WStreblo Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 I've been shooting muzzy max 4 broad heads since they came out. However ever since I bought a new bow I can't get them to fly without a corkscrew or fishtail action. I've spun my arrows, tried every configuration possible for blade and vane alignment... Anyone have any suggestions or a broad head that does what I like in a muzzy but flys like a field tip??? I got a bear hunt coming up in Saskatchewan in less than a month so I'm shooting like crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Corkscrew flight is usually due to a misaligned head OR fletching interference on the bow. It sounds like you've eliminated the spin issue on the head. Try spraying the back six inches of your arrow with foot powder and then shoot it. See if it any gets rubbed off the fletching after a shot. You can still have fletching interference issues with a drop away rest if the timing is off or the nock point height is incorrect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrown Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Wasp BOSS SST, mine is sight in with a 60 yrd pin, I've harvested an elk, and several deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WStreblo Posted April 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 broad head flight Thanks for the advice so far... I took my bow in and found it a little out of tune, I hope this corrects the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 little out of tune will do it too... let us know if it's fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WStreblo Posted May 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 broad head flight Will do db Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 In my experience it absolutely is possible to shoot a bullet hole through paper with a very slight fletching interference. So if you still have that corkscrew effect try the foot powder test I suggested earlier. What kind of arrow rest you using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrown Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 Not questioning your tactics Leo, just interested, why foot powder? Sounds like a pretty cool idea. I've always paper tuned, I'm thinking about bare shaft tuning, what do you use? I was elk hunting last year, and had quick spin crests and fletchings on a couple of arrows, and they wouldn't fly worth crap with a fixed blade, but with mechanicals they flew like a charm, later I had em re-fletched with an off set, and had no problem with arrow flight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 foot powder or baby powder will leave residue on the part of your bow that the fletching is touching after it leaves your bow... IMO you have a tuning issue on your bow, something is not right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 foot powder or baby powder will leave residue on the part of your bow that the fletching is touching after it leaves your bow... IMO you have a tuning issue on your bow, something is not right Exactly. That spray on Dr. Scholl's powder works the best for me. I always use it to identify problems before I get into tuning. The other thing you should do before you start tuning is check tiller, make sure the cams are tuned right, axle to axle length and brace height are to spec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WStreblo Posted May 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 broad head flight Broad head nightmare update... Got the bow tuned and made sure everything was tightened up and functional. Shot field tips and got my 20, 30, 40, 50, and 60 yard pins dead on. I could knock the lungs out of a fly... Put the muzzys on at 20 and same thing as before. Corkscrewing and fish tailing all over the place. I checked to see if the arrow was hitting anything and can't find any evidence, I reconfigured the blades with the vanes, offset the vanes, you name it I've done it. Put some grim reaper practice heads on and was able to tighten it up at 20 but I still notice a slight and I mean ever so slight wiggle right before impact. Completely stumped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WStreblo Posted May 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 broad head flight Got it figured out! On a hunch I moved my string loop a little, proud to say 20 and 30 yard pins are dead on. Getting a little to dark for 40 and beyond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 you moving the string loop may have been lessening vertical knock travel as your string is traveling from full draw to at rest... that effects broadheads more so than fieldtips. your shafts maybe slightly too weak with the knock travel and the fact that fixed blades work like wings checking air, flexing your shaft more. the foot powder thing works but haven't had any trouble yet just eyeballing things to clear. as long as your dropaway is timed right per mfg's specs you're guaranteed clearance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrown Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 Question, would that have not showed up as a vertical tear if paper tuned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 Question, would that have not showed up as a vertical tear if paper tuned? Not necessarily. Paper tuning gets your nock height and rest centering close to the ideal position but it is just the starting point. To really fine tune your set up you need to do a "walk back" tune and "broadhead" tune last. It's not unusual to find you need to do a little more nock position adjustment during a "walk back" tune after the bow has been paper tuned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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