wtnhunt Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Got my hopes up when I drove by Tuesday and saw the sign. Way it seems to go I guess. We found out Tuesday the property behind us sold, we had no idea it was for sale and would not have known had it not been for the surveyors coming to the door Monday afternoon asking permission to gain access from our side. For years I had said if we could ever buy it we would, and we probably could have worked a deal out we could manage had we known sooner it was being sold. According to the realtor the deal is under contract but has not yet closed, but he said it is a done deal, no expectation it won't go through. He said if we had of called 2 weeks ago we would have had an opportunity on the section bordering our land. I was told the man who bought the place really did not want the property on our side of the river and joining ours due to access issues. Basically that property is split by a river and it joins ours at the old channel of the river, we do have access, I can get our 4 wheeler over there and with a little work could get it where I could get a tractor over there. Realtor said that they did not want the property on our side, roughly 80 or so acres of flood zone river bottom and they looked for someone to buy that section so they could split it and keep the other 60 or so. Supposedly they contacted or attempted to contact people who had property joining it but somehow missed us. Makes no sense since we have the longest border with that property that no one called us, we are in the phone book. Over the years we had some ongoing issues, hoping maybe this new owner with making his investment will make an effort to keep out poachers on his side. Realtor did not give me a name, but hopefully we can get some contact information for the new owner. Realtor tried to sell me a different 60 acre property newly listed that we hear a lot of shots from(supposedly another leased property) that is about 1/4 mile off our south line, problem with that one is that we don't have access from our property(basically landlocked) and would have to share the easement road with other property holders. Guess a bright side might be that new owners come in some of these surrounding and nearby properties and maybe we will see more deer left to walk and start seeing a little better age structure. Down side is that I know this real esate agency history, a 138 acre property up road from us they have had listed for years gets as many as 10 hunters on it, the deer hunting on that property was great at one time but not so great now. Know nothing about the legalities of real estate agencies allowing people to hunt or lease properties they have listed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Well the bright side is you know the probable new owner doesn't want the land on your side of the river. Should only be a short period of time before it's closed & you know who your new neighbor is. Then you can feel him out about flipping the 80 or so ac. on your side to you. The surprising thing to me is the owner selling the land and his real estate agent didn't make much of an effort to sell it before year end. Now his tax liablity will be higher. The deal on the last piece we bought in MO was contingent on closing before 12/31/12 for tax reasons. I was jumping through hoops to get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Well the bright side is you know the probable new owner doesn't want the land on your side of the river. Should only be a short period of time before it's closed & you know who your new neighbor is. Then you can feel him out about flipping the 80 or so ac. on your side to you. The surprising thing to me is the owner selling the land and his real estate agent didn't make much of an effort to sell it before year end. Now his tax liablity will be higher. The deal on the last piece we bought in MO was contingent on closing before 12/31/12 for tax reasons. I was jumping through hoops to get it done. just what i was thinking. you may have a non hunter who only wants 5-10 acres. call the realtor who sold it, and see if he can get you connected with your new neighor. one never knows.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Need this guy to come look at his place now, he may change his mind, the portion on our side of the river is mostly underwater. just what i was thinking. you may have a non hunter who only wants 5-10 acres. call the realtor who sold it, and see if he can get you connected with your new neighor. one never knows.... Property was sold as "hunting property" Steve, he was keeping the higher ground closer to the easement access road. I did not come out and ask the realtor, but he did not offer the man's name either. I am kind of confused why they cannot still cut the property unless they are afraid things might not work out with the sale. Guess since they already have it under contract they don't want to take any risks and that may be why he did not offer the man's name. Either way I will find out from either the realtor or the courthouse in a couple weeks, he did say if for some reason something fell through he would be back in touch with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETMGROW Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Need this guy to come look at his place now, he may change his mind, the portion on our side of the river is mostly underwater. Property was sold as "hunting property" Steve, about 140 acres total, so he was keeping the higher ground closer to the easement access road. I did not come out and ask the realtor, but he did not offer the man's name either. Guess I am kind of confused why they cannot still cut the property unless they are afraid things might not work out with the sale. Guess since they already have it under contract they don't want to take any risks and that may be why he did not offer the man's name. Either way I will find out from either the realtor or the courthouse in a couple weeks, he did say if for some reason something fell through he would be back in touch with me. Ok Buddy, get on the phone NOW! Call the current owner. Tell him you just heard he is selling the property next to you. ( That's true ) See what his reaction is. If he says it is sold or in the process of closing then so be it. You can only hope something doesn't work out. If he says yes, the land is for sale you might have an inside track. I don't like to stereotype people but there are three groups I don't trust. Politicians, lawyers and real estate agents. Not necessarily in that order. The owner's agent could be baiting you by saying the property is sold but there is a chance it might not close. He could be waiting for you to make a ridiculos offer which he could pounce on or he could come back in a few days and say it probably won't be sold. Then he will ask for an offer. He knows you want it. I know from experience this can happen. Check it out. I'm not saying everything isn't on the QT but you never really know. Good luck, Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjam5 Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 That bites William. Hope you guys get another opportunity to get your hands on that land. I have heard you talk about wanting to buy that land in the past. If the sale goes through, I hope your new neighbor is a good guy and if it don't...hope you and Catrina get your wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruttinbuc Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Sorry to hear you missed out on that piece, William. I hope you don't have any problems with the new neighbor if in fact the deal does go through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 That stinks William but hope it works out to where you can strike a deal with the new owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeygirl Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Hope you get a chance down the road to gain that property....I myself am keeping an eye out to eventually purchase a chunk of land with a cabin on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 Ok Buddy, get on the phone NOW! Call the current owner. Tell him you just heard he is selling the property next to you. ( That's true ) See what his reaction is. If he says it is sold or in the process of closing then so be it. You can only hope something doesn't work out. If he says yes, the land is for sale you might have an inside track. I don't like to stereotype people but there are three groups I don't trust. Politicians, lawyers and real estate agents. Not necessarily in that order. The owner's agent could be baiting you by saying the property is sold but there is a chance it might not close. He could be waiting for you to make a ridiculos offer which he could pounce on or he could come back in a few days and say it probably won't be sold. Then he will ask for an offer. He knows you want it. I know from experience this can happen. Check it out. I'm not saying everything isn't on the QT but you never really know. Good luck, Lynn great idea. go for it, arty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 Ok Buddy, get on the phone NOW! Call the current owner. Tell him you just heard he is selling the property next to you. ( That's true ) See what his reaction is. If he says it is sold or in the process of closing then so be it. You can only hope something doesn't work out. If he says yes, the land is for sale you might have an inside track. I don't like to stereotype people but there are three groups I don't trust. Politicians, lawyers and real estate agents. Not necessarily in that order. The owner's agent could be baiting you by saying the property is sold but there is a chance it might not close. He could be waiting for you to make a ridiculos offer which he could pounce on or he could come back in a few days and say it probably won't be sold. Then he will ask for an offer. He knows you want it. I know from experience this can happen. Check it out. I'm not saying everything isn't on the QT but you never really know. Good luck, Lynn Wife talked with the owner, that is how we got the name for the realtor. When I drove by and saw the sign I did not get a chance to write down a number, so the wife called the owner. Impression she got was the owner did not know exactly where they were at with the property that borders ours, wife then called the realtor and later had me call him when she learned more details. I totally agree with you on trusting realtors Lynn. They are salespeople, and this one did try to get me interested in another property, which I would not mind having if we had access and if we could realistically afford it. Property behind us we were talking about would give us access to the other property. I know the value of the property that we border, its use is good for nothing other than for hunting. It cannot be accessed with any equipment from the other side, but can be from ours. If we were able to make an offer it would be not much if any above the county appraisal. It would not surprise me to hear from the realtor down the road, still at a loss for why they did not ever contact us. I have asked around to see if anyone knows who the new owner is, seems no one knows, surveyors did not think had even sold yet. Courthouse will have that info after they close. It may work out in our favor still though. New owner may not hunt there if he has concerns about his access, could make for a buffer/sanctuary area right off our edge where we already hunt. Who knows, he may eventually get tired of paying(mortgage and tax payments) for land he is not using and be willing to get rid of it. About the only way it could be a bad deal for us would be if the new owner leases it out to a club or the boys who were on it before. Realistically that could happen though, matter of fact the realtor did tell me he had some conversation with the boy who held the lease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted April 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Met the new owner on our turkey opener the last Saturday in March. He is hunting the section the realtor said he did not want, and he had a buddy with him. Go figure, they actually ended up on our property and looked a bit confused as he was pointing back towards me and towards an area I had been clearing before it got too wet. Was turkey droppings and tracks all over down there leading up to the opener and I had a bird roosted just up a ridge from me that I have no clue what happened with it Saturday morning. The birds seem to have vacated that area, no new sign and have not heard a bird gobble down there any mornings since our season opened. I sat and watched the 2 guys for probably 5 minutes before getting up and giving up on my turkey hunting for the day. Had a pretty good discussion with him and he said he was all for management and holding out for better deer. Seemed like a pretty nice guy and all, even with the part where him and his buddy walked in front of me on my side while I was sitting with hopes of maybe having some birds come into my calling, he was very apologetic. There was marking tape down there though(those traverse points) and I can understand their confusion. Could be good for the deer quality if he was being honest. I let him know the boys who had the place leased had people come in and shoot whatever and had watched deer walk off of us and get shot too many times to count. He knows from our conversation I am serious about letting little ones walk and told him what I hold out for. I got the impression that he has no intention of not holding onto the section that joins our property and he will obviously be hunting there. So don't guess he will be selling it, at least not at this point. There was a lot of snakes out down there on our side this weekend, sure they ran across a few, might change his perspective about what he is getting into. He asked if we would let him have access from our side, which he asked several times during the conversation that probably went on for close to 15 minutes. I politely told him I could not let him walk through our food plots and fields to get to his land because it would eventually pressure deer off of us, however I would let him come after deer he shot that came on us if he needed to. Tried to be nice about everything but with his persistence in asking about access he did not really seem very understanding of my point that we try not to pressure the deer and it would potentially mess up our hunting to let them walk through where we would be hunting. Dunno what was going on back there this weekend; 4 wheelers reving up people yelling and talking ALOT, and then someone blasting some bass. Almost wonder if it was the new owner or someone else since that property shares access. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 hopefully it ends up being a good relationship... may get stick of it and not want it down the road. who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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