ruttinbuc Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 Boo-yah!!! Smoked him, Gave him a dirt nap, target buck, hit list, meat missile, put the smack down on him, and all the other verbiage that you hear over and over. Not so much from the shows, which do imitate each other in far too many ways , but from those simple folk who use the terms to describe their experience. Originality is gone as most of these shows are no more than marketing expositions with very little in the way of teaching. It has come down to promoting hunting as far from reality as it gets for most of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midwesthunter815 Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 I enjoy watching most hunting shows mainly because they are better than other things on tv. Never thought about complaints I had until this morning watching one of the shows. The host repeatedly said he only shoots does, never bucks. I have watched this show many times before and know he shoots bucks. Just thought he seemed a little inconsistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 We see bucks hit poorly & still recovered, usually the next day. With that in mind for me it's knowing they hit bucks that are never recovered & that footage goes in the trash. They give the impression they recover every single deer they hit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Pretty much the only hunting show I watch is Midwest whitetail every year online. very good show. I've watched it since the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 the show on TV I don't think is as good as online webisodes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrown Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Question for ya all! What seperates a "Professional" from any of us, other than money? That's what gets my goat! Any of us could probably do the same if we where hunting with outfitters, that tell you when the animal is going to show up, or you pay $$$ to elk hunt on the Apache reservation, or King Ranch, REALLY!!!! Their are some that I think are the real deal, like Cameron Hanes, or I like watching Relentless Pursuits! How many can knock a goose out of the air with a bow, or go predator hunting with a bow, that's pretty cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSHoytHunter Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 What gets your goat? To me, I look at it as entertainment more than reality. A person gets to see some bucks that most of us will never see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Question for ya all! What seperates a "Professional" from any of us, other than money? That's what gets my goat! Any of us could probably do the same if we where hunting with outfitters, that tell you when the animal is going to show up, or you pay $$$ to elk hunt on the Apache reservation, or King Ranch, REALLY!!!! Their are some that I think are the real deal, like Cameron Hanes, or I like watching Relentless Pursuits! How many can knock a goose out of the air with a bow, or go predator hunting with a bow, that's pretty cool. Pretty good thread here on the topic of your question http://www.realtree.com/forums/realtree-pro-staff-room/81962-so-you-want-hunting-pro.html. Pretty well agree with what you are saying, given the opportunities some have I believe a lot of every day hunters could accomplish the same as the "pro's" if they had those same opportunities. You look at the farms and amount of land that some of the "pros" have available to them to hunt and it is no wonder that they can grow deer to incredible sizes that the average hunter can only dream about. Kind of interesting too how some of these "pro's" choose to have celebrities(music stars and athletes) who can afford to hunt anywhere as guests on their properties. Imo would be better to see them take a kid like Steve Beilgard does or a wounded warrior but instead they take those that they think will boost their ratings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WStreblo Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 What gets your goat? Send me an invite and I will go hunt with a pro and let y'all know how it goes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) Question for ya all! What seperates a "Professional" from any of us, other than money? That's what gets my goat! Any of us could probably do the same if we where hunting with outfitters, that tell you when the animal is going to show up, or you pay $$$ to elk hunt on the Apache reservation, or King Ranch, REALLY!!!! No doubt any experienced hunter can probably be as successful killing critters as most of the personalities you're talking about. Granted many use outfitters & those outfitters have special areas within their properties they save for those hunters. Yep...if you hunt with those outfitters, you won't be hunting the same low pressure bucks they're hunting. However, there are some pros that hunt their own farms and/or leased farms and figure it out themselves. Other than that, in many cases they have the luxury to hunt bucks that simply aren't as spooky as the bucks most of us are used to hunting. Now with that said those guys & gals and their cameramen are putting in a WHOLE lot of time in the woods. We see a very small portion of time they're out there. They sacrifice time with their families to do it. How many of us would be able to do that...or even want to? How many of us would not hunt without a cameraman in the tree, blind, whatever with us? NOT ME!!! I'd rather have the luxury of picking and choosing when I want to hunt...not when I have to regardless of the circumstances. I don't want to have to shoot a buck I'd pass because it would make good footage either. I don't want a cameraman telling me I can't hunt a spot because he can't get good footage there or have to risk him spooking a once in a lifetime opportunity. Worse than that a once in a lifetime buck shows up late & you have to pass cuz there's not enough light for the camera. I've met several of those guys over the years. One thing I distinctly remember while talking to a cameraman for Primos at my taxidermist shop one summer...he couldn't wait for that turkey season to end. He said he was in the field for 54 straight days that spring, rain or shine. Now that would be taking something I love to do and turning into work! No thanks...not for me. Edited August 2, 2013 by Rhino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Question for ya all! What seperates a "Professional" from any of us, other than money? That's what gets my goat! Any of us could probably do the same if we where hunting with outfitters, that tell you when the animal is going to show up, or you pay $$$ to elk hunt on the Apache reservation, or King Ranch, REALLY!!!! No doubt any experienced hunter can probably be as successful killing critters as most of the personalities you're talking about. Granted many use outfitters & those outfitters have special areas within their properties they save for those hunters. Yep...if you hunt with those outfitters, you won't be hunting the same low pressure bucks they're hunting. However, there are some pros that hunt their own farms and/or leased farms and figure it out themselves. Other than that, in many cases they have the luxury to hunt bucks that simply aren't as spooky as the bucks most of us are used to hunting. Now with that said those guys & gals and their cameramen are putting in a WHOLE lot of time in the woods. We see a very small portion of time they're out there. They sacrifice time with their families to do it. How many of us would be able to do that...or even want to? How many of us would not hunt without a cameraman in the tree, blind, whatever with us? NOT ME!!! I'd rather have the luxury of picking and choosing when I want to hunt...not when I have to regardless of the circumstances. I don't want to have to shoot a buck I'd pass because it would make good footage either. I don't want a cameraman telling me I can't hunt a spot because he can't get good footage there or have to risk him spooking a once in a lifetime opportunity. Worse than that a once in a lifetime buck shows up late & you have to pass cuz there's not enough light for the camera. I've met several of those guys over the years. One thing I distinctly remember while talking to a cameraman for Primos at my taxidermist shop one summer...he couldn't wait for that turkey season to end. He said he was in the field for 54 straight days that spring, rain or shine. Now that would be taking something I love to do and turning into work! No thanks...not for me. I'm with you Al, lots of great posts on this topic and yes most of these Hunters do get the premium stands most of us will never see but they also persevere like most of us never will bc it is their livelihood and hunting shows and personalities are a dime a dozen and it takes dedication plus a great screen presence to make a living plus a lot of luck. Personally I rarely watch many shows anymore, have a few favorites when I do, still like the Drury's and bone collector stuff but most of them I'll pass to watch a rerun spaghetti western lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Good post Alan, I agree. Some guys love it so much they want to make money at it, or get famous. That's fine with me if that's what you want, I don't think I could ever do it. I think it would take the fun out of it. Comparing yourself to other hunters is silly to me too. I'll kid around with my buddies and say I'm a better hunter, but I'm not, and who cares if you are or aren't? Is that the point of hunting? I guess for some it is. For me it's seeing if I can fool the deer and sharing the stories with a buddy or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WStreblo Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 What gets your goat? I feel the same way you do Tom. I just like to get out in the woods and see the things I love. I like taking the kids into the woods for their first hunt and seeing their faces and I wouldn't want tools that for the world. I like hunting with my family and my friends and sitting around after a long day drinkin a cold one, talking about a deer I've seen since he was a spike buck, and talking strategies. I wouldn't want to be a hunter hunting on camera each week.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scbasshunter Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 What gets your goat? I'm watching Wildgame Nation right now. The guy grunted to stop a buck and when the buck stopped, he waited about 10 seconds before he shot at him. I can't help but feel that if people like us wait 10 seconds after stopping a deer, were going to be watching that deer leaving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted August 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Love Bill Jordan, on RT outdoors last eve..he had a GREAT Kansas buck (160) class, come in at last light first day...and did not shoot...."im gonna kick myself" he says on cam...I yell back "bend over Bill I'll help ya"!..lol I woulda dumped it...he waited it out and several days later got a Bruiser, about the same size with a couple stickers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swhughes81 Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 What gets your goat? What is ur all thoughts on a show that's about us. About putting the work in yourself killing does and bucks if your lucky and talking about hunting the small lands like most if us hunt hunting land that u may put a small clover plot in maybe quarter of an acre on small land like 20 Acres here or 30 or 15 stuff like that. Just asking me and my are mulling over ideas for something like that on the Internet. Would u all watch something like that? We talking about Doing it For fun for something to show our children one day and if the 1% chance the right person saw it and something happened that's fine, if not we still doing it for fun for the love we have for hunting the excitement. This ain't no hope we get rich or famous just something different something real something that average joe hunter can say oh yeah I know what that is like. Anyway we were just mulling ideas like I said and just wondered thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhunter Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 What gets your goat? I'm love/hate with TV shows. The love is because without them I would have never strived to manage deer in the fashion that I do. I've learned a great deal and its help to educate people( btw there is also bad education present) The hate part is that producing the show takes priority over common sense. Take Stan Potts for example....4 200 inch deer in his lifetime. Now if I was that fortunate I just couldn't justify killing 130 inch 3 year olds for a camera. I think people need to have a realistic view of the shows. It's not realistic to expect those results for the average Joe. The bad thing is that we want it and we want it now. If they showed how many hours they have on stand with no sightings, people wouldn't watch. I hunt my tail off and I only get a handful of mature deer(4.5+) encounters during the year. I bet I get blanked on deer sightings over 20 times thought the season. It's extremely tough hunting mature deer on small farms as your target. We had two guys from Alaska come hunt with us for 7 straight days on 800 acres and neither saw a shooter. Then we went to Kansas and giants were everywhere. That's just how it goes sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WStreblo Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 What gets your goat? I agree Hoosier... It's even worse when a kid tells you he's not shooting anything less than 150 and he's never even shot a deer before. There is a time to be selective and there is a time to manage the deer you have. The younger generation are in for poor hunting if they choose to keep letting bucks with poor genes walk and breed.... Very few shows out there show the big pro hunter managing his deer by reducing the does and non breeder bucks. Big antlers or bust any more, and that's what gets my goat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Would u all watch something like that? . Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 (edited) I'm with you too Pat. Used to watch them a lot more than I do now. Seems in recent years every Tom, Dick, Harry, Jill, & Jane has a show. Sorry...I don't watch Stan Potts anymore. Last time I saw him was on a NAW show when he wacked a young buck and got alllll fired up. Never watched him on a show again. Same thing you're talking about. Heck, it's gotten to the point where I don't watch many hunting shows at all. I do enjoy the Drury's shows when I happen to catch them on. Mark's not going to shoot an immature buck. Terry's going to miss more than he hits. JK Terrry! Most of their other prostaff hunters pass young bucks too. They do hunt some prime turf including their own farms. To be honest though...I'd rather buy their DVD's & watch them at my leisure without the dang commercials interrupting the hunts. Enjoy some of the RT shows and Ralph & Vicki's too but I can't tell you when they are on. It's just not that important. I am on Midwest Whitetail's email list so I get emails from them & can watch their online show when I have the time. They have some pretty good informative stuff besides just hunting & killing deer. Bottom line...I'd rather enjoy the experience for myself...first hand. I would also rather enjoy putting in the time preparing for those anticipated experiences than worrying about missing a specific hunting show. Yea...I know I could record it but I'm not...isn't that important. One thing you'll never get from watching a hunting show. The peaceful relaxing feeling you experience while in a stand. Kick back & enjoy the sights, the smells, the sounds. Well...until deer show up & make your heart race. There's no telling how many hours on average I have to spend on a stand just to see a mature buck, much less get him in bow range. Just seeing one makes the hunt extra special...getting one into bow range is icing on the cake. It is easier where I hunt in MO compared to where I hunted in MS. Why? Simple...more bucks make it to maturity. Heck there's a lot of hunters that go years before seeing a mature deer. Some haven't seen one yet. Edited August 6, 2013 by Rhino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 I've yet to see a 5.5+ year old mature buck, even going on the few destination hunts I've been on that were on intensively managed land. there's some shows I've watched religiously, mainly Midwest Whitetail. Dropped (with the Keefer brothers), Jim Shockey's the Professionals are close seconds. I'm sure there's others I'll watch but haven't stuck on me enough. Despite content differs greatly between those I listed, all are produced very well. I think there's so many out there now that good shows get tossed into the mix and probably over looked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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