Ravin R10 man Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 The officer confronting Brown on the street, says Brown went for his gun, I wasnt there, but I think it comes down to how much of a threat was Brown to the officers safety at that point, and what the officers options were at the time of confontation. http://documents.latimes.com/police-report-michael-brown-case/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthGaHuntingandOutdoors Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 I'm still waiting for more info before I say one way or another. However, with the release of the video showing him in the strong arm robbery....... he wasn't exactly the angel his family and friends claimed. But in now way does that justify the shooting. If he did attack the officer, he deserved it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUDRUNNER Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 This is actually all going on about 45 minutes from me. I am still waiting to here more details before passing judgment. From my understanding Brown was charged with armed robbery & assault last year also. The kid was no angel. The officer did receive injuries and went to the hospital. Weather or not the officer acted correctly is yet to be seen. I do know one thing, these protesters are not demonstrators.....they are thugs, thieves, and vandals who IMO have no dog in this fight. I feel bad for the people of Ferguson who's town has been torn up & pillaged by strangers & people that don't even live there. These poor folks didn't ask for any of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Guess the way i see it is this: If i was in the officers shoes what would i have done? A kid with a history of armed robbery appears to be going for a weapon(if in fact he looked to be going for a weapon) am i going to let him get the drop on me and end up dead or am i going to act. I don't think any good officer wants to ever shoot a kid to defend themself, an unfortunate situation they would hope to avoid, but unfortunately it happens. Don't know all the details of this as to what exactly took place so certainly not my place to say it was an act of self defense or cold blooded murder of an 18 year old that was maybe or maybe not surrendering. What is the officers history? What if it had been a black officer to have shot Brown? Would there be any discussion over this? Had it been a black officer would the community be in such a state? A lot of those screaming about this if in the same situation would probably have a different outlook. Sadly these things are exploited and become a race issue by the likes of "reverend" Jackson and Al Sharpton who seem to have made their lives off of hate mongering and driving/stirring racial tension in places that could use some help with trying to solve the problems. Really is very sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted August 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) Listened to a pastor from that town today..he said many of the rioters are not even from that town; ~reporter with a stack of roughly 50 arrest reports. While some of those arrested for stealing are from Ferguson, a large number have addresses listed in Illinois or in Texas. more I hear about confrontation, officer was in the right. individual was extremely confrontational, went for officers gun after punching and pushing him back into patrol car, then taunted officer and running towards officer coming back for more after repetedly told to stop. I'd shoot too Edited August 20, 2014 by Mathews XT Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Listened to a pastor from that town today..he said many of the rioters are not even from that town; ~reporter with a stack of roughly 50 arrest reports. While some of those arrested for stealing are from Ferguson, a large number have addresses listed in Illinois or in Texas. more I hear about confrontation, officer was in the right. individual was extremely confrontational, went for officers gun after punching and pushing him back into patrol car, then taunted officer and running towards officer coming back for more after repetedly told to stop. I'd shoot too Not followed this just real real close but have heard enough to hear that there are conflicting accounts from different "eyewitnesses". Saw part of the initial Michael Bodden press conference and sounded like it was pretty inconclusive as to what exactly took place despite the family atty's making a circus of things with their accusations and guesses as to what they want to believe happened. Also heard a reporter say he interviewed a group that was with the protest that said they were from NY. These groups rioting are all in the wrong. The media and protestors need to let the leo's whether they be state or federal do their jobs and quit causing problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted August 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 90% of arrested were from OUTSIDE Ferguson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 I've got MUD beat - about a 20-30 minute drive from my house. Our local Walmart took all their guns out of the cases due to the rioting and looting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUDRUNNER Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 So they had the big funeral yesterday. I don't get it....this kid is being treated like a hero by the media & the community. All of these people passed judgement on the officer immediately without knowing the whole story. If the cop doesn't get charged & it comes out that he was in his right to shoot, then look out. All of the rioting that has been going on is just a sample of what might happen in that situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthGaHuntingandOutdoors Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 So they had the big funeral yesterday. I don't get it....this kid is being treated like a hero by the media & the community. All of these people passed judgement on the officer immediately without knowing the whole story. If the cop doesn't get charged & it comes out that he was in his right to shoot' date=' then look out. All of the rioting that has been going on is just a sample of what might happen in that situation.[/quote'] And it won't be just in Ferguson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Sad that so many have not respected the Brown family's wishes and the violence has resulted. Thought obama probably gave the best speech of his career last night at least inn part with his emphasis on respecting the calls for peace from the family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Not guilty...just as I figured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) If the stupid kid had just....put his hands up, we wouldn't have this problem. And Rodney could have pulled over when he saw the lights flashing.... And Trayvon could have just told George he was going to grandma's..... But defiance and aggression was their choice.... Edited November 25, 2014 by RangerClay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 EXACTLY...everybody has to have a bad a-- attitude..well where did that get them?? No respect for authority..gee do we see a pattern here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Accountability!!! The parents want the "killer" brought to justice? Why don't they use this to encourage children to make better life choices. The boy put himself in the situation which was completely avoidable. The officer was doing his job, he did not target Brown. A flipside to this, there was a white 18 year old boy killed by a cop not far from here back in September. The boy was shot while inside his vehicle. Where is the media coverage??? Where is the outrage and riots? The most disgusting part of all this is that these whacked racists destroying others property are doing exactly what causes profiling and stereotyping. Had it been a black officer that shot Brown this would not be a conversation. This is race driven and only going to further drive race relations in this country in a bad direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUDRUNNER Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Pretty much went down exactly how i thought it would. From the evidence i saw last night there is know way that the officer could be indited. The actions of the looters and rioters are breeding a whole new generation of racism. I don't think they realize the implications of their actions and the problems they will cause for years to come. These people are treating it like a party and a free for all. It's sickening to watch how human beings can have so little respect for others and their property. I can't believe that the African american community is tolerating this kind of behavior. They need somebody to stand up and shut this down instead of encouraging it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 When OJ was aquitted, how many Whites did you see riot???...... EXACTLY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bug House Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 I'm in NY for a wedding this week. I was having dinner with dear friend who is a Detective in the NYPD Bomb squad. He was in the last graduating class prior to 9/11, his classmate from the academy is now an FBI agent working in Ferguson and sent hem several texts during dinner last night. Apparently there were/are credible threats for escalating riots in most of the big cities across the Country. There seems to be a prevalent 3rd world element. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bug House Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 When OJ was aquitted, how many Whites did you see riot???...... EXACTLY! As much as I dislike these Internet Meme cliches ..... This is so true!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 While oj was certainly NOT acting in self defense as appears that Wilson was, the example as it pertains to rioting is dead on. There is no reason for the violence and criminal activity taking place, a real sad world live in when this type thing is resorted to by people with no relation to and excused by that community as being tolerable because they did not like the outcome. Reality is the trouble makers were probably looking for any excuse to act out. Society issues, goes right straight back to accountability. Criminals take on risks, they don't like the risks maybe they should have second thoughts about engaging in illegal or criminal behavior. Think the state needs to step up and get a handle on the situation asap, implement a curfew and the national guard should be in full force and arrest anyone breaking curfew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Thought that's why the Guard was there to begin with...and WHY wait till 9 pm to announce the outcome...just the time the scum bags are out?....why not 8 am..so they could see the criminals, get a handlwe on things and set up a curfew? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Reports that there was a murder last night near where Brown was shot. Don't know why they waited to announce it either unless they had to get the jurors out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Here we are almost in 2015 and some "people" are just looking for a reason to be violent. I'll bet MLK Jr is rolling in his grave with disgust. My best friend since high school worked at the Walgreen's they burned down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdoc Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 should be a big sign that says "you loot, we shoot". A law abiding citizen when told by a peace offer to stop or get on the ground--stops and gets on the ground. When a law abiding citizen is told to put your hands up---they put their hands up. It's as simple as that---if he would have done that he'd still be alive. I am happy for the peace officer. todd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted November 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 With ya there Todd...like I said lay down a curfew..shoot on site looters. Problem ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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