stevebeilgard Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 and, i've said it all along. obama will lose this election in a LANDSLIDE! yep, the news media you've been watching has been lying to you all along. it's not tied. it's not close. you are about to witness the biggest loss since reagan beat carter in 1982. the lesson here? don't watch the news you've been watching. they have lied to you for years and years because they are socialists. pay attention. and yes, i know election is 4 days away and my head is on the chopping block. just normal for me. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbarcheryhunter Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 I agree with u. A lot of people who voted for him the last time are not saying who they r voting for this time but they know they made a mistake so they r not going to make it a second time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUDRUNNER Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 I would like to believe you, but still can't get over the amount of support for Obama. For some reason a lot of people still love this guy. Even in smaller rural communities he has a lot of support. It may just be my location being in Illinois with a strong union presence. I hope your right though. I put my vote in yesterday at the early voting poll, we'll what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Hope you are right Steve. Funny how wide the polls can vary, but yeah some are showing Romney will win handily while some are showing Obama with a slight edge. Historically elections so close this near the end the incumbent has not fared well. I believe Romney will win the popular vote by a fair margin, but the electoral vote will be very close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotashRLS Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 It turns my stomach to think about our future if Romney/Ryan does not win. It is disturbing that so many people are okay with being lambs to the slaughter. Worse yet, what if there is even only an ounce of truth to the future predictions by the "conspiracy theorists"? We may never get our country back and being a conservative criminalizes us. I am fearful for our future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 I hope your right Steve, man I hope your right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colorado bob Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Here's my opinion. It will be close but Obama will win both the popular vote & the electoral vote. The Dems will keep control of the senate & the Rep will control the house. Nothing will change. We'll see on Tuesday night. I just hope it's not a repeat of 2000. We need to know the results, We don't need another trip to the Supreme Court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 Either way..we are up the creek without a paddle..much damage has been done the last 4 years and going back to after Reagan was president. if obamma inherited Bush's mess then Clinton must have inherited Reagans economic boom and we will not have the "robo" calls after Tuesday!! Im sooo tired of the phone ringing and nobody answers when you pick up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSU_Seminole Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 and, i've said it all along. obama will lose this election in a LANDSLIDE! yep, the news media you've been watching has been lying to you all along. it's not tied. it's not close. you are about to witness the biggest loss since reagan beat carter in 1982. the lesson here? don't watch the news you've been watching. they have lied to you for years and years because they are socialists. pay attention. and yes, i know election is 4 days away and my head is on the chopping block. just normal for me. lol Steve while you're entitled to your opinion, Fox News, Hannity & Limbaugh are partisans. I suggest you do your home work and research several sources for your news. If you only watch Fox and listen to right wing radio you're handicapping yourself. Independent polls and studies have the race right now Sunday night Obama has 237 electoral votes locked up. Romney has 206 locked up. Of the 12 swing states, Obama won in 2008 Romney can not win without winning Ohio. He's got to flip Ohio first, then Florida, Virginia, NC then flip Wisconsin or Iowa & Colorado or Nevada. Romney has an uphill battle. Obama only has to win 3 states. Ohio, Iowa & Wisconsin & the race is over, it would put him at 271 electoral votes. He doesn't need, Virginia, NC or Florida if he wins Ohio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSU_Seminole Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 Another thing that is hurting Romney is 3rd party candidates. The media on the right and left have ignored this but its why you see Obama at 48% and Romney at 46% in several polls. Colorado has 17 people on the ballot running for president. Several states have several libertarians running & people who voted for Ron Paul will vote libertarian, Obama doesn't need 50% of the vote to win with so many people on the ballots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 Wishing your prediction was true right now Steve. Time to hunker down and wait out the next four years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted November 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 well, i'm not sure how i could have screwed up the prediction any better. when the polls came out with 47 to 48 percent, i assumed the remaining 6-8% were independents, and equally convinced that few independents would vote for obama. well, obama got more than his fair share and that did the trick. plus, i did not see an energized base for obama, but it sure was there. anyway, i was clearly wrong and now we'll live the next 4 years just seeing if the doomsday predictions come true. as an eternal optimist, i'm not very optimistic. but i am prepared for the downfall of the dollar and maybe even the country. within 4 years i see us as a bankrupt country just like france, spain, greece and the rest. i also think we'll see massive destruction and looting when the welfare checks quit coming. of course, i've been wrong before.... lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 I hurt for all of us today. Hopefully we can hunker down and make it through the next 4-years of damage. Knowing that my taxes are coming up $3,500 this year doesn’t help... Knowing that my employer will likely drop all insurance for love of Obamacare isn’t comforting either... This is not a great time to be in the middle class. God help us all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 I cant believe that we have so many people willing to give up on America and go to the Government for a handout for a way of life. I believe God has taken his hand off America and given the people what they wanted..You do what you need to do, as for me and my house ; We will serve the Lord...keep looking up, I beleive His return is eminate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Think we saw what happens when votes from some soldiers are not counted/allowed but illegals are given exceptions with which to stay in this country. No doubt Obama was able to sway hispanic voters in his favor with his policies. Real sad to see how things played out with this election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txsbuda Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Think we saw what happens when votes from some soldiers are not counted/allowed but illegals are given exceptions with which to stay in this country. No doubt Obama was able to sway hispanic voters in his favor with his policies. Real sad to see how things played out with this election. Funny how you said Obama was able to "sway" hispanic voters. How about the Republican party not able to reach out to the hispanics in general. With most being Catholic, the Repubs would sure do well with Right to Life issues. Unfortunately, the Repubs have done a poor job of embracing hispanics over the years. Yeah, they got Rubio and a few others, but that's miniscule to the number of hispanic politicians that represent the Democratic party. What it comes down to is trust and the candidate the Repubs put out there was not trustworthy by hispanics or women. Fix the party by welcoming hispanic voters and women and you will win 2016. Also, quit blaming Obama for the way things are turning out. I keep hearing about having to hunker down becaue the next four years will be worse. So do something about it. Work hard and make a difference. Be part of the solution, not the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bug House Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 This election proved one thing for sure, pandering to the radical religious right cost the GOP the election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 NO...America has walked away from God..and is getting what it deserves...given this administrations policies, you cant be a Christian if you voted Obamma..PERIOD...if you think you, are you need to do some deep soul serching Im afraid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WW179 Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 I'll be the first The problem was the candidate " Romney". He lost in 08 to the guy who lost to Obama. Why would anybody think this election would turn out different. If you look at Romney's policies they weren't a whole lot different than Obama's. A moderate republican can not win the White House. Maybe the GOP will learn to give us somebody to vote for, not somebody to vote against. Sorry ill get off my soap box now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 This election proved one thing for sure, pandering to the radical religious right cost the GOP the election. You really think Romney is the candidate of the "radical religious right"? Funny how you said Obama was able to "sway" hispanic voters. How about the Republican party not able to reach out to the hispanics in general. With most being Catholic, the Repubs would sure do well with Right to Life issues. Unfortunately, the Repubs have done a poor job of embracing hispanics over the years. Yeah, they got Rubio and a few others, but that's miniscule to the number of hispanic politicians that represent the Democratic party. What it comes down to is trust and the candidate the Repubs put out there was not trustworthy by hispanics or women. Fix the party by welcoming hispanic voters and women and you will win 2016. Also, quit blaming Obama for the way things are turning out. I keep hearing about having to hunker down becaue the next four years will be worse. So do something about it. Work hard and make a difference. Be part of the solution, not the problem. Obama does assume responsibility for his policies/actions and YES I will blame him for his failures. He is not my president, I voted against him and he lost my state. Obama has crammed legislation through that the majority of people in this country said they did not want and in the process has put yet more burden on the American working class. He has abused his power to go around congress when he knew he would never get passed. I do agree with some of what you say though. Clear that some republicans do not appeal to hispanic voters for obvious reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 ...given this administrations policies, you cant be a Christian if you voted Obamma..PERIOD...if you think you, are you need to do some deep soul serching Im afraid I believe you are walking on dangerous grounds there MXTM. No where in the Bible*does it give you permission to make such a claim. Is it hard to believe that a Christian would have voted for Obama? Yes, but I dont think it means they aren't Christian. I know a few God fearing people that voted for him. Again, hard to believe but even a Christian can be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bug House Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) You really think Romney is the candidate of the "radical religious right"? That's not what I said. I said the Republican Party panders to the religious right, and that cost the election. As it turns out, Gay marriage and abortion are not issues at all. Yet the "social conservatives" pushed and pushed on that platform and it turned the moderates and undecideds off. Unless we, as a political party, move beyond such inconsequential talking points, do not stand a chance. He is not my president, I voted against him and he lost my state. This raises a very good point, despite the fact that he is indeed your President as well as mine. We should view the US as 50 little countries bound by a loose governing federation. Edited November 21, 2012 by The Bug House Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 This raises a very good point, despite the fact that he is indeed your President as well as mine. We should view the US as 50 little countries bound by a loose governing federation. No sir, he is not my president and I do not support his liberal agenda and the direction he is taking this country. He is the president of Mickey mouse and Adolf Hitler and the millions of people who cast votes with absolutely no identification to prove they were who they said they were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bug House Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 (edited) Mickey & Adolf......eh? I see you've let the fog of emotion cloud your ability to see reason & logic. No one is stopping you from living your life as you want. Edited November 23, 2012 by The Bug House Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Mickey & Adolf......eh? I see you've let the fog of emotion cloud your ability to see reason & logic. No one is stopping you from living your life as you want. How so, because I can see reality? You think because I see reality that my reason and logic are somehow clouded? You don't believe there was any fraudulent voters/voting? There is absolutely nothing wrong with my reasoning Bug, if I were thin skinned I would probably be insulted by your comments, but rather they are laughable. Pretty easy to see things as they are and am not afraid to tell it how I see it, but I won't attack those who do not agree with my views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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