clrj3514 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Anybody on the forums trying to complete this slam? Also what is your opinion on the concept & the show? I really enjoy the show personally but I don't think all that traveling to hunt is realistic for a lot of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 I think it's dorky..not going to go running around the country looking for all the subspecies just to say I did it..who cares?.. next thing they will come up with is shooting a buck with every calibur gun out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zizzer59 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Whitetail SLAM? What's a slam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow32 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Whitetail SLAM? I don't think it would be bad I think it's be fun. Would also like to shoot every type I turkey. Maybe one day lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhunter Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Whitetail SLAM? I'm with XT. I don't like it. There's no challenge in subspecies other than money. Now if you take a B&C of each then we are talking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clrj3514 Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 I think it's dorky..not going to go running around the country looking for all the subspecies just to say I did it..who cares?.. next thing they will come up with is shooting a buck with every calibur gun out there So you're telling me you wouldn't enjoy hunting whitetails all over the country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 This was posted about in here somewhere before not too terribly long back Chris. Myself, I really would be more interested in taking a wall worthy deer of each type of north American deer(mule, blacktail, coues). Some places have re-introduced species anyway and are not true to what they once were in that area, for example Tennessee deer are a mix of subspecies, not the virgina whitetail that was here before they were wiped out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrown Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 (edited) I think it'd be cool, as long as their P&Y. I get a kick out of people who just hunt whitetails on private land. Try public land, and get a trophy quality animal! Not to mention each species you hunt, you have to hunt different! I guess not too many hunters get out of their "Comfort Zone". I've been hitting elk, I hope to eventually get mule deer, caribou, and hopefully moose! DIY! Edited October 25, 2012 by abrown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clrj3514 Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 I'm with XT. I don't like it. There's no challenge in subspecies other than money. Now if you take a B&C of each then we are talking. I think it'd be cool, as long as their P&Y. I get a kick out of people who just hunt whitetails on private land. Try public land, and get a trophy quality animal! Not to mention each species you hunt, you have to hunt different! I guess not too many hunters get out of their "Comfort Zone". I've been hitting elk, I hope to eventually get mule deer, caribou, and hopefully moose! DIY! See, not everyone cares about score. The trophy IMO is in the eye of whoever takes the animal. If somebody's happy with a 50" buck or a 200" buck what does it matter? Where I hunt I may have a chance at a P&Y buck one day but B&C is not very realistic. The appeal of the SLAM to me would be enjoying hunting all over the country for whitetails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 I think it's dorky..not going to go running around the country looking for all the subspecies just to say I did it..who cares?.. next thing they will come up with is shooting a buck with every calibur gun out there DITTO!!! If I'm going to run around the country like that, I'm going to whatever places hold the biggest bucks in good numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 So you're telling me you wouldn't enjoy hunting whitetails all over the country? Not that way, dont get me wrong here..ive been to Montana and shot a whitetail and mulie, but Im not going to go for a "slam...just makes no sense to me...the show is driven by money imo..I understand the challenge..but i'd rather stay home and hunt a particular buck that Ive seen here, to me thats more of a challenge....plus I do not have time to run all over the country You want to go do it..knock yourself out..and good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 yea i would more for the experience to hunt in different country. whether i kill a whitetail in Washington or in Ohio it's still a whitetail to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhunter Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 See, not everyone cares about score. The trophy IMO is in the eye of whoever takes the animal. If somebody's happy with a 50" buck or a 200" buck what does it matter? Where I hunt I may have a chance at a P&Y buck one day but B&C is not very realistic. The appeal of the SLAM to me would be enjoying hunting all over the country for whitetails. There is absolutely no challenge in killing a 50 inch deer in different states and that's why it's silly. Is it really more challenging to kill a year old buck in North Carolina as compared to Indiana or Texas? Anybody with money can go to different states and kill deer with any weapon. The answer is no and that's why it's a gimmick like most hunting gadgets. The point pitched by the slam isn't about seeing the country. It's to get your name in some book or website. Like others said more power to you if you want to do it, but its a waste of time IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clrj3514 Posted October 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Not that way, dont get me wrong here..ive been to Montana and shot a whitetail and mulie, but Im not going to go for a "slam...just makes no sense to me...the show is driven by money imo..I understand the challenge..but i'd rather stay home and hunt a particular buck that Ive seen here, to me thats more of a challenge....plus I do not have time to run all over the country You want to go do it..knock yourself out..and good luck There is absolutely no challenge in killing a 50 inch deer in different states and that's why it's silly. Is it really more challenging to kill a year old buck in North Carolina as compared to Indiana or Texas? Anybody with money can go to different states and kill deer with any weapon. The answer is no and that's why it's a gimmick like most hunting gadgets. The point pitched by the slam isn't about seeing the country. It's to get your name in some book or website. Like others said more power to you if you want to do it, but its a waste of time IMO. I'm not saying I'm interested in completing it, I just think it's an interesting concept. Besides, you don't know how difficult it is to harvest a deer in a particular area until you try it. I understand how you guys like to hunt & I don't think less or more of you because of it so I don't see why you feel the need to knock someone else's style as long as it is legal & ethical. As far as it being a gimmick, call me naive but I enjoy looking at the purer side of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhunter Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Whitetail SLAM? Clr I'm not knocking you. I'm just responding to your questions on my posts. Your right I don't know exactly how hard it would be to kill all the subspecies but I'm willing to bet the only thing holding 90% of hunters back is money and time. The concept is neat but it has MAJOR flaws. It's pitching it more as a look what I did accomplishment instead of completing it for more personal reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 "It's to get your name in some book or website" Yup..Hoosier Im with you there..that is the major turnoff for me too with that show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 So you're telling me you wouldn't enjoy hunting whitetails all over the country? Sure...I have hunted either whitetails, mulies, or elk in a lot of states now...Home turf has been Louisiana & Mississippi...road trip hunts in Texas, Kansas, Iowa, Missouri, Illinois, Wyoming, New Mexico & Colorado. There's some parts of the country that have very small bodied whitetails that I consider to be cute little deer. I just have no desire to hit the road and spend my valuable time & $ to go hunt them. ...you don't know how difficult it is to harvest a deer in a particular area until you try it. No I don't...I can only say how difficult they are to hunt where I've hunted. From a turkey hunt I made in Vermont, I decided Vermont is probably the hardest state to bag a nice whitetail buck that I know of. 2nd to that is Mississippi. There really isn't any easy place to hunt deer but due to the aggressive nature of the bucks I've hunted in central Texas, I'd say your odds were better there than any other place I've hunted. No whitetails I've hunted respond to rattling like they do in Texas...fun stuff! BTW...I'm not knocking you either. To each his own but that sort of quest is not for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrown Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 LOL, it's not about the record book. Sure that sets a foundation, but the more I hunt, the more it's about killing a machure animal. 75% of the problem is people are too woried about just killing something. To say that 90% of whitetail hunters could kill a machure mulie, couse or blacktail is dumb. They can't, that's proven if you look at the success rate the wildlife departments put out! I buy ofc elk tags in CO, 20% success rate on bowhunting! Now, please inform me how you get 90%? I'm pretty sure that's with draw results too! The point is HOW you hunt them! Again, inform me how many of you guys have taken machure animals off public lands with a bow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clrj3514 Posted October 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 Clr I'm not knocking you. I'm just responding to your questions on my posts. Your right I don't know exactly how hard it would be to kill all the subspecies but I'm willing to bet the only thing holding 90% of hunters back is money and time. The concept is neat but it has MAJOR flaws. It's pitching it more as a look what I did accomplishment instead of completing it for more personal reasons. The only reason I said anything about you knocking someone's way of hunting is because you said, "There is absolutely no challenge in killing a 50 inch deer in different states and that's why it's silly." To me, that sounds like an insult to what other people may consider a successful, ethical hunt. As far as money & time goes, that was addressed in my original post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 i think that it's not as easy to walk into a place you've never been and kill even a small buck the first day with a bow. i'm talking DIY hunts not with an outfitter that does all the scouting for you. a week long hunting trip (time) makes it a bit easier. i still wouldn't go as far to say it's absolutely no challenge. I think P&Y is a reasonable goal. B&C is not. The problem with the whitetail slam is it's too subjective for enough people to fully except it. For example, is the eyes of the slam bucks in NY and VT are considered the same as where hoosier is. There's a big difference between deer in vermont and deer in Ill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clrj3514 Posted October 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 i think that it's not as easy to walk into a place you've never been and kill even a small buck the first day with a bow. i'm talking DIY hunts not with an outfitter that does all the scouting for you. a week long hunting trip (time) makes it a bit easier. i still wouldn't go as far to say it's absolutely no challenge. I think P&Y is a reasonable goal. B&C is not. The problem with the whitetail slam is it's too subjective for enough people to fully except it. For example, is the eyes of the slam bucks in NY and VT are considered the same as where hoosier is. There's a big difference between deer in vermont and deer in Ill. Exactly. I think it's flawed but a pretty neat concept at its core. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scbasshunter Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Whitetail SLAM? To me personally, I just enjoy being in a tree here in South Carolina. I get just as excited when a doe walks out as I do when I see a buck. If you have the time and money to do it, more power to you. As for me, as long as I can get out in the woods and hunt a deer, I'm happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhunter Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Whitetail SLAM? Abrown The 90% only contemplates a antlered buck and nothing about age bc the whitetail slam doesn't have any requirements based on antler size. I also believe a rifle is allowed and not just bow kills. So all you need is 4 antlered deer and you qualify. That's a joke IMO. As for mature deer that's exactly my point about needing a score requirement to qualify. CLR My 50 inch comment still stands. That's a 1.5 old deer. I've had literally 7 walk past me in the last two days of hunting and the same bucks multiple times. These animals still do not trust their nose and eyes like older deer. They can smell you and see you and still walk past you. They have not learned what being nocturnal means, they run any doe they find, you can call them in 10 times in a row, etc. No disrespect to a hunter who kills one. To each their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clrj3514 Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 CLR My 50 inch comment still stands. That's a 1.5 old deer. I've had literally 7 walk past me in the last two days of hunting and the same bucks multiple times. These animals still do not trust their nose and eyes like older deer. They can smell you and see you and still walk past you. They have not learned what being nocturnal means, they run any doe they find, you can call them in 10 times in a row, etc. No disrespect to a hunter who kills one. To each their own. I'm so glad you're so much better of a hunter than people who kill young deer. How can you say to each their own & bash someone killing a young deer in the same paragraph? I have no problem with you passing young deer nor am I going to praise you for it. Anyway, I'm just leaving this discussion alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhunter Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Whitetail SLAM? Clr At what point did I say I was better or worse than anyone? I made one statement which is 1.5 old deer are not hard to kill. For whatever reason you cannot come to terms with that, then you want to come at me like I shot your dog. Ill make this real easy on you. You tell me why killing a 1.5 year old buck should be considered a major accomplishment for most hunters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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