hangunnr Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 Went back to the range today with a better assortment of choke tubes in an effort to try to get the new Federal ammunition to pattern better. Came across a very interesting fact. I found that it shot markedly better from a clean barrel. The wads pictured show the difference in wad damage from a clean barrel (left) first shot to a dirty barrel (right)second shot. The pattern opened up considerably with the second shot. To give this ammo a chance it was run through chokes ranging from .670" up to .719". The best pattern was acheived with a Invector + (full choke) standard length tube with a .708" constriction. This pic is of the best pattern shot at 30yds. The 10 ring is 3" across. Pattern density is pretty good. More than enough to smoke any turkey it encounters. I feel this ammo would most likely shoot better from a barrel that isn't back bored. I think the less wad distortion before the wad leaves the barrel the better. I'm not gonna dump another $25 dollar box of this stuff to prove that though.......... hangunnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddhunter Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 Re: Fed. Flightcontrol revisited (pics) Thanks for the pics and info!!!! I was wondering about the chokes myself, I figured they would shoot better from a more open choke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Re: Fed. Flightcontrol revisited (pics) [ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Ya know.............most guys just use a turkey head target. [ QUOTE ] The best pattern was acheived with a Invector + (full choke) standard length tube with a .708" constriction. [/ QUOTE ] That's been the early and general consensus. The new Federals seem to respond better to less constriction. [ QUOTE ] I feel this ammo would most likely shoot better from a barrel that isn't back bored. [/ QUOTE ] I have some of both the lead and the Heavyweight stuff coming. I will be running it through a Winchester 1300, which is a standard bore 12 ga. We'll see how that goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hangunnr Posted March 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Re: Fed. Flightcontrol revisited (pics) "Ya know.............most guys just use a turkey head target. " I've run close to 80 rounds down range in the last 2 weeks. I ran out of turkey head targets a looooonnnnngggggg time ago..... hangunnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hangunnr Posted March 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Re: Fed. Flightcontrol revisited (pics) [ QUOTE ] Is there a heavyshot load with the flight control wad? [/ QUOTE ] Yep, these were the Heavyweight loads. Our local Gander Mountain is selling them for $25.99 per 10 rounds. I may still give the standard lead loads a run in the future. hangunnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gfourhunter Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Re: Fed. Flightcontrol revisited (pics) this is my pattern of fed flight controle wad 3 inch 2 oz #5 at 30 yards with a stock .665 rem super full with a 21 inch back bored bbl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddhunter Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Re: Fed. Flightcontrol revisited (pics) I e-mailed Federal and asked them what chokes they recomended for the flight control wads for turkey loads and they replied to use a .665 or .670 and not to use ported chokes with wad stopping capabilties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hangunnr Posted March 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Re: Fed. Flightcontrol revisited (pics) [ QUOTE ] this is my pattern of fed flight controle wad 3 inch 2 oz #5 at 30 yards with a stock .665 rem super full with a 21 inch back bored bbl. [/ QUOTE ] That's one of the best patterns I've ever seen. What do the patterns look like at 40yds? I've got one of the 21" remmy barrels. I'm gonna run some of the lead loads this weekend if I can get out. hangunnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hangunnr Posted March 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Re: Fed. Flightcontrol revisited (pics) [ QUOTE ] handgunnr, i recovered all eight wads i shot using flight control lead shells and none of them looked like the second one in your picture. they all looked like the first one. this was in an 835. wonder what the difference is? h.h. [/ QUOTE ] Don't know exactly why they look like that out of my gun. These weren't shot out of a ported tube, just a standard full choke. I can only imagine how they would shred out of a wad stripper type choke..... hangunnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigblueraptor Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Re: Fed. Flightcontrol revisited (pics) i still have two boxes of the federal grand slams from last year they are rebuffered and usually put around 130-140 in a 12" circle at 40 yds. may have to try the new fed's soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gfourhunter Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Re: Fed. Flightcontrol revisited (pics) hangunner, i dont have a 40 yard pic but i do have a 50 yard pic. same shell and gun. shot high problem fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullfan Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Re: Fed. Flightcontrol revisited (pics) hangunnr, after seeing this post I went to my range to recovered my wads. I shot one of the Fed lead 3 1/2 #5 with the flightcontrol wads, and one of the heviweight 3 1/2 #5. Neither of the wads are as dirty as yours. My second is a tad bit dark, but nothing like yours. On the base of the wads there is a # 21 ans a # 6, are yours like that ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gfourhunter Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 Re: Fed. Flightcontrol revisited (pics) none of my wads look like that . maybe the gasses are leaking out on acount of your 10 gauge boar. rember the wad is a 12 gauge size wad not 10 gauge on the 835. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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