wtnhunt Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 Obamacare, thanks alot to the libs and Mr. Obama! Seeing our premiums to keep similar lousy coverage we currently have go up about $2600 a year next year, OR we can take a lower plan that costs a few bucks a month less, but has even more ridiculous copays and deductibles, which would be a serious gamble with 4 kids. When they said this "affordable" health care act was going to help out working class, I wonder who they really planned on helping, all it seems it has done is drive up prices for those of us who have to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotashRLS Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 How foolish of people to so trusting that "they" were going to help the middle class. Uniformed people are what our socialist government depend on. Like cattle to the slaughter. “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” ― Adolf Hitler “What good fortune for governments that the people do not think.” ― Adolf Hitler I actually saw this second quote after the election on our local Baptist Church billboard down the road from my parent's house. If we don't stand up for ourselves, who will? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 It's only going to help drive this country farther into the pits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUDRUNNER Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 I'm with you. My premiums have gone up $75-100 a month for the past 5 or so years. I pay about $8000 a year for health, dental, and vision for my family, and it's pretty crappy coverage. My boys broken arm cost us another $2800 out of pocket when it was all said and done. :bang: I'm not sure what we'll do if they go up again this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 My deductible went up to $3,000 out of pocket max last year. We were maxed out in June I think. This year, new plan, paying less and deductible is less, thank God. I hope we keep this plan for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted December 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 My deductible went up to $3,000 out of pocket max last year. We were maxed out in June I think. This year, new plan, paying less and deductible is less, thank God. I hope we keep this plan for a long time. Gonna guess you are not in the majority of people out there who have better rates and better coverage Chris. Dunno if your insurance is union influenced and if that has any bearing? We take this plan offered that costs around $5 less per month than the current and our deductible per person in network goes from $3000 to $5000 and that is a 70/30 plan. Out of pocket max was $3000 when our son was born and we came right to that on our part. Other plan to keep a $3000 ded is gonna run us $100 more every 2 weeks and is still a 70/30 plan. About 10-12 years ago we were paying around $5000 a year for a family plan and our coverage was 90/10 and had a $1000 deductible, those days are obviously long gone. Meanwhile while we are paying for insane premiums there are illegals not paying a dime who are getting care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bug House Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 My premiums and deductibles stayed just about the same for next year. I think my deductibles are high, but they've been that way for years, long before the Affordable Healthcare Act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 The massive company I work for told everyone last year, "Good news! No more co pays!" They sent a hired insurance guy in to discuss it with our office. People saw through the smoke and mirrors and tore that poor guy to shreds. At my office, if you have insurance, it went up about $35 - $50 a paycheck and the company no longer matches until you reach $2,00.00 for anything. Ergo, there are no co pays, you pay 100% until you hit $2,500.00 and then they match 60/40 on most things... literally most things. They also have preferred drug programs so if you’re not buying things on their list or using Drs or a Pharmacy that isn’t on the list whatever you spend does NOT go to the $2,500.00. Keep in mind my company does $34 billion a year. The rumor is now that they are going to drop insurance all together and pay the fine because its cheaper than supplying insurance at all..... ergo, thousands of employees will land on the Government ticket. That doesn’t surprise me. Our company President makes around $40m a year and is often seen in news reels with Obama.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotashRLS Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 The rumor is now that they are going to drop insurance all together and pay the fine because its cheaper than supplying insurance at all..... ergo, thousands of employees will land on the Government ticket. That doesn’t surprise me. Our company President makes around $40m a year and is often seen in news reels with Obama.... All part of the plan my friend, all part of the plan. They want as many people dependent on the government as possible so they can further their agendas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointing_dogs_rule Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 My company has just asked for a 15% rate increase... Obama lies!!!! good luck to all the dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
too_pointer Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 People voted Obama back in, so they better not *****, they knew what was coming. :hammer1: I have VA care and medicare, my wife has NOTHING :no: I don't know what I will do when this farce comes through. too_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Welcome to the Socialist America Obamma is pushing for....this is only the start of where we are heading...We are in a wooden row boat heading over Niagra falls folks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bug House Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Meanwhile while we are paying for insane premiums there are illegals not paying a dime who are getting care. Yup, thanks to EMTALA. Federal law since 1986. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted December 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 My premiums and deductibles stayed just about the same for next year. I think my deductibles are high, but they've been that way for years, long before the Affordable Healthcare Act. Ummm, yeah that is the point bug. The libs sold this idea to those who believed them that healthcare should be more affordable, I actually agree that healthcare should be more affordable, but did not believe for one second that Obama or the liberals would do anything to help out working class families. Rather than being more affordable we are seeing more dramatic increases in premiums now than in the past, which goes totally against what Obama told the American people. Why are we continuing to see increases in premiums with poorer and poorer coverage and who other than those already on gov't systems are benefitting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Gonna guess you are not in the majority of people out there who have better rates and better coverage Chris. Dunno if your insurance is union influenced and if that has any bearing? Yes, union influenced. We just got lucky and joined a larger consortium. More people pay into the account, so they can offer lower co-pays etc. Back about 5 or 6 years ago we paid about $125 for the family plan, $5 co pay for doctor visit, $5 co-pay for prescriptions, everything else was %100 covered, no deductible, no co-pay. So those golden days are gone forever I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bug House Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Ummm, yeah that is the point bug. The libs sold this idea to those who believed them that healthcare should be more affordable, I actually agree that healthcare should be more affordable, but did not believe for one second that Obama or the liberals would do anything to help out working class families. Rather than being more affordable we are seeing more dramatic increases in premiums now than in the past, which goes totally against what Obama told the American people. Why are we continuing to see increases in premiums with poorer and poorer coverage and who other than those already on gov't systems are benefitting? Oh, I agree with you here, I'm employed by a huge healthcare institution, my costs are an embarrassment to put it mildly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 this is just the start, my friends. it will double again within 2 years. also, plan to add $2500 in new taxes withheld starting with the 1st paycheck of 2013. and it will all be bushes fault. or the republicans. or anyone but obama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 we will all soon be in line for our daily government ration someone in business told me the other day for every dollar that is made he pays .45 in taxes.. WHY WORK?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 we will all soon be in line for our daily government ration someone in business told me the other day for every dollar that is made he pays .45 in taxes.. WHY WORK?? Because there's still .55 to make......and the last time I checked .55>0. I'm more of a glass half full kinda guy rather than the sky is falling glass half empty one. What's happening in our country is not good, I'll agree, but there seems to be a whole lot of folks overreacting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kat Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 I get 68% of my paycheck.....its all robbery in my books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Christmas is almost here and the company i work for is doing well. our insurance is fortunately better than many other plans. that said i payed some tax. figured it to be close to 39% taken out. if i can take care of my 61% without being in debt i expect that 39% be spent wisely without incurring any debt either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 I get 68% of my paycheck.....its all robbery in my books. You still pay taxes on the 68% you get... Go to a movie, go buy a gallon of gas or a pop at the store, loaf of bread, etc.. You're paying taxes on those things. Regardless, we as a nation are over taxed. It could all be solved if we could cut government spending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted December 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 It could all be solved if we could cut government spending. Better yet cut the freaking gov't. They are the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Better yet cut the freaking gov't. They are the problem. now, THERE'S the right answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Better yet cut the freaking gov't. They are the problem. now, THERE'S the right answer Here here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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