horst Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Just got done with a roof and things didnt go well.It was only 10 square of shingles, and the kid that lives there tore them off, carried the new ones up, and all I had to do was show up, tar paper it and shingle I thought,So I bid the roof at 500$ thinking it would take maybe two days tops.WRONG!! A garage had been added onto the house by the previous owner.The guy that did it apparently knew just enough to build the garage but had no idea how to attach the roofs .Not only did it leak badly, but after tearing it off we spent almost two days replacing plywood, taking pipes out of the roofs valley, and even changing the hips on the roof itself because where they came together thegarage sheeting stuck up 2 inches higher than the sheeting on the house instead of coming together evenly. Sad part is I been running into more and more of this type of thing lately.Everyone with a truck and a hammer suddenly thinks thier a carpenter.This particuliar contractor worked for a steel crew for a lot of years, and knew the basics of framing, he didnt know the difference between steel and wood framing apparently though, and this is the 3rd roof of his Ive had to fix or look at if your hiring something done please remember to ask for references or get someone with a good reputation, theres enough wannabe carpenters and fly by night outfits around to give us all a bad name.And its gonna cost you a lot more in the long run to have things re-done by a honest carpenter if hes gotta start all over by tearing someone elses work apart.Instead of the two days I had figured fr the job, it took 4 days and an extra guy to fix this mess.Sorry, it was a long day and I had to vent. To top it all off the little puke I shingled for wouldnt pay me when we were finished and told me to stop back in a week for a check, hope I can make this 1/8 tank of gas last that long because Im beyond broke at this point LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut_Buster Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Re: Beware of idiots jeez.. that guy sounds like an arse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun_300 Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Re: Beware of idiots sorry to hear about that horst. some people THINK they know what they're doing... my trade is the same. bad mechanics do crappy work and give all the good ones a bad name. i know the feeling. hope everything works out for ya man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisconsinboy Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Re: Beware of idiots two summers ago i was doing a roof with my uncle and we ran into big problems as well. first off there was 7 layers of shingles to be removed. the old boards on the roof were shot so we had to put plywood over the whole roof and then we had to build part of the roof so that it wouldnt leak into the house anymore and after what we thought would have taken us a week ended up being a month. it probably wouldnt have taken that long but we both had different jobs as well as the roofin job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reloader Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Re: Beware of idiots I hear ya Horst...Im in the middle of redoing my kitchen and it worked a lot the same way. Found more and more problems the further into the kitchen I got. Almost done now though...May have to post some before and after pics when Im done.. (I am a counselor now but paid my way through school doing everything from framing to cabinetry and custom furniture) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Re: Beware of idiots i've been a carpenter for 40 years. went to trade school, and learned. today, kids just buy tools and go to work. fact is, most simply don't know what they are doing. poor quality is the standard in todays housing. sorry you got caught horst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Re: Beware of idiots There are a lot of really lousy contractors out there, and some make a lot of money. Try to do what I can myself adn do it right the first time. Hope you get paid like you should have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntingInMaine Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Re: Beware of idiots Sorry to hear about that! My fiance is an independant contractor and is also running into a lot of the same problems. The construction field took off so fast and everyone wanted stuff built, so people who know very little decided to go into business for themselves. I guess the good thing is it makes new jobs for my other half to fix! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Re: Beware of idiots Yes he is an idiot! Just like at my place I had three guys come out for a siding job, none of them ever got back to me! Hey lets throw all of these idiots together on some island! Good luck getting your cash! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finn Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Re: Beware of idiots Reminds me of all the folks fleecing people here west of Chicago. Extreme prices for service and the quality stinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodge4x4 Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Re: Beware of idiots that sounds like a pain. from workin for my uncle and his 2 builiding and roofing and architect firms, i know what ya mean. a lot of people are stupid like that.....it always ticks me off. if you don't know how to do it, then don't! lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IADEERDUDE Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Re: Beware of idiots sorry to hear that horst....hope you get your money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshM Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Re: Beware of idiots hmmm...he does sound like a idiot...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhunter91 Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Re: Beware of idiots It's not illegal to be stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archerjg Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Re: Beware of idiots Sorry to hear about your problems. There are a lot of people who think that they know what they are doing and really don't. I have helped my dad fix houses that others have worked on and had no clue what they were doing. It took us a long time to fix the problems too. I hope that you get paid for your work. Archerjg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6sixpoint_nobrows Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Re: Beware of idiots jeeez i know exactly what ya mean, you tear into it thinkin you will mkae some fast money then one thing leads to another and you have everything tore up and its just a mess! just stay calm...lol..good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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