to fill their quota by 2008. Ranger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYBUCK Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Re: NY Age Limit?!?!? [ QUOTE ] NY State is the ONLY state in the nation that does not allow kids under 16 to shoot a deer with a gun. I blame the NYC Legislators who don't have a clue. However I forsee change coming soon because the DEC predicts their will not be enough hunters to fill their quota by 2008. Ranger [/ QUOTE ] This is the whole problem, if the change has to be made, it has to come from the Legislature. Do you actually see "our" representitives changing this law. I am not very optimistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Re: NY Age Limit?!?!? [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] NY State is the ONLY state in the nation that does not allow kids under 16 to shoot a deer with a gun. I blame the NYC Legislators who don't have a clue. However I forsee change coming soon because the DEC predicts their will not be enough hunters to fill their quota by 2008. Ranger [/ QUOTE ] Do you actually see "our" representitives changing this law. I am not very optimistic. [/ QUOTE ] NOPE! Only pressure from our DEC or our democrat (oops did I say that ) Governor will make the change. And if Spitzer become Gov. you can probably forget for years to come. Ranger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedicast Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Re: NY Age Limit?!?!? That is crazy! 16 is way to late to be bringing a kid into deer hunting. I'll bet thet 99% of you here were deer hunting before 16. I know I'm in the minority. I started on my own when I was 21. I wish i had someone introduce me to hunting at the age of 12. This is definately a huge mistake! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DaHunter Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 Re: NY Age Limit?!?!? Yea your telling me 16 is too late, i am 19 now it was a reliefe too finally hunt. No reason it cant be atleast 14 or younger. Alltho i know alot of the locals who start there kids out anyways...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshM Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 Re: NY Age Limit?!?!? the younger the better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 Re: NY Age Limit?!?!? I really don't understand why there is any limit on age. What is the purpose of that restriction? As long as an adult is with them, what is the big deal about the child's age? Now when it comes to establishing a minimum age for a child to hunt on their own, that is a different argument, but when accompanied by an adult (preferably a parent), I really don't see what the issue is. Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horst Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 Re: NY Age Limit?!?!? 16 yrs old, thats crazy.Here kids can take thier hunters safety course, get thier own license, and hunt by themselves when their 12 if the parent allows them to. [ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] My kids 9 and bagged his first deer this year, honestly if he would have waited 7 more years I dont know if he would have even been interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedicast Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 Re: NY Age Limit?!?!? [ QUOTE ] My kids 9 and bagged his first deer this year, honestly if he would have waited 7 more years I dont know if he would have even been interested [/ QUOTE ] I agree 100%. At 16 kids have so much going on in their worlds that it would be hard to plant the deer hunting seed then. That law is gonna have a drastic effect on the number of hunters down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 Re: NY Age Limit?!?!? [ QUOTE ] No age restriction in Texas!!! [/ QUOTE ] As the man said in a song, "God Bless Texas!" Ranger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY911Bowhunter Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 Re: NY Age Limit?!?!? This is a point that DEC made clear in their statewide meetings. They have been pushing for a lowered age limit for several years now. As mentioned, it is in the hands of pur politicians - and here in NY, the mere mention of a "kid with a gun", brings up all sorts of images - none of which look anything like the great pics already posted here ! A massive letter writing, phone call making campaign is called here! We gotta do something to get these kids while they are still young! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Re: NY Age Limit?!?!? No age limit here in Tennessee, but they do have to have an adult with them up until a certain age, thinking that is 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossman Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Re: NY Age Limit?!?!? [ QUOTE ] NY State is the ONLY state in the nation that does not allow kids under 16 to shoot a deer with a gun. I blame the NYC Legislators who don't have a clue. However I forsee change coming soon because the DEC predicts their will not be enough hunters to fill their quota by 2008. Ranger [/ QUOTE ] thats because they are a bunch of liberall morons!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeygirl Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Re: NY Age Limit?!?!? In my opinion, I don't think kids should be allowed to handle guns under age 16 just because too many people are shooting other people over little arguments andstuff like that. Unless their parents are going to be around whenever that kid has a gun, I don't think it is a good idea. In my area there are way too many youth that if allowed to have a gun at 12, would be more likely to mishandle the use of a fun. Start a kid out young by taken the kid with you on a hunt or teach him about the outdoors but wait on the gun shooting stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Re: NY Age Limit?!?!? [ QUOTE ] In my opinion, I don't think kids should be allowed to handle guns under age 16 just because too many people are shooting other people over little arguments andstuff like that. [/ QUOTE ] OH COME ON!!!!! NO KIDS UNDER 16 MAY NOT HANDLE A GUN EVER!!!! GET REAL!!!!!!!!!!! I have a feeling you know very little about our gun laws in NY. Presently any youth under 16 cannot carry a gun without adult supervision. Just because you have gang bangers carrying guns or popping away in your neighborhood has absolutely nothing do with this discussion. In fact it is against the law. If you see kids with guns call the police don't punish the rest of us who work hard to bring our kids up right. To say in public that my 12 year old son or daughter, or any youth for that matter, cannot shoot a deer or rabbit till they are 16 is exactly the verbal diarrhea that any anti-hunter wants to hear. States like Texas have PROVEN that a minimum age requirement is foolish. Did you even take the time to read the article that Squirrelbuster posted at the beginning? It may be your opinion but next time have facts to back up this garbage! Ranger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWiggely Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Re: NY Age Limit?!?!? [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] In my opinion, I don't think kids should be allowed to handle guns under age 16 just because too many people are shooting other people over little arguments andstuff like that. [/ QUOTE ] OH COME ON!!!!! NO KIDS UNDER 16 MAY NOT HANDLE A GUN EVER!!!! GET REAL!!!!!!!!!!! I have a feeling you know very little about our gun laws in NY. Ranger [/ QUOTE ] Relax ranger she is entitled to her opinion whether we aree with it or not. Wigs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossman Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Re: NY Age Limit?!?!? [ QUOTE ] In my opinion, I don't think kids should be allowed to handle guns under age 16 just because too many people are shooting other people over little arguments andstuff like that. Unless their parents are going to be around whenever that kid has a gun, I don't think it is a good idea. In my area there are way too many youth that if allowed to have a gun at 12, would be more likely to mishandle the use of a fun. Start a kid out young by taken the kid with you on a hunt or teach him about the outdoors but wait on the gun shooting stuff. [/ QUOTE ] As long as their is supervision, It would be great to get kids started earlier!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Re: NY Age Limit?!?!? OK Wigs I'll calm down. But the notion of no guns at all till 16 years old is nuts! Adk, as usual you are the philosopher LOL. And as usual I had to read your post 3 times to make sure I read it correctly. Much of it I agree with and I like your style when it comes to starting your boy in hunting. If things don't change it is probably how I will introduce my kids. However for someone to jump up and say no guns till 16 really gets my dander up. Some of the stuff she was saying is the same exact baloney that Hillary, Chucky, and Dan Rather spew all the time. You cannot compare supervised hunting to the violence that is taking place on our streets. Ranger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Re: NY Age Limit?!?!? Who said anything about 12 year olds without supervision?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWiggely Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Re: NY Age Limit?!?!? I agree too, I believe the kids should be able to hunt with their parents or supervised by an adult by the age 12. Only under supervision though. Wigs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWiggely Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Re: NY Age Limit?!?!? Of course we all know these crazy politicians like those mentioned above whine and cry about this topic without knowing all the facts. I think I will send Dave to their offices to set them straight. Wigs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horst Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Re: NY Age Limit?!?!? [ QUOTE ] Starting can happen at 12 now...as far as hunting is concerned. You can start your child out with a firearm at any age. Do I want the average 12 y/o old out hunting big game even with supervision? I'm not convinced that it is necessary. The question might be is it a want or a necessity? [/ QUOTE ] So what exactly is your average 12 old?I agree, you can start them out with a firearm at any age.My oldest boy started shooting a bb gun when he was 4.The next year he would tag along with me on short hunts and shoot rabbitts and squirrels with it.Hes been small game hunting for 4 years.When he was seven he started shooting my .22.Hes been shooting it for two years.Last year he started shooting my ML.He could shoot it very accurately.We made a deal, if he practiced and kept his grades up he could go deer hunting.He busted his butt in school and got mostly As and Bs.He shot more rounds through my Ml in the two months before season then Ive probably put through it since I bought it.He got his deer at 90 yrds with one shot, right through the shoulders.It had nothing to do with me wanting him to hunt big game, it had nothing to do with want or neccesity, he just loves the sport and enjoys every minute of it.He shoots more regularly than any adult I know and Ive never seen him handle a gun in an unsafe manner.I felt he was ready to try it. On the other hand Ive seen 16 yr olds I wouldnt trust with a watergun.I see no reason my kid or kids like him should have to wait to hunt because some arent mature enough to handle it.You brought up being a good parent, isnt part of parenting supposed to be knowing when your kids ready to do certian things?So why should it be up to the state to decide that for you.All the other distractions kids have is beside the point, you can only shoot so many rabbitts and squirrels before you become bored with it.I stand by my opinion, 16 yrs old is way past the point where a lotta kids are gonna show an interest in hunting, and were losing enough young hunters the way it is without the state telling people thier kids arent responsible enough to handle a gun, that should be the parents decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Squirrelbuster Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Re: NY Age Limit?!?!? Hey, ADKhunter, although it would be nice to have the kids be able to hunt big game when they want, I don't think that is what everyone is saying. I think that everyone is saying they should be able to hunt ANYTHING that is legal at any age. This means small game too. I don't think anyone was just implying big game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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