LETMGROW Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Check this site out: Big Buck Project | About If this doesn't get a few stirred up I don't know what will. This has all the potential of introducing disease into the free ranging herd from the so called deer farms. There is alot of controversy on the QDMA forum right now with me near the forefront calling the original poster out for being so ignorant as to support this project. I'm quite sure the poster is a deer farm operator but he hasn't actually admitted to it yet. We shall see. If you live in Alabama you should really get involved in fighting this. Thread is: General Discussion " Someone's catching on " Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Almost looks like a joke. Deer get that big because they are raised on a farm, this is not going to work. They are free to release them on my club! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETMGROW Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 I really don't think you want these deer on your property. Check out the stats. There are more and more documented cases of CWD being found in the wild caused by fenced in deer escaping and socializing with the free ranging herd. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhunter Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 This will make your skin crawl!! Interesting concept. The biggest issue is that about 75% of genetics come from the doe. Like it or not I'm sure this is already going on without people knowing. It's not the high profile people like these guys you have to worry about. It's the one off guys not testing the deer that will be the problem and it will end up coming back to haunt them. My biggest issue is that this distorts what a "free range" herd is supposed to be. It will diminish any big deer from that county IMO. Just like steroids in baseball. Guilt by association in this case. This is a great example of the chase for big antlers going too far. There's a reason big deer do not exist in some states and playing God isn't the correct answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 I don't think you can influence it that much. They will ultimately grow to the potential of their nutrition. Genetics are key, but there's not going to be a pile of 200" deer roaming the state of Alabama in a few years I don't care how many breeders there are released. Just an opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 pen raised deer get their butts handed to them when released into the wild. most don't survive for various reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 I don't think you can influence it that much. They will ultimately grow to the potential of their nutrition. Genetics are key, but there's not going to be a pile of 200" deer roaming the state of Alabama in a few years I don't care how many breeders there are released. Just an opinion. Would have to agree with John here. Pen raised deer also have optimal conditions(no stress, high protein diets) for growing their antlers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 the most benefit to a free range deer herd you get from introducing breeder deer like that into the herd isn't genetics. it'd take a decade at least to see the slightest increase in average antler size, along with lots of doe harvesting to weed out the current genetics. nutrition and stress is mutually excusive whether they're there or not. a deer herd with better age structure is the big benefit... not from the breeder bucks being older though. i think the breeders will give hunters in the area a big buck to chase after and will pass bucks they'd otherwise take in a heart beat. even a lazy or even proclaimed meat hunter would hold out for a slam breeder buck if they knew it was around. herd bucks would then live to see another season. that guy in the video was comparing buck sheds that were not in the same age class... i don't care what anyone says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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