redkneck Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Got a few left over from last year, picked up some Muzzy MX-3's as my reliable standby. Looking at new fixed heads though, who's shooting these: Buy The Ramcat Broadhead - The Ramcat is the next step in broadhead evoluton. Or these? STEELFORCE BROADHEADS PhatHead Series Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Sorry haven't tried them John but you're beginning to remind me of me 10 to 15 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted August 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) Hahaha! Is that good or bad? I've actually enjoyed trying new things last few years. If the old saying of "if it works why change?" Were all I lived by, I'd still be shooting a whitetail hunter bow lol I know you're a Montec man now, I kinda like the replaceable blades though. The phatheads got me interested after that AT BH testing thread, but the replaceable double edged blades on the ramcats are pretty cool too. Edited August 1, 2012 by redkneck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted August 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Results of the AT tests were summarized on a spreadsheet if anyone likes to look at that kind of junk, your montecs ended up pretty high on the list as well. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgJEvQwzfDRZdGxzdC15R0JIZDJGQ1J4bVpGV1pTWHc#gid=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobucks Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Results of the AT tests were summarized on a spreadsheet if anyone likes to look at that kind of junk, your montecs ended up pretty high on the list as well. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgJEvQwzfDRZdGxzdC15R0JIZDJGQ1J4bVpGV1pTWHc#gid=0 Soooo, why wouldn't you be trying the #1 ranked broadhead from that test instead of the #2 and #8 ranked? I picked up 2 packs of the VPA Vented heads last spring, before this test came out over at AT.com...can't wait to try 'em out. http://www.realtree.com/forums/bowhunting/108616-hey-g5-montec-fans.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Is that good or bad? Well...neither...not really a good or bad thing. Heck...friends of mine used to call me Mr. Gadget. Some still do. I used to love to experiment with new gadgets, goodies, & hunting toys. At one time I used to walk into my stands in the morning with a night vison device till a thief broke into our camp & stole it. I quit experimenting on broadheads though when an expandable cost me a deer (doe) I didn't recover till 3 days later. I've actually enjoyed trying new things last few years. I still do too but I'm not as loose with spending my $ on gadgets like I used to be. If it's something that I believe will make me a better hunter or more comfortable in a stand, thus making me sit longer I'm game to try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted August 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Results of the AT tests were summarized on a spreadsheet if anyone likes to look at that kind of junk, your montecs ended up pretty high on the list as well. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgJEvQwzfDRZdGxzdC15R0JIZDJGQ1J4bVpGV1pTWHc#gid=0 Soooo, why wouldn't you be trying the #1 ranked broadhead from that test instead of the #2 and #8 ranked? I picked up 2 packs of the VPA Vented heads last spring, before this test came out over at AT.com...can't wait to try 'em out. http://www.realtree.com/forums/bowhunting/108616-hey-g5-montec-fans.html Cuz I like underdogs. Seriously I read a lot of the countless pages and found it interesting. Regardless of what the anecdotal scores were, it did make me look at several new companies. Ramcats also cut when pulled out, the matrix didn't account for that. Cost is also a factor as well as blade replacements, Mech vs non-mech etc. Plus I'm just weird about stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhunter Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Still trying new broadheads. Cliff notes version there. Biggest eye opener is the penetration. For all those mechanical fans see how you penetration was compared to a fixed blade. Now that was just a simulated rib cage hit, imagine a shoulder with those mechanicals over time. Basically gut shooters should use a mechanical and shoulder shooters should shoot fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow32 Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Those Ramcats look pretty cool. But I really like the fixed blades myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted August 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 They are fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine Hntr Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 I've been shooting the trophy taker shuttle t locks for a few years now and the reviews talked about are the reason I bought them.. Very quiet, fly as good as a field point. Glad to see them up on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 Were you at one time looking at the NAP Killzone? This week on Archers Choice Ralph shoots a doe with one and it left a massive blood trail. It looked like someone dumped a bucket of blood. If your search now includes fixed blade broadheads then you really need to look at Slick Tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhine16 Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 Still trying new broadheads. Have you seen the thread with the Grave Digger broad head over on the bull, John? Pretty cool lookin head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted August 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 Yeah, I just read that. I like the way they open, but think I'm going to stick with fixed blades this year. Still got a NAP bloodrunner left over I'll prob put in a doe. I'll probably get either slicktricks, phatheads, or ramcats. Al I wouldn't quite say I'm a "gadget" person, per se, just trying some different things out, not saying there's anything wrong with my old stuff, but its a matter of personal preference I suppose with so many companies making superb quality broadheads. I've never lost a deer (to my knowledge) due to a broadhead, always blamed other things when I failed to connect or didnt recover it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 i haven't used either.... i've got enough Rage heads and crap to last me a while. they seem to work though in my experiences. not sure what i'd switch to after them if at all... maybe go right back to muzzy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 Al I wouldn't quite say I'm a "gadget" person, per se, just trying some different things out, not saying there's anything wrong with my old stuff, but its a matter of personal preference I suppose with so many companies making superb quality broadheads. I've never lost a deer (to my knowledge) due to a broadhead, always blamed other things when I failed to connect or didnt recover it. There was no question that particualr expandable had poor penetration based on the recovery I mentioned 3 days later. I'll admit expandables have come a long way since then but I'm very reluctant to use one anymore while bowhunting big game animals. Were you at one time looking at the NAP Killzone? This week on Archers Choice Ralph shoots a doe with one and it left a massive blood trail. It looked like someone dumped a bucket of blood. Ranger...missed seeing that show but really a lot has to do with the shot placement. As you can see here, this was a blood trail Ray Charles could have followed on the Kudu I shot last year with a 125 gr. Montec. It's obvious it was a complete pass through at 34 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted August 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 Yep, I like them tracking jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 ....but really a lot has to do with the shot placement..... shoot them where you're supposed to, not too high, and they'll usually bleed a lot. last buck i've shot with a mechanical left a ridiculous blood trail. i remember that picture too. that was a good one. Yep, I like them tracking jobs. yup me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted August 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 One thing I've learned is to watch them I until your sure they are dead. Shot one a little low with a rage 3 years ago and she piled up 20 yards away. Went to get her but she lifted her head up. Backed out, came back in 30 min and she was gone. Same thing happened to my buddy last year. Hammered a doe with a G5 T3 and she staggered and fell, staggered and fell. Blood trail was incredible. But she staggered out of sight. Backed out and called me to help drag. We never did find that deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjam5 Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Guess I'm lucky. I have only shot expandibles out of my Mathews and have only good things to say about the ones I have used. I started with NAP Shockwaves. I have seen them bury right through shoulder blades and bone with good results. I got away from those because they require a "o"ring. I shoot NAP Spitfires now. Dart like accuracy. If you do you part and put the arrow where it belongs...you can kill with a napped stone broadhead. Like man has done for 1000's of years. When it comes to my Recurve... 125gr.Magnus Stingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Keep in mind Adjam...expandables have come a long way since my last bad experience with them the only season I tried one when they 1st started hitting the market. What's kept me from EVER trying them again is they consistently fall short in penetration compared to fixed on all test. The positive side is their consistency to group like fieldpoints. I'm simply a bowhunter that wants to get as close to the best of both worlds as I can get. The conclusions I've drawn from this discussion so far is...whatever broadhead each of us has confidence in is what we like. BTW...if I was going to experiment with a new broadhead, it would be the Phathead. Imagine that!!! :DMight have to buy a pack just to see how they group compared to my Montecs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 I shoot NAP Spitfires now. Dart like accuracy. If you do you part and put the arrow where it belongs...you can kill with a napped stone broadhead. Like man has done for 1000's of years. The Rage 2-blades I owned have scared me from using expandables for a long while. If I ever get the itch to use expandables again, it'll be Spitfires. I have NAP Gobbler Getters which are a modified Spitfire's for turkeys and I am absolutely in love with them for killing the birds. For now I'm hooked on Tricks for life after the penetration I got last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 Broadheads shoulder the blame for a lot of bowhunter mistakes unjustly. I'm not to saying there aren't some crappy heads of both mechanical and fixed variety out there, because I'm sure there are. Bad shot placement, low FOC, underspined arrows, a poorly tuned bow, too light an arrow with not enough momentum are all things that can cause poor performance that the broadhead type has little to do with. I know a guy that has had great success with Ramcats in Africa but I also know he has the above issues covered as well. The 125grn Slicktrick Standards really perform for me in my set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted August 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Got a pack of ramcats today at bps, will have to see how they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 What's kept me from EVER trying them again is they consistently fall short in penetration compared to fixed on all test. Couple that with the fact that most everyone is shooting lightweight carbon shafts and you've doubled your chances for poor penetration. I shoot Steelforce 100's (cut on impact) and they penetrate like NUTZ !!!!!!! But not a year goes by that I don't half wish I was shooting XX-78 2315's again instead of carbons. They drove through WHATEVER got in front of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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