Squirrelhunter91 Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Last night my brother took his Hunter Ed course. During the class, the instructer, Stan Pascoo said a few very interesting comments. 1) He says that there are mountain lions in NY and the NYS DEC is just getting around to admitting to it. 2) He says that coydogs are real and are very dangerous. I had to bring up the topic of coydogs because when I took my class 2 years ago they were talking about it. A coydog is a mix between a domesticated dog that escaped or was released, accepted into the wild and bred with a coyote. 3) He also said that the wolves are beginning to come back in the Adirondacks. What is everyone's take on this situation? Here is what I say: 1) I believe there are mountain lions in NY. Where my dad and I hunt in Sullivan (3H) the locals say they have seen the lion a bunch of times 2) I never saw a coydog, but I still think it is possible that they exist. 3) I hope the wolves make a comeback in NY, but I am not near the Adirondacks so I have no knowledge of this at all.. Maybe someone from this region will give us their .02? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2labs Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Re: NYers-- interesting discussion As far as the wolves I dont accept the thought , reason being the deer have it rough enough up there also what few moose that are there would be in big trouble!!. I dont think they have put any wolves there yet? Heard talk a few yrs back no one wants them !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhunter91 Posted April 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Re: NYers-- interesting discussion 2labs, the DEC did not release the wolves, the wolves are migrating back in.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Re: NYers-- interesting discussion We have a whole bunch of wolves that we would like to share with anyone! They are killing elk calves and deer fawns right and left! Wonderful idea to re-introduce them when Clinton was playing with Monica! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Re: NYers-- interesting discussion Show this at your next class, Subject: Cougar in Hornell, NY Real Cougar in Hornell, NY Edna Kriner Kirby was at the hunting camp in Hornell NY the weekend of Jan. 24, the weekend we had the big snowstorm. She has cats and noticed something had been cleaning out all the food on the deck and in the storage shed. That Sunday a Rep from the DEC confirmed it was a Cougar. He said there is at least 10 cougars living between Hornell and Corning, NY. Each animal can roam a 100 sq mile area and usually stay clear of human activity; but in the winter, easy food will attract them. He noted this is VERY rare to have one at your door and stay there for 3 photos. This animal may be a problem one, he said. He also estimated the animal is over 200#? As for question #2, anything is possible but coyotes are more likely to kill a domestic dog then breed with it. I have seen hunting shows where they use house dogs as decoys. Question #3, read one of the latest issues of New York Outdoor News. There is a neat story about re-introducing wolves into NY. Happy Trails Ranger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Re: NYers-- interesting discussion CoyDogs, Cougars, and Wolves will get a full dose of SSS from me if I ever have a weapon when they are encountered....simple..them or me I'm choosing ME P.S. If I was Edna Kriner Kirby I would be replacing that full pane glass window door with something a little stronger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeygirl Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 Re: NYers-- interesting discussion My one rec professor at college, who hunts, teaches tracking, does outdoor survival and has a real love for the outdoors told us in a class about a year ago that he believed their were cougars in NY state but that the DEC kept quiet about it. I believe him though I hope I don't see one without a gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finn Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 Re: NYers-- interesting discussion Ranger, Those are great pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 Re: NYers-- interesting discussion Why would the DEC keep the existance of cougars a secret? I'm not sure that I really understand what motive they would have for denying the existance of another wildlife species. Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Re: NYers-- interesting discussion The DEC does not keep cougars a secret. That is just a myth. Back in Feb. when I went to my regional meeting the question of cougars was brought up. This is a shortened quote from region 6 DEC wildlife biologist Jim Farquar said, "I have no doubt there are cougars in New York. In fact I can go to Canada and buy a kit for the same price as a good puppy. The cougars that people see are someones pet that they could not handle any longer. Until there is a decent reproducing population the DEC will list them as native species." Ranger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Re: NYers-- interesting discussion let's face it. wolves and lions are whereever the food is. got deer? got lions. got wolves.(or, they are on their way!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhunter91 Posted April 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 Re: NYers-- interesting discussion Ranger Clay, I've seen those pics before. On the NAHC Bulletin Board. Whitetail Lady had them posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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