Ravin R10 man Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Re: Why go to church? born and we die, just like any other animal. It's wishful thinking that we continue when the heart stops beating. Live now and be thankful. Now thats wishful thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Re: Why go to church? [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] My own interpretations and faith and trust in God that he is leading me in the right direction. I pray for his guidance, not the guidance of man. [/ QUOTE ] So if I follow you then your problem is more with other's interpretations of scripture rather than the scripture itself right? [/ QUOTE ] Not just with the interpretations of scriptures themselves, but also with what may be added or taken away to meet the needs of any given church by a man or men. Those ideals of man can easily be misconstrued by people as being the "word of God", which in many cases I have found not to be so. I still believe as is obvious do some others that a church building is not needed to display your faith and trust in God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10acboy Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Re: Why go to church? [ QUOTE ] Have not gone to a church building in a couple years. Hate to say it, but there is too much hipocrasy in my opinion in the churches around here. [/ QUOTE ] Amen brother! Should I go more? Probably. Why I don't go more? I have 100 reasons and none of them are justifiable. I feel that I am on the right side of the fence, I live my life to the best of my abilities, say my prayers and teach my children as much as I can. I give him praises every day for everything that he has blessed me with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Re: Why go to church? I have heard many pros and many cons concerning the issue and I have stayed out about as long as I can. I appreciate the honesty of 10acboy, I think he said it best, "Should I go more? Probably. Why I don't go more? I have 100 reasons and none of them are justifiable".......most and I stress most reasons are not justifiable. I will tell you point blank why I go to church and it is for two reasons. First, because of the fellowship that I recieve. I know that there are hypocrites in the church, but there are hypocrites at work to, but we still go so that we can collect that paycheck! There are not perfect people at church or in the pulpit, but neither is anyone in this forum. Then lastly, but certainly not least, I go to church because of what the Lord did for me on Calvary. He gave His best for me, so the least that I can do is to give him at least 3 hours of my week in His house for worship. I know that I could do this at home, but personally I would rather do it in the house of the Lord. I don't do this because it is my job, but rather because I Love Him! That is just my .02 worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Re: Why go to church? Why go to church? Well, not sure if I can honestly answer that question. I guess I should go but I don't. I did try to find my family a church up here if you guys remember that post of mine a few months ago. But it seems like every church up here supports the gays and lesbians. Do I think you need to go to church to be a Christian?...certainly not! I guess what pushes me away from it is the fact that I would only keep doing what I did before I walked into the church. This is a situation I am working on though. My kids are the number one thing in my life (my wife says she should be first but I can't honestly put her ahead of my kids...she gets mad )...anyway, I want to do what is best for the kids. I think getting them into a church would help them..not that they are bad but I think they should be involved in more of a "Christian" family. We are working on it I need the help if anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Re: Why go to church? Thats interesting about your kids Mike, I remember a teacher I once had telling us "I told my Kids, I choose to spend the rest of my life with your mom, You guys just happened to be a bonus, but would choose her over you anyday of the week". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Re: Why go to church? You'd be surprised CH what a lot of parents think of their kids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Re: Why go to church? That is not at all surprising to me Aaron about what Mike says here. The kids are first no doubt. Think if when you have kids, you may better understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KSNimrod Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Re: Why go to church? TreeStandBowHunter, where are you currently living at? I've got friends scattered throughout the country that may be able to recommend a church to you that's on the ball. I too think that your kids will benefit from both the interaction with believers and from watching your responses as well. You may be the one who teaches them that not everything that everybody in church says is the best. or even true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest andymansavage Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Re: Why go to church? "I told my Kids, I choose to spend the rest of my life with your mom, You guys just happened to be a bonus, but would choose her over you anyday of the week". Why casteration is a good idea. Even if you think it, why say it? My reason for going to church (it's just too bad I'm in a cult...lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Re: Why go to church? [ QUOTE ] Why go to church? Well, not sure if I can honestly answer that question. I guess I should go but I don't. I did try to find my family a church up here if you guys remember that post of mine a few months ago. But it seems like every church up here supports the gays and lesbians. Do I think you need to go to church to be a Christian?...certainly not! I guess what pushes me away from it is the fact that I would only keep doing what I did before I walked into the church. This is a situation I am working on though. My kids are the number one thing in my life (my wife says she should be first but I can't honestly put her ahead of my kids...she gets mad )...anyway, I want to do what is best for the kids. I think getting them into a church would help them..not that they are bad but I think they should be involved in more of a "Christian" family. We are working on it I need the help if anything [/ QUOTE ] Put the kids before the spouse, huh? Me too. Probably until puberty hits and they get attitudes. Nah, I love 'em to death. Johnny knows I would have to let go of his hand though, if they were all hanging off the side of a cliff. LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Re: Why go to church? [ QUOTE ] Probably until puberty hits and they get attitudes. : [/ QUOTE ] Well the puberty didn't hit yet but the attitudes sure have been hitting for a while now We are getting too off track here so I am making another post about this topic. I would love to hear what other people in here say about a situation like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierbuck Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Re: Why go to church? Sounds like some folks are too lazy to get out the door on Sunday morning and come up with the same old excuses that pass the buck onto others... I coulda bet large $$ someone would recycle the old "churches are full of hypocrites" line. The dark prince isn't much on originality, but he seems to ascribe to the theory that if someone hears something enough they will start to believe it. Or if it fits nicely with their little picture of the way they want the world to be... HB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Re: Why go to church? [ QUOTE ] Sounds like some folks are too lazy to get out the door on Sunday morning and come up with the same old excuses that pass the buck onto others... I coulda bet large $$ someone would recycle the old "churches are full of hypocrites" line. The dark prince isn't much on originality, but he seems to ascribe to the theory that if someone hears something enough they will start to believe it. Or if it fits nicely with their little picture of the way they want the world to be... HB [/ QUOTE ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Re: Why go to church? I don't know...Ya got me MIke ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Re: Why go to church? [ QUOTE ] Sounds like some folks are too lazy to get out the door on Sunday morning and come up with the same old excuses that pass the buck onto others... I coulda bet large $$ someone would recycle the old "churches are full of hypocrites" line. The dark prince isn't much on originality, but he seems to ascribe to the theory that if someone hears something enough they will start to believe it. Or if it fits nicely with their little picture of the way they want the world to be... HB [/ QUOTE ] Apparently everyone you go to church with, including yourself, practice what they preach. Myself, I got tired of seeing people act one way in church and another unexpected way outside the church walls. Congratulations to you for going to a perfect church and being better than everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierbuck Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 Re: Why go to church? No, I'm more of a slug than 1/2 the rest of the world, for sure. That doesn't mean I shouldn't try. I'm not even close to perfect, but I am forgiven. If all you see is a finger pointing at you, maybe it's your perspective that needs fixing. HB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted April 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 Re: Why go to church? My church isn't full of hipocrites, but there are a lot of them. It's up to us perfect people to go to church every time the door opens to make the persentige of hipocrites go down. That's sarcasm by the way. Every place has hipocrites. But there is no better place to teach your kids and yourself right from wrong. You learn what you see and hear every day. If that's the junk you see on tv, then you excpet it as truth. If it's the word of God, then you except that as the truth. It's up to parents to control the "truth" that thier kids learn. I prefer my kids learn the real stuff at church. Not from, Opra, Jerry, Ellen, ect.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 Re: Why go to church? [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Sounds like some folks are too lazy to get out the door on Sunday morning and come up with the same old excuses that pass the buck onto others... I coulda bet large $$ someone would recycle the old "churches are full of hypocrites" line. The dark prince isn't much on originality, but he seems to ascribe to the theory that if someone hears something enough they will start to believe it. Or if it fits nicely with their little picture of the way they want the world to be... HB [/ QUOTE ] Apparently everyone you go to church with, including yourself, practice what they preach. Myself, I got tired of seeing people act one way in church and another unexpected way outside the church walls. Congratulations to you for going to a perfect church and being better than everyone else. [/ QUOTE ] Yep, sad when people want nothing more than to gossip about everyone else and be snooty like they are better than anyone just because they are in good with the church due to their tithes. Maybe it is worse in small towns, here you see it in large churches and small churches both. I just dont have time for those type people, just dont care to be around that type of thing. Got plenty of time for God, being saved and accepting Jesus Christ as my saviour does not require me to sit in any building! Calling me or others lazy and saying they make excuses seems to lead way to making some sort of prejudged idea that you know those persons, while you know absolutely nothing about them. As for Johns comments about Oprah, Jerry, and Ellen, parents should be knowing what their children are watching in the first place. Those types of shows will not be on any TV in this house and just because you go to church does not mean your kids will not still get bad influences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierbuck Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 Re: Why go to church? Who said anything about tithes or being in good with the church? I made no comparison between myself and anyone else. Whether I am the preacher or the C&E (Christmas and Easter) church member, I have not said, and it does not matter. Sure seems like a sore spot for some guys, tough. I think that it means that guys know what's right, feel bad about not doing it, and want other guys to pat them on the back and tell them it's OK. When a guy makes a post asking opinions, are we only supposed to post if we agree? Are we only supposed to post politically correct opinions? I bet a lot of guys around here pride themselves on NOT being p/c, yet that is exactly the tone of this thread...can you get more liberal than the whole, "do whatever makes you feel good" attitude? Pick a position and defend it. If you can't maybe you should re-examine that position. If you don't care to hear other's opinions or it makes you upset, then either don't ask or don't read it. HB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KSNimrod Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 Re: Why go to church? According the accounts I find in scripture "the church" was intended to be more than just a once a week gathering in a building. It was about a community of believers and the people involved with them, be they family, friends or business contacts. We as Christians have done no favors for ourselves or our neighbors by letting it become an isolated moment or event rather than a lifestyle. If we lived the truth out everyday in the full view of those around us there would be little substance to the cry of "hypocrite!" so commonly heard. It's time for church with a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 Re: Why go to church? [ QUOTE ] Who said anything about tithes or being in good with the church? [/ QUOTE ] I did. I see it around here and I already elaborated on what I see happening here in previous replies. [ QUOTE ] Sure seems like a sore spot for some guys, tough [/ QUOTE ] Nope, just discussing my own opinions. Some on the other side of this issue might say your attitude might display what might appear as a sore spot. [ QUOTE ] When a guy makes a post asking opinions, are we only supposed to post if we agree? Are we only supposed to post politically correct opinions? [/ QUOTE ] Like it or not I give my honest opinions in here just like I would if I was talking to you face to face. You dont know me, I dont know you. Does not upset me in the least, just discussing a topic. I know I am being honest and I know where my heart is and really dont care if someone agrees with what I say or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horst Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 Re: Why go to church? [ QUOTE ] Posts: 26 Re: Why go to church? [Re: slugshooter] #630589 - 04/08/05 07:43 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply No, I'm more of a slug than 1/2 the rest of the world, for sure. That doesn't mean I shouldn't try. I'm not even close to perfect, but I am forgiven. If all you see is a finger pointing at you, maybe it's your perspective that needs fixing. HB [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Poster: Hoosierbuck Subject: Re: Why go to church? Who said anything about tithes or being in good with the church? I made no comparison between myself and anyone else. Whether I am the preacher or the C&E (Christmas and Easter) church member, I have not said, and it does not matter. Sure seems like a sore spot for some guys, tough. I think that it means that guys know what's right, feel bad about not doing it, and want other guys to pat them on the back and tell them it's OK. When a guy makes a post asking opinions, are we only supposed to post if we agree? Are we only supposed to post politically correct opinions? I bet a lot of guys around here pride themselves on NOT being p/c, yet that is exactly the tone of this thread...can you get more liberal than the whole, "do whatever makes you feel good" attitude? Pick a position and defend it. If you can't maybe you should re-examine that position. If you don't care to hear other's opinions or it makes you upset, then either don't ask or don't read it [/ QUOTE ] Boy somebodies got a pretty high opinion of themself.I love it when people make these Im right and you need to re-eximine your life posts.It really helps with other peoples perception of the church crowd.Thats the second post Ive run across in here in 2 days asking people to defend thier beliefs.Why, you aint nothing more to me than a bunch of words on my computer screen, what makes you think anyone should defend themselves to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierbuck Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Re: Why go to church? You know, you guys are right. It's 2005, do whatever makes you feel good and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. It occurs to me that discussing some things with some people is like trying to teach a pig to whistle, it just frustrates you, and annoys the pig. BTW, Horst, defending a position is the fundamental part of a civil debate. I was under the impression that's what we were trying to do here; throw out some ideas and positions, debate them, provoke thought, and maybe gain insight...guess not? Go forth and make meat, I'm done talking religion in this house. HB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntingInMaine Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Re: Why go to church? I may be wrong, but doesn't the bible say we should gather in his name, not that we have to go to church? Does it matter to Him if I get together with like minded people and celebrate him in my home, or do I have to go to church for Him to give me "credit". I don't think it matters, as long as I don't go day to day without connecting with God. I have never felt the same closeness to God in a church setting as I do when alone in nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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