spyderpancake Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Man that was some wild racing today! Jimmie Johnson started a wreck for the third week in a row, at least he got caught up in the secong one. On the first one, he moved up right into Mike Wallace in the 4 car. Wiped out 25 cars and he got by unscathed. The second wreck wasn't as much his fault, but he did run into the wall and glanced back into Harvick. I liked Junior's description of the first wreck. "Some blue and silver car, I'm not sure who it was, came up and made contact with the 4 car and everybody started spinning" I know that it is just racing and everything, but it seems like JJ can't make contact without spinning someone else. I think all 3 DEI cars would have been top 10 if it weren't for that last wreck. Oh, well, next week they are at my track, Darlington, I can hear them from my house. I can't wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Re: The Big One(s) Oh no you didn't! Wait for Deldeer to come after you now! I did think it was great that he changed what happend in the second wreck after he saw the replay. But, I'm still not blaming him. At least a classy Hendrick driver won. Much rather see the 24 win than the 48, 5 or 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deldeer Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Re: The Big One(s) DUDE!!!!!!!!!......... what the HECK were you watching ????????......now,....what i saw was a chain reaction that happens at those restrictor plate tracks running 190mph just inches apart. the 42 got into the rear of 48 the same time 8 got into the 4 which caused a wobble, which caused a huge pile up!!!!....the guy in the "red car" who said a guy in a "blue & silver" car got into the 4 car is just as much to blame .......but it's hard to point fingers in that kind of situation, so i won't....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABuckSlayer Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Re: The Big One(s) Kinda hard for the 42 to get into the back of the 48 when he's in front of him. It was a racing thing just as much as the second one was but JJ is going to blame someone else for the wreck either way. Just like last week... it was the 20 fault that he got into the back of him. I lose more respect for JJ every week. I never thought I'd say this but I like JG over JJ and that's pretty bad for me because I surely don't like Gordon! Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedicast Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Re: The Big One(s) If anyone knows who caused that wreck, it was Mike Wallace in the #4 car. I just saw an interview with him on the Speed Channel, and he said that JJ coming up the track caused that wreck. He never blamed "the guy in the red care behind him". He gave the exact same version of the story, that Jr. did during the red flag. But....these things do happen on the restrictor placte tracks. It's just the nature of the beast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyderpancake Posted May 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Re: The Big One(s) Man, I love it. I said in the other thread that I would start one about this, so I had to make it good. deldeer, aren't you getting tired of explaining all the racing incidents that JJ is involved in every week? Sure the red car was involved-he bump-drafted and the car in front of him went faster. the blue and silver ran into the side of the car beside him and wrecked him. I'm just pointing out the fact that in the last four weeks, in at least one accident JJ is involved, and he is usually the one who makes the contact. A lot of people hate Stewart b/c of the same thing. Except in his case the media pointed out that he was at fault but when JJ is involved they go out of their way to say that it wasn't his fault. Anyway, I'm leaving for Florida in the morning, I had to leave something for yall to talk about all week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Re: The Big One(s) [ QUOTE ] Kinda hard for the 42 to get into the back of the 48 when he's in front of him. Just like last week... it was the 20 fault that he got into the back of him. I lose more respect for JJ every week. I never thought I'd say this but I like JG over JJ and that's pretty bad for me because I surely don't like Gordon! [/ QUOTE ] I thought Vegas was what really made me not like JJ so much, but his attitude has. He pinned the blame on someone else until the interview clown (forget who) said "watch the replay." I've never heard the same person describe the same incident two different ways in 2 minutes. Didn't even mention he "could" have been at fault until he saw the replay. Too bad they didn't show him the replay of his wrecks in more interviews. I'm not going to blame anyone (publicly) though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedicast Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Re: The Big One(s) [ QUOTE ] Too bad they didn't show him the replay of his wrecks in more interviews. [/ QUOTE ] I think maybe thats Fox's plan. They did it to Nemejerk last night, and they did it too JJ today. I think it's a great idea....the footage doesn't lie! Especially if they wait untill after the driver gave his version to show the replay to prove him wrong, and watch the look on the drivers face!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisconsinboy Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Re: The Big One(s) i have to agree that JJ started both of the "big ones". i didnt really like to see jeff win. oh well good race though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Re: The Big One(s) [ QUOTE ] i didnt really like to see jeff win. [/ QUOTE ] LOL,,,, Don't look in the rear-view mirrors now boys but look who's on the move in the points standings and coming on strong.... As for JJ,,,I think I'm going to mimick Chrud on this one, and say nothing publicly.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Re: The Big One(s) Looked to me like the #48 and the #8 were "at fault" for the big one today. I say at fault in quotes because at 190 MPH, these cars don't handle like Cadillacs, all it takes is a change in airflow to upset a car, if Junior had been beside Mike Wallace and Jimmy was bump drafting, the same thing probably would have happened. And last I heard, Harvick hit the wall and slid over into Junior, of course, I have to watch the race on a 5.5 inch black and white TV in between answering a phone and waving in cars, so I tend to miss some things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisconsinboy Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Re: The Big One(s) [ QUOTE ] these cars don't handle like Cadillacs [/ QUOTE ] i have a cadillac!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyj987 Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Re: The Big One(s) At Talladega, it's usually pretty hard to blame one guy for something....I'd have to agree with what slugshooter said. The 8, 48, whatever car it doesn't matter in packs that tight going that fast. Talladega is Talladega...that's just the way it goes. Gotta give kudos to Joe Nemecheck though for taking responsibility for the wreck he caused in the Busch race. Back to the cup race...it was great to see Jeremy Mayfield with a top 5 and a top 10 from Ken Schrader and Jeff Burton. That #31 is really starting to come on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyderpancake Posted May 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Re: The Big One(s) [ QUOTE ] Don't look in the rear-view mirrors now boys but look who's on the move in the points standings and coming on strong.... [/ QUOTE ] Junior is blasting up thru the points-I'm glad you noticed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Re: The Big One(s) [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Don't look in the rear-view mirrors now boys but look who's on the move in the points standings and coming on strong.... [/ QUOTE ] Junior is blasting up thru the points-I'm glad you noticed! [/ QUOTE ] My thoughts exactly!!!!!!!!!! What I thought was interesting, in the first big wreck while Fox was trying to show it as Jr.s fault, they had 8 +/- different camera view's. The second big wreck where it looked like JJ got in the wall and came down to cause the wreck, they only have 2 different views and niether one conclusive. What about Harvick's in car, JJ's in car, Jr.s in car. Didn't see any of those, I wonder why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Re: The Big One(s) [ QUOTE ] And last I heard, Harvick hit the wall and slid over into Junior, of course, I have to watch the race on a 5.5 inch black and white TV in between answering a phone and waving in cars, so I tend to miss some things. [/ QUOTE ] JJ hit the wall, slammed into Harvick who ran into Junior and Truex. JJ said he was "crowded" before the replay, giving the idea that it was the 8 and 29's fault. But after the replay, JJ changed his tone pretty quick and said "well, I hit the wall". I guess he didn't expect to see the replay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Re: The Big One(s) Here is a quote from Kyle Busch, JJ's teammate. [ QUOTE ] It was definitely a good race going on," said Kyle Busch, who was one of three cars that didn't make it back to the track after the wreck. "I kind of hung back." Busch thought that Johnson drifted too high the track, but like most drivers, he had to watch the wreck via a TV replay. No one could see through the massive smoke generated by the spinning cars. "It looked like the 48 (Johnson) squeezed the 4 (Mike Wallace) up into towards the fence," Busch said. "The 8 (Dale Earnhardt Jr.) was behind him, nowhere to go." [/ QUOTE ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deldeer Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Re: The Big One(s) man.....i must have missed something ???!!!!!....i saw 8 get into the 4 about the same time the 42(i think) got into the 48, who slid up into the side of the 4 that was already loose because of the 8 bumping him....how that is JJ's fault is beyond me??!! it is restrictor plate racing....talk about not fessing up (JR)woops!!! didn't mean to say that!!!!!......i have come to the conclusion that JJ aint going to get a break on here though!!!!!!...i did say the hit on steward was handled all wrong last week....but to blame this on JJ is totally out of line .....just my take... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deldeer Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Re: The Big One(s) spyder were are you going in florida?????im leaving for disney on fri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Re: The Big One(s) [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Don't look in the rear-view mirrors now boys but look who's on the move in the points standings and coming on strong.... [/ QUOTE ] Junior is blasting up thru the points-I'm glad you noticed! [/ QUOTE ] Yeah but there's a big difference from 9th. (Jr) to 3rd. (Gordon) in the points standings... Tho I'm glad to see Jr's team start to turn it around and that could spell trouble for other teams in the real near future, just not too soon I hope.... , but it does make for some great racing....with Jr. in the mix in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 Re: The Big One(s) [ QUOTE ] 42(i think) got into the 48 [/ QUOTE ] The 42 was in front of JJ on his right side. How would making contact with JJ (turning left at this point) make JJ go to the right immedately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABuckSlayer Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 Re: The Big One(s) That's right Chrud... the 42 was in front of JJ. I think JJ was trying to get a suck off the 42 and came up not realizing the 4 was there. As much as I dislike JJ it was a racing deal. I don't think you can really blame anybody for it but JJ will blame somebody! I was happy to see him finally get a DNF! He hit the wall on the last wreck and can't blame anybody but himself for that. Nobody got into him but he hit the 29 when he came off the wall. Still just a racing deal though. He jacked up the 20 car last week and can't blame anyone for that but himself! Once he starts getting boooed like Kurt Busch he'll come around. I'll give him props for being a great driver but he needs to grow up! Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deldeer Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 Re: The Big One(s) i maybe wrong about the 42, but im not blind. you can clearly see JJ got loose (like he was hit from behind or the side)......http://www.news-record.com/sports/nascar/nascar_notes_050205.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deldeer Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 Re: The Big One(s) i will retract my statment about the 42, he did not get into JJ, & the 31 was behind JJ, but he did'nt touch him after watching the replays. but you could see JJ wobble then slide up the track, but you still can't blame JJ. if ANYONE is to blame it would be the 8.( he ran into my front like a woodpecker)...geez... but again i don't think you can blame anyone at a plate track....it's all most expected to happen.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 Re: The Big One(s) Yep, it would be alright to blame Junior. JJ had to part on slamming into Wallace and pinching him into the 10. It would be different if the 8 hit the 4 and he started spinning. But, the 8 hit the 4 and the 48 came up to block (I would guess that is what he was trying to do). That wreck was pretty much a racing incident. But, my problem with JJ from Dega was the second wreck HE started and tried to blame the 8 and 29. Glad the replay was there. But for the real big one, I won't blame anyone, publicly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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