Guest antlers21 Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Just wanted some advice on ranging from a treestand. My Question is if I use a range finder on a deer and I am up at 18 feet high do I shoot for the exact distance the rangefinder says or not. I read that you have to aim low, I could use some help on this one please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Re: Ranging from a treestand??? Geuss what...If your in a treestand @ 18 or 30 feet high and the rangefinder says its 20 yards to the deer.....do you think it might be a good thing to shoot your 20 yd pin???? Seriously, I would shoot the distance your rangefinder says.....but I would not risk spooking deer off trying to use it at the last minute. Range surrounding trees to get an idea of your effective range in the area your hunting....shoot what you can shoot with accuracy and get the drag rope ready!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnatecsteve Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Re: Ranging from a treestand??? Obvoiusly you forgot one thing on your pre-season bow set-up. Adjusting your sights to shoot from an elevated stand!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Re: Ranging from a treestand??? With today's bows, the speed is fast enough that the one to two yard difference does not mean much. I take readings from my stand to ground and at the same height to the same trees. I have not seen but a couple yard difference. I have never set my pins different for shooting from an elevated stand. I have taken deer from 2 yards from my tree to 45 yards from my tree. Deer jumping the string has more to do with misses than the differences in distance between line of sight and gravity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Re: Ranging from a treestand??? I agree with AJ, I never move my sights from level shooting or treestand shooting. I hold my pin/sight right where I want to hit. Hasn't failed me yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnatecsteve Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Re: Ranging from a treestand??? WHAT?? When you're shooting from an elevated stand, there is less gravity force pulling the arrow, thus less drop...you'll hit high! To each his own I guess. I prefer to know EXACTLY where my arrow should hit rather than guessing on how much drop I will get when shooting downward. It's all a matter of physics.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finn Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Re: Ranging from a treestand??? I agree and shoot the same from treestands as I do from the ground. I never was much good in Physics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanH Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Re: Ranging from a treestand??? I shoot where ever my pin shows!! I dont not adjust or anything!!!! Just let her fly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigbuckmiddaugh Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Re: Ranging from a treestand??? I shoot a pendulum sight, so i don't worry about it,lol. I'm good out ot 40-45yds cause of speed of bow. I think this was never mentioned, but when people hunt of higher stands(like i do) you do tend to hit differently. Why: its your form, if you have good form, or something to tell you your out of form (NO peep) i would shoot what rangefinder says. People tend to point the bow and draw, thats when you miss! Now if you draw your bow straight out and bend with your body and keep form, you will be good! good luck mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Re: Ranging from a treestand??? gentleman, it's as simple as 8th grade math. A2+B2=C2 suppose you're 20 feet up in a tree, and you have a deer at 20 yards which is 60 feet. the distance to your deer would be 63.245553 feet, or roughly 21 yards. [ QUOTE ] WHAT?? When you're shooting from an elevated stand, there is less gravity force pulling the arrow, thus less drop...you'll hit high! [/ QUOTE ] with all due respect sir, gravity is a constant. agreed by shooting down your arrow will reach earth faster, but gravity still has the same effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rut-Nut Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Re: Ranging from a treestand??? [ QUOTE ] gentleman, it's as simple as 8th grade math. A2+B2=C2 suppose you're 20 feet up in a tree, and you have a deer at 20 yards which is 60 feet. the distance to your deer would be 63.245553 feet, or roughly 21 yards. [ QUOTE ] WHAT?? When you're shooting from an elevated stand, there is less gravity force pulling the arrow, thus less drop...you'll hit high! [/ QUOTE ] with all due respect sir, gravity is a constant. agreed by shooting down your arrow will reach earth faster, but gravity still has the same effect. [/ QUOTE ] I ain't never maid it passed the seventh graid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossman Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Re: Ranging from a treestand??? A basic Physics "vector course and relativity class" would do you well. There are many physical constants that do not change. Gravity is one of them. Your arrow will allways accelerate towards the center of earth as it will deccelarate away the same. Once it reaches it's terminal velocity, gravity is negligible. It should only make a big difference when you reach extaordinary heights in a tree, like 20 to 40 feet. I always aim an inch low when shooting from a tree stand. But like AJ said, with todays bow speeds it doesnt make too much of a difference. When you start thinking you can confuse youself. Just go with your instinct a shoot. Let the bow do it's job!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Re: Ranging from a treestand??? Pythagoras Thereom is good to use if you don't have a range finder. A(squared) + B(squared) equals C(squared). A range finder, however, will give you "C" without the thereom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiganbowhunter_SQ2 Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Re: Ranging from a treestand??? [ QUOTE ] Pythagoras Thereom is good to use if you don't have a range finder. A(squared) + B(squared) equals C(squared). A range finder, however, will give you "C" without the thereom. [/ QUOTE ] THAT WOULD BE..PYTHAGOREANS THEOREM ..BUT YEAH THAT WORKS...I USE THAT FORMULA ALL THE TIME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAbowhunter4life Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Re: Ranging from a treestand??? Well, I started hunting when I was 12, and I am 24 years old now, so I have 12 years under my belt. I am not an old expert by any means, but noone is. Anyway, when I was about 16 I started archery hunting very seriously, using normal clothes and using all the scent killer sprays and what not. I showered every morning with scent free soap, went the whole 9 yards, and was still getting busted by deer. At the age of 19 I decided that Scent Lok was worth a try. I still do the same religious process each time before I enter the field, store and wash clothes the same exact way, etc. However, since buying the suit I have not been winded by a single deer, 0, zilch. Big bucks, young bucks, old does & young does have all passed downwind of me, some have stayed and ate for an hour or so, and a few have even bedded down. This was not happening before I purchased the Scent Lok gear. It works, period, either that or all of the sudden every deer in PA has become stupid and doesn;t fear human scent anymore. Something tells me that if that was the case I'd have a lot of P&Y heads on my wall by now. Buy Scent Lok, you'll never regret it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Re: Ranging from a treestand??? [ QUOTE ] Well, I started hunting when I was 12, and I am 24 years old now, so I have 12 years under my belt. I am not an old expert by any means, but noone is. Anyway, when I was about 16 I started archery hunting very seriously, using normal clothes and using all the scent killer sprays and what not. I showered every morning with scent free soap, went the whole 9 yards, and was still getting busted by deer. At the age of 19 I decided that Scent Lok was worth a try. I still do the same religious process each time before I enter the field, store and wash clothes the same exact way, etc. However, since buying the suit I have not been winded by a single deer, 0, zilch. Big bucks, young bucks, old does & young does have all passed downwind of me, some have stayed and ate for an hour or so, and a few have even bedded down. This was not happening before I purchased the Scent Lok gear. It works, period, either that or all of the sudden every deer in PA has become stupid and doesn;t fear human scent anymore. Something tells me that if that was the case I'd have a lot of P&Y heads on my wall by now. Buy Scent Lok, you'll never regret it. [/ QUOTE ] welcome to the Twilight Zone gentleman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossman Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Re: Ranging from a treestand??? [ QUOTE ] Well, I started hunting when I was 12, and I am 24 years old now, so I have 12 years under my belt. I am not an old expert by any means, but noone is. Anyway, when I was about 16 I started archery hunting very seriously, using normal clothes and using all the scent killer sprays and what not. I showered every morning with scent free soap, went the whole 9 yards, and was still getting busted by deer. At the age of 19 I decided that Scent Lok was worth a try. I still do the same religious process each time before I enter the field, store and wash clothes the same exact way, etc. However, since buying the suit I have not been winded by a single deer, 0, zilch. Big bucks, young bucks, old does & young does have all passed downwind of me, some have stayed and ate for an hour or so, and a few have even bedded down. This was not happening before I purchased the Scent Lok gear. It works, period, either that or all of the sudden every deer in PA has become stupid and doesn;t fear human scent anymore. Something tells me that if that was the case I'd have a lot of P&Y heads on my wall by now. Buy Scent Lok, you'll never regret it. [/ QUOTE ] I had the impression of this post being about rangefinding from a tree stand, but I could be wrong!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rut-Nut Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Re: Ranging from a treestand??? Personally, I think Kerry is full of #$@%! DId you see him last night, supposedly goose HUNTING with his buddies. Funny, you heard shots and saw birds fall, but when he walked by the camera, he was not holding a bird! He claimed that they each had shot one bird. I think one of the other guys shot his bird and let him CLAIM it!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossySNPR Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Re: Ranging from a treestand??? Man, last weekend I shot at a soggy tree stump to range myself in and this tree stump looked so far away, I was just testing out. Let me tell you, I was looking for the drop, but when I got way down the hill to check, I hit my mark dead on. Just goes to show you that there is less pull from that elevation, shoot your 20 yd pin theres no mistaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Re: Ranging from a treestand??? So, what do you think the stump scored on the P&Y scale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Re: Ranging from a treestand??? [ QUOTE ] So, what do you think the stump scored on the P&Y scale? [/ QUOTE ] P&Y heck...it may be a Booner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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