DEER SCENT ADVISORY

[FireStation46]

Facebook Logo Urine-Based Deer Lures Advisory The NJDEP Division of Fish and Wildlife recommends the use of synthetic, non-urine-based scents or lures in deer hunting. The infectious prions which cause Chronic Wasting Disease can be spread through urine-based lures. Studies have shown the prions can survive for years in contaminated soils and the environment. Urine-based scents and lures are not treated to kill the prions as heating or chemical treatments would also reduce the desired scent characteristics. Hunters using urine-based scents should place them in areas out of contact with deer, the ground or vegetation. http://www.njfishandwildlife.com/cwd_urinelures.htm

[Ravin R10 man]

Somebody tell the deer not to pee on the ground then

what a crock of B.S. why is ALWAYS our fault?

Prions probably have been here all along, it's just until somebody reported a sick deer that "We have to do something"!

Just an excuse to justify more control and ban hunters and sportsman, and deer breeders from feeding and baiting etc.

You dont hear Texas talking like that...look at what they have done for the whitetail

Edited July 26, 2015 by Mathews XT Man

[wtnhunt]

Somebody tell the deer not to pee on the ground then

what a crock of B.S. why is ALWAYS our fault?

Prions probably have been here all along, it's just until somebody reported a sick deer that "We have to do something"!

Just an excuse to justify more control and ban hunters and sportsman, and deer breeders from feeding and baiting etc.

You dont hear Texas talking like that...look at what they have done for the whitetail

Think the concern here Martin is that urine that is collected from deer in areas where cwd exists and potentially infected scents may transmit to deer in areas where cwd does not currently exist. That warning has been out for some time and have seen it in our handbooks here in the past along with the regs on how to deal with bringing back animals from cwd states. Never personally took it as blaming but rather educating.

I am not a biologist, but seems to make sense. I mean urine and feces are known to be a mode of transmission of infectious diseases that are deadly in other animals. Possums transmit deadly disease when they go on hay or grass and horses eat that grass.

[Ravin R10 man]

Still a crock Will; these deer farmers have to test ALL the animals, and are under strict guidelines health wise..still B.S. sorry

You give me one case that any scents were found proven to carry the prions

Edited July 28, 2015 by Mathews XT Man

[Ravin R10 man]

Deer Urine Lure Bans Based on Propaganda, Not Science

July 06, 2015

When government regulations go so far beyond rational disease prevention and animal husbandry practices that they actually work to eliminate an industry, the regulations are most often based on propaganda and not science. Such is the case with the recent regulatory inquisition over deer scent products which incorporate deer urine.

Prions €” the protein presumed to transmit Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) €” have been found in the urine, feces and saliva of infected animals, so some officials are concerned that urine collected from farm-raised deer and elk could spread the disease, and their solution is to ban every sportsman from using or even carrying on their person urine-based scent products.

This approach is an oppressive, over-simplified overreaction and ignores scientific data collected over the past 30 years. There has never been a documented case of urine-based scents spreading CWD, and most reputable scientists, who are knowledgeable on CWD transmission, agree that the amount of actual prions contained within urine is so infinitesimal that it poses no threat.

Nationally renowned expert on CWD transmission, Dr. Nicholas Haley of the College of Veterinary Medicine, Department of Diagnostic Medicine/Pathobiology at Kansas State University, has publicly voiced his opposition to bans on deer urine lures.

Dr. Haley has researched the transmissibility of CWD in urine and saliva of deer for more than 10 years, and written a PhD thesis on the subject. In addition, his work currently includes the development of a live animal test for the disease. Based on his experience and the available data, Haley concluded there is little risk of the transmission of CWD naturally through the use of commercially available urine from farms taking prescribed and appropriate prevention measures, a risk €œvery close to zero.€ÂÂ

Commercial scents are manufactured with urine obtained from farming facilities with a minimum of five years (many have 10+ years) in the USDA CWD herd certification program, a program developed using all available scientific data on CWD. As part of this federal program, the commercial scent industry follows vigorous disease testing and prevention programs with state and federal guidelines and oversight.

Yet, regardless of those facts, state regulatory agencies still seem eager to regulate an entire industry out of existence without any factual data and without the backing of science.

There are many legitimate concerns over the transmission of CWD, but urine-based scents are not one of them. While good intentions can be noble, decisions that influence and regulate entire industries and restrict hunting opportunities for sportsmen should be based on facts and science, not feel-good legislation and propaganda.

Shawn Schafer, Executive Director

North American Deer Farmers Association

I just ordered MORE TINKS!

Edited July 28, 2015 by Mathews XT Man

[im your huckleberry]

C.W.D is directly related to Mad cow, which is partially cause by giving them animal protien feed according to the game cops bioligists , we had a bad scare of cwd about6 years ago we are still turning the deer heads in for examination even though less than 1% of the 2500 deer shot by the government agency had this. It is probably the game cops want to shut hunter success down to nothing so they get some sort of study done and manipulate the study so it seems bad to hunters and we quit buying the products.