oh no! what can I do!


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I was planing on borrowing a tiller and landscape rake from a friend to prep the field for my fall plot. well he called his father to find out when the tillerand rake would be avalible and where they were. well short story is the tractor atachments were sold frown.gif no bigie, just go to plan B. so I call the local rental co. and inquire about the tiller atachment. well they don't carry it any more due to it braking. they had a rake I could rent but would cost me 50.00 for a day. i don't even think it would do that well by it's self. so now on to plan C.

oh wate, there is no plan C frown.gif I don't know what to do now. I have talked to a few farmers that I know and no one wants to lend out a tiller/disk. or they only have HUGE stuff that wont fit the tractor. might have to buy something frown.gif realy did not want to have to do that. frown.gif

might have to bust butt and prep by hand.

Frank

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Are there other rental places in your area or in outlying towns? I live in a fairly rural area and can think of 4 or 5 rental places that have tillers within 15 miles of me. Check the yellow pages for rental places to see what is available. If you come up empty let me know and I'll put a post on Tractorbynet.com to see if anyone there is from your area and can help out.

You also might keep an eye on your local classifieds to see if there are any used tillers for sale. They are rare, but sometimes a person gets lucky.

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Frank---i guess you have a tractor. You might check out the King Kutter line of implements. The have some discs that are pretty reasonable---Tractor Supply Company carries their line. Since you're getting into food plotting you might as well buy a disc---you can do everything else by hand. You might also check out some used discs or go to a farm sale/auction--sometimes you can find some good deals at the auctions. I prefer my tiller but if I had to decide on a tiller or a disc I would pick a disc. I have one area that has a lot of rocks and I don't use my tiller on this area. Also for a new area that has never been works I also like to use the disc---just a little more versatile.

The other problem with borrowing is if you break it you have to either fix it or replace it.

Get the brush hog and at least mow it and spray it several times over the summer with roundup to keep the vegetation dead.

good luck

todd

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Frank---i guess you have a tractor. You might check out the King Kutter line of implements. The have some discs that are pretty reasonable---Tractor Supply Company carries their line.

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Ditto with Todd--again. grin.gif

I have a King Kutter 5' blade for my tractor. It's pretty good quality stuff. Not top of the line, but for part-time use, it works fine. My blade cost less than $200, and I'd bet the implement you're looking for might be worth just buying now.

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Check the local Pennysaver or Shopper. There is often a guy with a tractor and tiller who will come and do a great job of tilling the area. If the plot is small, it will be $50 or less.

Keep an eye on the newspaper for auctions. Mounted tillers sometimes come up for sale.

Good luck!

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Check the local Pennysaver or Shopper. There is often a guy with a tractor and tiller who will come and do a great job of tilling the area. If the plot is small, it will be $50 or less.

Keep an eye on the newspaper for auctions. Mounted tillers sometimes come up for sale.

Good luck!

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This is a great idea! There are people in my area that do this kind of work for next to nothing as well.

The only problem with this method is you may end up with the work done once and then what? You may want to look at it in a different way than you are now. Find someone who will do the work you want done and calculate the cost of that into how many times you could have it done...as compared to what it would cost to buy your own piece of equipement. You may find that for the price of having the work done a few times you could buy your own and do the work many times over.

Getting someone to do the work for you gets the job done once....but hiring the work out leaves nothing on the back of your tractor at the end of any day....thats my point.

I have a feeling that your food plot is going to be a long term thing....are you willing to pay someone else to do the work...Longterm?

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New is nice, but a new heavy disc is not going to be cheap and a good functional used piece of equipment can be bought for a fraction of what new costs. I prefer using something heavy enough to get the job done. Some of these new lightweight discs out there I have seen are not heavy enough in my opinion to break the ground without adding considerable weight to the disc.

The papers around here are a good source and there are some people who deal in used equipment from their homes, who sometimes run ads on equipment from time to time. Thrifty nickel, shoppers, and equipment trader magazines are also good sources for finding used equipment.

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I found an add for a forclosure auction on a lawn and garden store. they have listed a 3pt. hitch up for auction. I figure I should go and see what it looks like, how much it starts at and maybe I will jump on it. will also look into the penny saver.

EDIT: found the auction web page, here is a photo of the disk, what do you think? MVC-016E.JPG

it is an Independent Mfg Co. #20 disc, 3pt

what is the #20 for? will this work behind a 25-30 hp john deere?

Frank

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I just got off the phone with the auction co. the unit can be moved around vea. 1 person (pushing and pulling is my guess). they clame it is 5' long x 8' wide (don't realy see it by looking at the photo). and they say a TO-20 can handel it. any one know the diff. between the TO-20 and a new 25-30hp deere? will it work? guess I will have to get the traler hooked up to bring it home (should I get it!)

what would you go to price wise for it? 300?

Frank

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Frank, the picture looks like a lightweight 6' disk. It will work but you'll need to add weight and make several passes. A new one would run about $600. If you have a 25 to 30 hp Deere, you'll have no problem with both the disk and the extra weight.

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Frank--you should check out the prices for new ones before you go to the auction---try to find a dealer in your area that has the King Kutter line of implements. I also think 300 might be a little on the high side.

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doc, I called some local (well according to the kk webpage) dealers in Pa (tsc). they have them, but want 560+ for the smallest one! that is why I'm figuring 300 for a used one. I can go 300.00 max. on one. I sure hope the used one this weekend starts off low, and no one else wants it smile.gif

Frank

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$300 for that type disc is too high. I could pick one up like that around here for around half that. A TO-20 is about a 28 horse tractor if I am not mistaken, your John Deere should have no problem with a lightweight disc if the lift and hydraulic system works properly.

A new king cutter will probably run you about $1500. A howse is a little cheaper and a 6 ft like pictured new from northerntools.com you could get around $1200 I think. You might check out northern tool on new stuff just to get an idea. Here is a link to howse 6 ft disc new at northerntool.com

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thanks guys for the info. I wish I was in the midwest cause I could pick them up for a lot cheaper then here. what do you think about this 42" cultivator ? what is a sleeve hitch?

Frank

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Frank, that cultivator you listed is way to light. Honestly it would not last long, and probably would not break any unworked ground.

Northern does have some cheaper disks that are lighter weight, think there is a 5 ft. king kutter 3 pt. disc in there somewhere for around $599 new.

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I may just use the bucket teath on the tractor. that will brake things up a bit. all though, I won't be able to get a very smoth feld. how does that sound? another idea my neighbor had was he has a ridding mower with a ground airater (sp) and thatcher (sp) that might help to scrape up the ground. i just don't know if the mower can handel the terain.

Frank

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If it's a slash aerator it might work if you drag it around, and around, and around, and.......well, you get the idea. You'd have to drag it a lot, and probably have to put a ton of weight on it. If it's a core aerator, I wouldn't use it. A lot of your seed would drop down the holes and get buried too deep.

I don't think the de-thatcher would be stout enough.

Try this site:

http://www.kingkutter.com/WholeGood.asp?item=ATV%20Disc

Not top of the line stuff, but decent stuff. I have a King Kutter 5' blade for my tractor. It was less than $200 but it does the job just fine.

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