woolybear Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Out looking for antlers today when I got sidetracked by 8 coyote pups in a big hollow tree. Four of them ran inside with mom, and the other four were playing in the treetops down below. I sat outside the den for 5hrs. and got a few keeper shots of them as they'd peak their heads out. Mama yote was inside the den letting out some low frequency "growls" every time the four outside started to get close to the den. She was warning them to stay away, and every time she did that, they ran back to hide in the fallen tree tops again. On my way out, I stopped to see the straglers outside and they just layed there at my feet. It took everything I had not to toss the 4 of them in my pac,lol! Sure wish I had the new camera today but I'm glad I had something! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotashRLS Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Cool pics. Tough not to look at them as fawn grabbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Great pics !!! Had to be hard to not toss 'em in a sack with a rock and ................. well....................... GREAT PICS !!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Great pics Matt! You just needed a baseball bat! Cute little things but we got more than our fair share around here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybear Posted April 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Thanks guys! I thought for sure your hearts would be melting but I guess not,lol. I understand............cat lovers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 that's definitely something many would never see in there life. can't believe the mother didn't greet you swiftly out of the den. being that close to the young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Great pics Matt! You just needed a baseball bat! Cute little things but we got more than our fair share around here! yup my feeling towards yotes too...cute little guys tho..great pics! wooly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Great pics Matt. Agree with the others though, I woulda probably been shooting them with something else. Heard a couple weeks ago Tennessee is finally recognizing there is a problem with them and possibly going to implement a bounty on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Givan Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 Awesome pics. They sure are cute now, but problems later. I honestly couldnt kill them as pups like that. I would have to wait till they growed up haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 I honestly couldnt kill them as pups like that. Would not bother me a bit to get rid of them. Momma yote will kill a lot of fawns to feed those babies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhunter Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 Yote pups... Yep I would have killed them. I've actually had a similar experience and didn't feel the need to shoot until I got bit!!! Them the fun was over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybear Posted May 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 I'm actually a little surprised by the replies to be honest with ya. I can respect where many of you are coming from with the explosion of yote populations across the country and their impact on other species, but I could never bring myself to harm the pups. I guess to me it was just a rare encounter that I enjoyed being able to witness and capture. I would imagine even with a litter of this size, they still have a pretty rough road ahead with no gaurantees of survival even without my intervention. I suppose maybe I'm getting soft since I picked up a camera and eased up on the hunting. Oh well, this batch will be around for everyone to enjoy in their own way or wage war against in the future. Good conservation needs both sides to keep everybody happy and the critters in check without wiping them out completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 Aww come on Matt, you can smile and take pics and then club them like baby snow seals later, it doesn't have to be an either/or proposition! Besides, who said anything about wiping them out, just think how many more deer you've killed than yotes, now go out and try to achieve some balance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybear Posted May 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 LMBO- ok, ok, I'll whack 'em with my tripod next time through! Your such a bad influence John! Maybe I'll ship them to William and we can split the reward so I can get me some new camera gear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billkay Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 Really nice shots and dedication to spend that much time photographing them! If you can, maybe drop back in on them regularly to get some fresh pix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Givan Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 Would not bother me a bit to get rid of them. Momma yote will kill a lot of fawns to feed those babies. Well good for you. I couldn't do it, they look too much like domesticated pups to me. And I don't know how many actual fawns a coyote gets a year.. I think they do get a few, but Id say they rely on rodents, rabbits, and carrion more for food. I'm not suggesting they shouldn't be thinned out, I trapped them hard for 2 years at the big farm I deer hunt on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhunter Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 Yote pups... Studies have shown that between 70-90% of fawn deaths are from coyotes(Qdma). They will kill as many as 1 per day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 They look cute now and there was a time I would have thought the same way Ethan, I do understand and appreciate your view but in many places yotes are reproducing way too fast and they need dealt with. Around here I won't pass up the opportunity to kill any of them I can regardless of whether they are pups or full grown. Read that you kill off as many as you can out of an area and they will just increase the litter sizes to adjust, they are very good at adapting. I watched one last summer walk across the road in front of us in our durango around 8 am one morning, it walked into my neighbor's pasture with his cows and small calves and paid no attention to the donkey in his pasture or us as it was headed towards his calves. I don't have very many cows, I sure cannot afford to lose any to predation. Have read some pretty interesting articles over the years. Think one I read was at qdma and suggested that a female yote in a study killed 70 some odd fawns over about a month to feed her young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Givan Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 I completely understand they need to be thinned out, I have killed plenty of coyotes myself. I don't care if people want to kill the pups, no need to justify that action to me. I understand that, and fully support that decision. I was just saying I couldn't, not saying it was wrong too. I don't buy into 70 fawns a month at all. That's around 2.25 fawns per day... No way that's occurring. The deer population would be wiped out in no time, considering the number of female coyotes per square mile. Around here, I would guess that farmers cutting hay and harvesting wheat claim almost as many fawns as coyotes do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeygirl Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 Great photos wooly! I wouldn't be able to find it in my heart to harm them....It's like the fox take our chickens and ducks...one year there was a bunch of pops in the road, sure I could have run them all over with the car but I couldn't....not intentionally. you definitely got to experience something not many others can! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 I want to apologize for my part in taking the thread off course, probably should have started a thread for that discussion in the deer room. They are great shots Matt. Very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybear Posted May 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 Thanks Ruth and everyone else I may have forgot to thank! No worries William, I think it stayed on topic just fine. Good discussion here about a controversial subject that affects many of us. Seeing this post make it to 2 pages reminded me of the good ol' days here,lol. Can't complain about that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 Keep on posting the great shots Matt, always enjoy looking at yours and Mikes and the others too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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