PAbowhunter4life Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Here is how I feel....... There are a lot of high end bows today, almost every company makes a very good bow that can be considered high end. However, Mathews was ( and is) the cream of the crop, they paved the road to which all other bow companies followed behind. Bowtech has done a very good job of doing what Mathews did and they too are considered a top notch bow company. Basically what I am saying is that Mathews is always ahead of everyone else in technology. They do something, then a year later some other bow company copies it. This is the reason I feel they are the cream of the crop. They are leaders, not followers. As for warranties. With all do respect, your point is a little, well, stupid. Doesn;t matter about the quality of a bow or the expectations of it, SH*T happens. Would you buy a $60,000 car and say "No thanks, I don't need a warranty cause it's top of the line". I wouldn't, and I hope you wouldn't either. I have shot plenty of bows in my short 13 year archery career. I have shot Jennings, Bear, Diamond, Mountaineer, High Country, Pro Line & PSE. All bows did their job and performed very well. I never bought in to the Mathews hype which is why I have owned so many different bows. However, now after buying a Mathews and shooting her, I can honestly say that no other bow I have shot compares to it as far as overall smoothness and quietness goes, and I wish I would have jumped on the bandwagon earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig mack Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Re: high end bows Sound like you really like your PSE!!!! Everyone is different, its all personal preferance. So if someone knocks your PSE --- WHO CARES--- as long as you like it whats the big deal. I know alot of guys who shoot Hoyts and Bowtechs who say their bows are better than my Mathews, do you think I care, I let my shooting do the talking. Quit taking it personal. Its just like Chevy, Ford, And Dodge there is always going to be someone who is gonna say one is better than the other (actually Dodge is better)jk RELAX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAbowhunter4life Posted April 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Re: high end bows LMAO............ ummmm, I don't think you are the one that hit a nerve lol. Sounds to me like you are the one getting edgy. I was trying to refrain from slinging Bull at each other, but while we are here, explain this to me..... I owned a PSE Brute Force Maxis a few years back. One of the limbs ended up cracking for no apparent reason. Bow was well taken care of and never abused. Anywho, top limb cracked a year in to owner ship, went back to the local shop, said he'd contact PSE for me and be all squared away. Well, imagine my surprise when I came to pick the bow up and it cost me $150 for 2 new limbs. Apparently I had "misused" my bow, which caused the crack, so I wasn;t covered under the warranty. I sold the Proven Sucky Equipment 3 days later and bought a High Country that I never had a single problem with for the 5 years I owned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robk Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Re: high end bows i had shot pse for the last 20 years and have always said if there was another that tripped my trigger then i would try it and this year i am shooting a pearson pride. don'tr like mathews they make really nasty grips and there are a cou0ple more reasons i won't shoot a mathews and i have owned a hoyt or two but not for long. never got used tot he riser. up until this year i had shot a my first pse was a precision edge 5000 a unique and great shooting bow and when i bought my thunderbolt i sold my 5000 to a friend of mine who still has it. after the thunderbolts which i still have one in the family i went to the primos stl bows and then the ar37 first then went to the ar34 and found both of them to be excellent shooters this year i went tot he pearson pride and did soemthing i have only done once before on a bow tech mighty mite and i sold he mite in less than 2 weeks. just wasn't my cup of tea. and now i am shooting for pearson and shooting a great little bow with a lot of pop. it was designed by a guy who wanted a short axled bow it seems with a big bo feel and pearson made it and it does exavctly that the pride is a little screamer when ti comes to speed for a short bow at 32" axle legnth and has a generous 7.75" brace height and is quiet as a church mouse. really fun to shoot and easy to set up and make it happen for you. i am looking forward to hunting with it this year. so that is where i have been other than my traditional bows rob k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimT Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Re: high end bows Alot of people here do shoot Hoyt or Mathews. However alot dont, but seeing they are not the big two they get the least attention. I read posts here alot about other bows. Everyone here has their preference, just like you have yours. If your happy with your PSE then thats awsome. Dont hate me cause I feel the same way about my Hoyt. When I first started archery I was told to get a Hoyt so I did. It treated me well so I bought another one, and will continue to do so until they let me down is some way,not because someone else thinks I should do differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Re: high end bows Why wouldn't you put a warranty on something you just spent a lot of money for? There is always the chance that something could happen. Mathews has the best customer service by far. I'd tell you a story of how they helped us out during my brother's benefit, but I keep those details to myself. With Mathews, if something should go wrong, you know it will be taken care of and back in your hands in no time. I put a warranty on my digital camera and all my other expensive electronics. There is always the chance that something could happen. Did you doubt PSE's craftsmanship when you put the warranty on your bow? You put a warranty on your truck or car, don't you? I don't understand your post. You seem to think it isn't right for someone to put the warranty on a bow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedicast Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Re: high end bows If you like your PSE. thats great! Shoot it, enjoy it, be succesfull with it, and stop worrying about what everyone else shoots. Who cares? If it works for you, thats all that matters. As for striking a nerve, you are the one that seems to be getting riled up on the subject, not anyone else that has replied. You are acting like you have a chip on your shoulder because you don't shoot a, "High End Bow". Your words, not mine. As for the Mathews Warranty, I shoot a Mathews Outback. I am not the original owner. I am not the least bit worried about it. I take extremely good care of my bow. I knew the warranty deal when I bought it, and I never hesitated to buy the bow. I am not complaining about it, but I will agree with you, that it really doesn't make a whole lot of sense. They should make the warranty transferable. But if I was worried about that, I could have spent a little more money, and bought a brand new bow. No big deal. Bottom line...Enjoy what you shoot, and stop worrying about what everyone else shoots. This is an online forum, with a lot of members. You are going to get a lot of opinions, and you aren't going to agree with all of them. It's not worth losing sleep over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Re: high end bows Who cares what YOU shoot! As long as YOU like it! I recieved some good advise in here, and bought a bow that fit me, and felt good! Who cares? I dont! Buy what you like! Buy what you can afford! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanH Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Re: high end bows WHY is it all about Mathews and Hoyts? CAUSE THATS WHAT MOST PEOPLE SHOOT. I bet if you do a Poll on this site 80% people shoot Mathews, and Hoyts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Re: high end bows But who cares Ryan? It is what YOU like! I cant see this, one is better than the other! So what if one person likes something different! Sorry maybe I just need some sleep! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanH Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Re: high end bows [ QUOTE ] But who cares Ryan? It is what YOU like! I cant see this, one is better than the other! So what if one person likes something different! Sorry maybe I just need some sleep! [/ QUOTE ] NO NO i wasnt starting anything here! He asked WHY everyone talks about them! I was SAYING that MOST people SHOOT them! Thats why they are talked about THE MOST! I wasnt hear to strike any nerves guys! I was just tryin to awsner his ?! Sorry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
too_pointer Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Re: high end bows [ QUOTE ] As for warranties. With all do respect, your point is a little, well, stupid. [/ QUOTE ] That comment would set me off too. Every bow maker has it followers, if it didn't, it wouldn't be in bussness. My opinion, many feel the need to buy the most expensive gear they can, even if it isn't the best for them. I see this in the rifle, shotgun, and muzzleloader rooms also. It would take some of you quite a few years to catch up on my deer kills with a "cheaper" p.s.e. I think people get so hung up on names. Some want to be able to say they have a leupold scope, when alot of the times a cheaper scope will do the same for them Its all about your choice and what fits your needs and wallet. We will never get away from brand bashing in here, but we can be civil about it too_pointer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MizzouHunter6 Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Re: high end bows Most of the time I think we make a bigger deal out of this type of issue than it really is. A bow is a bow...Im pretty convinced a deer wont look up into a tree, snort , and remark "Wow , your bow isnt as nice as John Doe's down the river." Seriously fellas , shoot what works for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimT Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Re: high end bows I thought you were talking about high end bows,,,like not the enrty level ones... I do not buy anything based on the warrentee. I buy it on how the product fits my needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Re: high end bows I don't care what he shoots. I don't understand his point about the warranty. If a warranty is offered with anything that is expensive, why wouldn't you get the warranty? Do you prefer to pay for it if something should happen? It sounds to me like he is upset that Mathews has a warranty. Guess great customer service isn't something a company should have. Maybe I'm understanding the question wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antlers21 Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Re: high end bows I believe this posts opening line was about "top end" bows and what people refer to as top end. With all other points aside such as warranty and names and so forth. My opinion of a top end bow is the manufacturers best, top of the line bow. I feel every brand out there makes a top end bow. I am not taking sides but I have read through all the posts and the original post started out with hostility and that is not a good start to post concerning brands. Not a good start! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need2hunt Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Re: high end bows [ QUOTE ] I don't care what he shoots. I don't understand his point about the warranty. If a warranty is offered with anything that is expensive, why wouldn't you get the warranty? Do you prefer to pay for it if something should happen? It sounds to me like he is upset that Mathews has a warranty. Guess great customer service isn't something a company should have. Maybe I'm understanding the question wrong. [/ QUOTE ] Chrud his point is simply that pse has a warranty that is transferable to whoever owns the bow, Mathews warranty is for the original owner but is not transferable to a second hand owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtBowhunter Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Re: high end bows Guys, where as I appreciate a good bow debate as much as the next guy, let's knock it off with gettingaround the censor with the cute little * trick.......please edit your posts or PM the mod forthis room to do it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtBowhunter Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Re: high end bows [ QUOTE ] WHY is it all about Mathews and Hoyts? CAUSE THATS WHAT MOST PEOPLE SHOOT. I bet if you do a Poll on this site 80% people shoot Mathews, and Hoyts! [/ QUOTE ] And I bet I an outshoot most of them with my Renegade, LMAO Sorry couldn't resist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bowhunter2114 Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 Re: high end bows LMAO this is great I need some popcorn.... Hey guess what guys I shoot a High End bow (Parker Ultralite 31) "in my eyes" It truely is a bow of a lifetime... The warranty is lifetime on the original user... I NEVER plan on selling it ...even if I get another bow. I was shooting popcorn of a box this evening so go ahead and call my bow a piece of junk I wouldn't care cause I know I can shoot as good as you. This is how you should feel about things... If you shoot your bow and shoot it good then let them say whatever they want because when it comes down to the end result it is the shooter that does the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimT Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 Re: high end bows [ QUOTE ] And I bet I an outshoot most of them with my Renegade, LMAO Sorry couldn't resist. [/ QUOTE ] Bring it cupcake. lmao....Sorry. I could not resist...lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kracey Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 Re: high end bows I think what he means is all the hype people talk about mathews or hoyt, etc. being the best and so forth. That its seems like you could have a million dollar bow and people would still be saying oh my mathews better or my hoyt would out shoot yours anyday. Just gets old after awhile, my bow is a PSE Thunderbolt (399 total with everything) and my bow will shoot just fine (even though it looks like its from the stone age. haha so what!!) I dont really care who shoots what or whos bow was the most expensive. I guess people just get tired of hearing it. Im tired of hearing about gold tips myself, but hey if they work great for you thats great. But people just go on and on about it. But enough of my crap haha. Just thought I'd add something to this. Basically when it comes down to it, your gonna basically like whatever you are shooting and think its the best and suggest it to others and I guess if you have had great results and are very happy with it, its the right thing to do. Just my 2 cents on the matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedicast Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 Re: high end bows [ QUOTE ] Im tired of hearing about gold tips myself, but hey if they work great for you thats great. But people just go on and on about it. [/ QUOTE ] Well...people go on and on about goldtips for 2 reasons. 1 They are a great arrow. They have tighter tolerances than most other arrows costing twice as much. When it comes down to value, you can't come close to beating the quality for the price, and thats a fact. 2 The other reason there is so much about GT's here is that a lot of people shoot them, because of reason #1. Seems at least a couple times a month someone asks a question about carbon arrows. Of course a good portion of the people are gonna suggest GT's because thats what they shoot. If you don't like the GT's...thats fine. Shoot whatever you like to shoot, and don't read all the good thing everone says about Gold Tips if it bothers you so much. On any forum, when someone asks a question about different products you are gonna got a lot of different opinions. They are all just that, opinions. It doesn't make anyone right, or anyone wrong. As long as you are happy shooting what you shoot, I can't understand why everyone is so touchy about everyone elses opinions. We are all bow hunters. We all have a common goal. It is stupid to divide the sport by what bow you shoot, or what arrows you use. It just doesn't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antlers21 Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 Re: high end bows Amen tedicast!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kracey Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 Re: high end bows haha, I didnt know this was such a big deal. I just stated my opinion dont get all defensive Tedicast. All I said was I get tired of hearing the same old stuff. You dont need to defend why you and others shoot the Gold Tips or the stats of how many people shoot them. I really dont care at all, I was just saying I just get tired of heraing everyone say my product is better in general. My friend shoots GT's and we pick on each other about me shooting PSE Radial X-Weaves and him shooting the GT's. But we really dont care what the other one shoots. You all take this stuff to seriously and Broken arrow chill out man noone has said anything that bad to semi-freak out about. Lets just end this topic about whos is better or who doesnt like what. You all talk all you want about GT it isnt gonna be no hair off my butt. Maybe Ill buy some and join ya haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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