Orion_70 Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 http://www.local6.com/news/4313174/detail.html Senate Bill Would Allow Citizens to Kill Those Who Threaten Them POSTED: 10:02 pm EST March 23, 2005 TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- A bill permitting the use of deadly force during a home invasion or when an individual considers themselves threatened unanimously passed the Florida Senate on Wednesday. The measure (SB 436) would eliminate criminal penalties for an individual who uses deadly force as self-protection in his home or vehicle and other unspecified circumstances. The Senate passed the gun measure, supported by the National Rifle Association, on a 38-0 vote just moments after it defeated a proposal that might have cleared the way for Terri Schiavo's feeding tube to be reinserted. The open-ended language on the bill sponsored by Sen. Durell Peaden Jr. concerned some lawmakers. "Under the wording of this bill, somebody could go onto any of the streets and if they think somebody is walking toward them in a threatening fashion, they can pull out a gun and begin blasting away," said Sen. Steven Geller, D-Hallandale Beach, who sought unsuccessfully to amend the bill on Tuesday. "We're heading towards a Wild West mentality," Geller said. "I am concerned that you could literally have two guys standing on the street, both of them ready, the guns at their side, and then say 'Well the other guy threatened me so I pulled a gun and shot him in self defense.'" Peaden, R-Crestview, scoffed at the characterization. "You have to be within the confines of the dwelling as described in this bill," Peaden said during Wednesday's floor debate. "You just can't shoot anybody on the street and drag 'em in." Geller said he voted for the bill for political reasons. "We'd be seen as Democrats soft on crime," he said. A similar proposal (HB 249) was approved on an 8-2 vote Wednesday by the House Justice Council. Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Re: Florida finally getting smart I love Durrell Peaden. Glad I voted for him. Just an example of common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Re: Florida finally getting smart I could like that law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Re: Florida finally getting smart my kind of bill. of course, i would do that anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Schmeck Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Re: Florida finally getting smart Sounds like a constitutional right to me to begin with. Though it is nice to see some common sense for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Re: Florida finally getting smart Thought anyone already had the right to defend themself in their own home with use of deadly force if need be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Re: Florida finally getting smart Seems to me I remember when I was a kid in Florida that it was already legal to shoot someone in your home. I remember my grandfather saying that if they ran out of the house as he shot them he would drag them back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion_70 Posted March 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Re: Florida finally getting smart Yeah, I would only use the amount of force necessary to stop the threat (spoken like an ex cop ) I just like they added vehicle and other unspecified circumstances .. we had a shoot the carjacker law in La. because of the rampant carjackings, once they passed that law and a few got killed, carjackings plummetted.. Just got my cwp too, just in time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Re: Florida finally getting smart [ QUOTE ] Sounds like a constitutional right to me to begin with. Though it is nice to see some common sense for a change. [/ QUOTE ] I know that BEFORE this new law--- the intruder had to have a weapon. Now it doesn't matter??? Not sure!! Doesn't matter to me, you come in my house uninvited...you get shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 Re: Florida finally getting smart [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Sounds like a constitutional right to me to begin with. Though it is nice to see some common sense for a change. [/ QUOTE ] I know that BEFORE this new law--- the intruder had to have a weapon. Now it doesn't matter??? Not sure!! Doesn't matter to me, you come in my house uninvited...you get shot. [/ QUOTE ] Not so sure that is the case everywhere, however I do know that when we got robbed in Florida about 20 years ago the theives stole several guns including a loaded 45, which made the robbery armed robbery. I will say this, a thief or any intruder breaks in my house while I am home I will do whatever it takes to protect my family. I am not condioning illegal activity in any way, but when it comes to my families safety be it planting a "stolen" firearm in his hand after he is dead or whatever, if I have to I will. I am not going to take the chance the intruder does not have a weapon when it comes to my families safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 Re: Florida finally getting smart [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Sounds like a constitutional right to me to begin with. Though it is nice to see some common sense for a change. [/ QUOTE ] I know that BEFORE this new law--- the intruder had to have a weapon. Now it doesn't matter??? Not sure!! Doesn't matter to me, you come in my house uninvited...you get shot. [/ QUOTE ] Not so sure that is the case everywhere, however I do know that when we got robbed in Florida about 20 years ago the theives stole several guns including a loaded 45, which made the robbery armed robbery. I will say this, a thief or any intruder breaks in my house while I am home I will do whatever it takes to protect my family. I am not condioning illegal activity in any way, but when it comes to my families safety be it planting a "stolen" firearm in his hand after he is dead or whatever, if I have to I will. I am not going to take the chance the intruder does not have a weapon when it comes to my families safety. [/ QUOTE ] Agreed. my families safety is first, the law comes second. Enter my home un-invited and chances are you will be recieving a bullet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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