Ravin R10 man Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/03/17/gingrich-im-not-sympathetic-to-erick-ericksons-third-party-overtures-would-be-functionally-supporting-hillary-clinton/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 This election cycle looks to be a complete disaster for this country. Just when it looks like the gop couldn't possibly make more fatal mistakes than they already have they do. Party as it was is done!!! Unless Cruz can grab delegates from another candidate and wins the majority of the remaining states then trump will be the nominee whether the gop as a whole likes it or not. Have to begin to wonder about the Romney connection to this. Agree with the speaker that a third party will split the vote but hitlery may be a lock anyway given the current climate; too many disgusted voters that are not gonna vote trump and so many that won't vote it he doesn't make it, lose lose and we the people are the one's that will pay the price. Only way trump may have a chance would be to run Rubio or Kasich as his vp, but looking more likely Christie may be his choice. Of course everything could change at the drop of a hat with the clinton investigation. That may set up for a Biden ticket. Lose lose anyway you look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted March 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) Yup, Will, Kasich has said he is NOT looking at VP position. One thing for sure , you take trump out and replace him with anybody, those voters are not coming out in Nov. either. they will give it to the libs if they do that Edited March 18, 2016 by Mathews XT Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 Fwiw, trump in a sense has split the party and maybe made it less effective a process than would be a 3rd party. Remember he promised in the beginning that if the RNC did not treat him fairly that he WOULD run as an independant and only later came back and agreed to pledge to not run on a 3rd party and even then was wishy washy about it all. I would reluctantly vote for cruz if it came down to it in a general, still don't think I could vote for trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted March 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Will, The Rep. party NEEDS to be shakin up! They are in bed with the Dems. They had the power and refused to do ANYTHING to combat the power grab Obumma was doing. They pretty much gave him full reign, and funded it all too! Republicans split the party by NOT doing what it should have been doing..Voters are not standing for it, and I cant blame them. At this point, Cruz cant make it anyways, the Establishment dont like him either.Trump like anybody has red flags, I will agree, nobody is perfect. We all must unite behind 1 candidate, and SOON! America dont get this train back on track this time, were done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Unfortunately voters did not get the train back on the tracks with the disaster we have now and that is a huge part of the problem with where we are. trump was running even if it meant running as an independant. First four years of obamas failures and passing legislation no-one wanted was not enough to motivate voters so we got stuck with another 4 years. Are we that desperate that we can come up with no better candidates? How stupid are we, really seriously think about it. People voting who don't even know who the current vp is. Ridiculous where this country has gotten to. It is no longer the constitutional republic it was established as. The tyranny that safe guards were put in place for are ignored. Our representatives serve themselves rather than we the people and we are stupid enough to let them. Who ever would have thought it would be a consideration that the gop would be running trump and a conservative might run as an independant. Allowing trump as a gop candidate split the party, rnc made the error of not vetting trump better before allowing the circus or "shake up" that has gone on. That is not conservative voters fault. I personally don't think I can vote for trump. cruz may not make it, neither may make 1237. Still is some possibility that they may be very close in the end in which case where does that leave things. I have a sound rationale for not believing trump is what this country needs. He is not a republican, he is pulling dems and independants to the "party", but what party is it. trump has hijacked the republican party for his own use. While that is great to pull non rep voters, trump alienates conservative voters from the party. Trump is as dirty as any Washington politician, anyone who seriously believes otherwise needs to go back and listen to his own words inn nationally aired debates. jm2c on trump if he was to actually win, he will fail miserably on the promises he has made which will piss off those voters who thought he was going to be their savior. Realistically most folks with any sense know he won't be able to bully his way into accomplishing what he promises, UNLESS follows obamas lead and abuses executive action. Where will that leave the party and the country. Like Ben Carson says though only 4 years right? Look at how disastrous the first 4 years of obamas reign was. The next four will be a continuation of his 8 years with clinton and likely trump would not be all that much different, only trump may well make for a more unstable world than current which is not what anyone needs. Sad truth is it is a lesser of evils election when trump and clinton are the candidates, but who knows which is more dangerous. What seems odd to me is that some of the other candidates like Christie said a vote for trump was essentially a vote for clinton, what happened with that? Are the primary voters that showed up for trump going to show up for him in November and are there going to be enough of them to make up for the voters he has and is still is continuing to alienate? A shake up could be good yes, hijacked party though no that is not good imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted March 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 (edited) Bringing in Dems, independants and first time voters is not hijacking. If anyone the Elite rep. are trying to hijack the party as I see it. corrected...lol Edited March 23, 2016 by Mathews XT Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 Bringing in Dems, independents and first time voters is not hijacking. If anyone the Elite rep. are trying to hijack the party as I see it. Hijack or transform, call it what you want. Just my opinion and i guess we will have to respectfully agree to disagree. Are you saying i can't spell. lol. Was an elementary school spelling bee state alternate in 4th grade. Auto correct and swiping make for regular uncorrected errors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted March 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 No Will, I wanted to get it right on MY end...I didnt know the correct spelling either..lol Not going to ask you to repeat 4rth grade...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 Well fwiw a dependant is a noun and would be the word used for a person, dependent is an adjective..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted March 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) I dont like dependants...we have FAR too many of them, NO I was not an A student in English class was not a little Angle either..oops..Angel... Edited March 28, 2016 by Mathews XT Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 Almost getting the impression now that trump may break his promise not to run as a third party contestant. I have not heard all the details, but this weekend has led way to you yet more ridiculous claims from trump after cruz narrowed the delegate count. Becoming pretty apparent that trumps support is not growing but rather slipping and also becoming clear there will not be a single candidate that meets the 1237 required to be the nominee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted March 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 YUP, what a mess....at this point, One would want to vote for the one who could take this country in the right direction, I think Kasich may be the better of the three, based on past performance.... but has no chance of going anywhere....our Primary is fast approaching., and I'm still unsure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUDRUNNER Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 The republican party is really squandering their chance to take over and turn things around yet again. Anymore it's pretty muddy waters between the political parties and it is discouraging. I voted for Kasich as out best option, but it is looking more pretty unlikely at this point that he will get the nomination. Come election day I will vote for who ever is running against Hillary whether I like them or not I suppose. One of these days I hope we have a presidential candidate that I can really get behind and support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 I would vote kasich in the general in the event the gop pulls something and somehow manages to nominate him. Better believe trump will threaten yet more that he will file lawsuits if he doesn't get his way, tantrums remind me of my 4 year old, at least my 4 year old does not use vulgarities, profanity, and slam other people who don't agree with him. For someone who claims to hate lawsuits trump sure threatens alot to file them. Hipocritical, maybe??? Still question his follow through as he never pushed forward in the suit he said he was filing against obama either. He has to be the MOST childish excuse for a presidential candidate i have seen in my 46 years and the least "presidential", but then what does one expect from someone who was so tight with the clinton's up until fairly recent. trump may well be a bigger liar than the clinton's. Would reluctantly vote cruz. I will not vote for trump period. trump is responsible for his own words, cannot spin it and blame the media. He has made for the already failing party to be a circus, still my opinion that he has hijacked it. Just MY opinions here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted April 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 We need another REAGAN like President Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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