Turkeygirl Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 Trying to decide which arrows to get for my set-up. Mainly hunting and the occasional 3D or winter league - Elite Hunter 25" DL, 53 lb. Trying to decide between: Beman ICs Hunter or ProHunter 500 GoldTip XT Hunter or Velocity 3555 I'll probably have them fletched with a helical. Looking for some thoughts/ suggestions? I'm switching to a QAD HDX rest as soon as winter league ends so these arrows will be used off this rest. also wondering if keeping them at 24" is ok or if they should be a tad longer with the QAD? I've read some cut them longer for a drop away, some don't... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeygirl Posted March 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 90 views and not one comment..hilarious...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhunter Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Which arrows? Neither. With such a short draw length and weight I'd shoot a very heavy arrow. Kenetic energy is scary low on that setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhunter Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Which arrows? Pile drivers, FMJs, injexion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhunter Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Which arrows? With ICS your at 7.3 GPI x 24 inches = 175 grains. With insert, vanes, nock, broadhead you will be around 325 grains. 325 @ 275 fps will be about 53KE 325 @ 250 fps will be about 45 KE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeygirl Posted March 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 So I probably should go to a heavier arrow? 400 or 5575? I've figured I hunt more than 3D so penetration is probably more important.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhunter Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Which arrows? There are a ton a variables still left out like broadhead choice among others. Basic principle is that even though the heavier arrow is traveling slower, it still gets better penetration than the faster lighter arrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 i have any experience with the velocity XT. i only know specs for them and what others have said. out of all of them i'd go with the XT hunters. they're mid ground for weight and are very durable. the velocity XT 500s you pick are lighter so the walls are thinner. they will not last as long before their spines start to break down or break do to whatever reason all together. penetration isn't the best. they'd get you great speed for 3D, though. it's a trade off you'll have to decide on. for length just cut them so the end of the insert reaches the front edge of the riser that way most any broadheads, small game, or bird snaro heads will have no issues clearing the riser. remember to make sure they use the metal cable clamps and don't serve in the cocking cord to the bow cable string. it should come up fully within the last 3/4" of draw or so. also make sure you get all the stuff that goes with it like the other launcher, felt stickers, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) So I probably should go to a heavier arrow? 400 or 5575? I've figured I hunt more than 3D so penetration is probably more important.... There are a ton a variables still left out like broadhead choice among others. Basic principle is that even though the heavier arrow is traveling slower, it still gets better penetration than the faster lighter arrow. hoosierhunter is right. however, to shoot .400 spined arrows you need to add more point weight up front to help flex that shaft. So now you're looking at a point weight of around 175 gr; 25gr additional point weight equates to 3lbs of added draw weight that the shaft would perceive. problem with doing this is now your FOC is way more than an optimal ~12%. Your arrow might not fly the best it could and more like a fishtailing lawn dart; great for penetration but not so much for accuracy. Edited March 11, 2013 by dbHunterNY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeygirl Posted March 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Thanks guys! I've been debating whether to keep at 24" or cut slightly shorter like 23.75" because of length added by the nock..but maybe that's miniscule? I read what you said db - have the arrow come to just in front of the riser so basically any tip or broadhead would work which makes sense... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WStreblo Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Which arrows? I agree with Hoosier..... Go heavy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbuck06 Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Which arrows? I shoot the Beman ICS Hunters and i am pleased with them. Granted i shoot a Mathews Drenalin pulling 68lbs at 28" draw length. I fletch them with Blazer vanes and shoot the 2 blade 100g Bloodrunner or the G5 Montec also 100g. I have killed several deer with this setup and have always had good penetration. Good luck to you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Don't for get your CX Maximas or Piledrivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhunter Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Which arrows? Ruth You can shoot a 125 or 150 grain head to help FOC and overall weight too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 Thanks guys! I've been debating whether to keep at 24" or cut slightly shorter like 23.75" because of length added by the nock..but maybe that's miniscule? I read what you said db - have the arrow come to just in front of the riser so basically any tip or broadhead would work which makes sense... as long as your bow is tuned well you won't notice much of any difference with the 1/4". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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