wtnhunt Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Takes a real low being to twist a tragedy into an agenda, and Obama once again wasted no time turning his stage, while some 30 + hours later victims families are still not even yet notified, into a push for his agenda on gun control. Had to know it would come out, but wow there is a time for that discussion and it is not the time when families are scrambling to know if there children or siblings or friends are dead or not. Obama reached a new low in my book and think on this one I have to actually agree with Trump, he needs to step down. His administration is a catastrophic failure and just another example of his failed policy. The fbi had this islamic radical terrorist for interview 3 times and they let him go. Just incredible, my heart goes out to the families of those who were taken from them, this tragic incident was by all means avoidable and never should have happened! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Guess they did not have security /screening at the door Even though I do not support the LGBT veiw at all; Sad Day for all involved, nobody deserves this What did you expect from a ''Fellow Muslim President"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ODH Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Radical Muslims is the problem not us law abiding gun owners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted June 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Reported that the shooter was confronted by an armed officer that was working on duty in the club and was after that that he took hostages in the bathrooms. Not heard whether there was security at the door, but also was some reports that doors were chained shut. Regardless of the club type of patrons and whether or not you agree with that lifestyle this was a horrific event that never should have happened. The monster that carried this out could have happened into a school or a church and if we are so complacent that think that might not happen again in the near future "closer to home" then we really do have our heads buried in the sand. This country has been allowed to be infiltrated from within and rather than cutting the head off the snake and taking the fight to them our leadership has abandoned the fight, against advice of the generals on the ground where they are metasticizing, and is inviting in more potential terrorists with open arms. What is it gonna take for this country to get over the pc nonsense and start dealing with these monsters like they need to be dealt with. When someone pledges allegiance to isis or denounces this country in any way shape or form whatsoever they give up all rights whether they are a naturally born citizen or not and should be dealt with accordingly. The excuse that "they have not done anything" yet is no longer a valid excuse, when will we wake up!!! This guy was a known threat and our government supposedly knows there are several thousand more just like him in this country right now. Since when do we give terrorist rights above law abiding citizens, these terrorists are enemy combatants whether they have carried out an act "yet" or not. Round them up and deal with them now or we will continue having these nightmares over and over. This is not a gun ownership issue, my point was obama used this to twist the empathy and sympathy and further his agenda rather than to address the real problem. Look at what has happened without guns, from pressure cookers turned into bombs to sword wielding nutcases; only way to stop them is not to attempt to disarm the public but rather to take the fight directly to the enemy, of course that would require obama to admit his prior and continuing failures and call this what it really is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 I wasn't surprised at all by what he said. He really didn't say much of anything except it was an act of hate & terror. Then he couldn't resist bashing guns, even though this terrorist had a permit to acquire weapons since he was a security guard. I expect he'll have more to say about his anti-gun agenda soon. Just my $0.02 but a lot more radical measures need to be implemented by the FBI & Office of Homeland Security to weed out these radicals. There's so much waste in government spending going toward useless things that could be directed toward homeland security measures. That's where the focus should be rather than towards promoting an anti-gun agenda. Thoughts & prayers for all the families and friends of the people that were killed and wounded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 I m with you William, exactly right, they are here and cant be dealt with like they have the rights we do and share, because THEY DONT! This administration is responsible for not DEALING WITH THEM! And Lord knows how many came across our southern boarder, if thats not enough, the Left want to let them in from Syria by the thousands..Lets not mention how many we "let go" from GITMO! Ya, that will make them like us more. Yes Will, the left will always use any attack to further the gun ban, and disarm private citizens. Hillary is right in there leading the way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted June 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 I wasn't surprised at all by what he said. He really didn't say much of anything except it was an act of hate & terror. Then he couldn't resist bashing guns, even though this terrorist had a permit to acquire weapons since he was a security guard. I expect he'll have more to say about his anti-gun agenda soon. Just my $0.02 but a lot more radical measures need to be implemented by the FBI & Office of Homeland Security to weed out these radicals. There's so much waste in government spending going toward useless things that could be directed toward homeland security measures. That's where the focus should be rather than towards promoting an anti-gun agenda. Thoughts & prayers for all the families and friends of the people that were killed and wounded. Don't know what the dhs even does anymore Al, like you say with gov't is an abundance of waste, it is infuriating especially when the end result is loss of innocent human lives. Maybe I am having some issues with "oldtimers" but thought with the initial creation of homeland one of the primary purposes was to streamline the information sharing process between federal and all lea's. Ball was dropped here in a big way. And yes, continued prayers for all those involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im your huckleberry Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Deepest Sympathy to the Families of the victims. I feel sorry for the law abiding firearms owners. This kind of reminds me of the Poly Technique shooting when Marc Lepine shot about 28 engineering students, our firearms laws before that were very similar to yours, now we can't have more than a 5 shot mag. just hope your administration deals with the radicals first and has some consideration for the law abiding firearms owners and leaves them out of it. i don't support the LGBT views, but leave them alone they don't hurt anyone let them have the week to celebrate. As for the shooter, imo when they have contact with a radical movement they should be hunted down, detained and back to your country of origin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Since he was on watch list twice in past years, why did he not pop up again when he went to purchase weapons??? All kinds of RED FLAGS should have been going off!! What kind of Bozo's we got running this ?? With all the Muslims we got embedded now in our Government at all levels, this dont surprise me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted June 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Since he was on watch list twice in past years, why did he not pop up again when he went to purchase weapons??? All kinds of RED FLAGS should have been going off!! What kind of Bozo's we got running this ?? With all the Muslims we got embedded now in our Government at all levels, this dont surprise me. According to the media he was an armed security guard and had his concealed carry. Evidently he was bad enough that he had coworkers turn him in as a threat and that was at least one of the fbi incidents. Fox had one of his coworkers on the phone last night, the guy quit his job because he felt concerned for his family. So this admin has put out commercials telling us to call in suspicious activity and people do call in only to have it turn into this? The technology is there to find them, only a matter of appropriately dealing with them before letting them do this type thing. And to say they couldn't have known an isis sympathist would do such a thing, just what do they think isis wants.... Nothing but poor excuses and lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) Will ,move this to Pol. room if you need to, think it fits here. TRUMP pretty much nailed it today; go to 11 minute mark and start listening Edited June 14, 2016 by Mathews XT Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) The man at the (22 minute mark), of this clip had some remarks about the current atmosphere in Washington. Wish Megan would have shut her pie hole and let him talk, ( I got so angry at her I shut tv off),...he knows more than he can tell us. Now at 26 minutes a commercial pops up so conveinently just when he mentions Uma Aberdeens name, cancel it out and continue to listen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EppDCL-wIOg Edited June 15, 2016 by Mathews XT Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ODH Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 The man at the (22 minute mark), of this clip had some remarks about the current atmosphere in Washington. Wish Megan would have shut her pie hole and let him talk, ( I got so angry at her I shut tv off),...he knows more than he can tell us. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EppDCL-wIOg He defiently does. You could tell the way he was talking. I wish the political correctness would stop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) Ok, on this one go to the 2 minute mark, when thats done ..... the big news is at 11;30 mark!!! 32 minute mark tells it like it is! commercial will pop here too; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlusSprDem4 Edited June 15, 2016 by Mathews XT Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) It's pretty plain to see this current administration, has done everything possible to ADVANCE the JIHADIST movement! since the slaughter in Orlando, our Muslim leader has brought in 500 refugees this week alone... http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/state-dept-syrian-refugee-admissions-increase-exponentially-over Edited June 19, 2016 by Mathews XT Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted June 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 We are weaker as a nation under this administration than we have probably ever been in my lifetime. obama has apologized to those who want to kill us, and used tragedies to push his agenda rather than consoling the families of those who lost loved ones. He has weakened relations with allies and allowed countries that hate us to further their nuclear ambitions. The world, particularly our enemies don't fear this country as the superpower they once were, but imo view us as a joke thanks in large part to obama's weakness. With some of what obama has had to say in the past about the UN and gun control, any legislation on that topic he may approve should be concerning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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