TreeStandBowHunter Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Now with everything else, if you really wanted to do something, you could even if your shirt is tucked in. But I watched a short clip...which was actually a demonstration of a kid who wore baggy pants and a baggy shirt with it un-tucked. They showed how a kid could hide up to 10 pistols on-himself if he wore baggy pants and a baggy shirt that was un-tucked. I would support it in a heartbeat. The heck with kids freedoms, how about all the kids dying in schools. Not too mention it would probably cut off some of the teasing as well. I make my boys dress how I was made to dress. A motto my father always told me was "If you dress like a bum or a thug, you will most likley act like one...If you dress nicely, you will most likley act in a appropriate fashion. What do you guys think.....would you support it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Re: Mandatory-Shirts inside the pants for all schools I support it 100%. The schools around here have chosen uniforms for all grades. I like that even better. Keeps everyone equal and makes the rules easier to enforce. The kids still find ways to be trendy but it is only minor infractions of the regs. Elwood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Re: Mandatory-Shirts inside the pants for all schools Yep!!!!! Sure would because it would eliminate alot more than that. Around here when I was in school the cowboys kept snuff cans behind their belt buckle. But us smarter ones kept it tucked in our sock or top of our boots. Nasty Habit glad I quit!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntingInMaine Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Re: Mandatory-Shirts inside the pants for all schools I am against school uniforms, but I see nothing wrong with changes being made that will allow our children to be safer in school. I will be chaperoning an elementary school semi-formal next Friday and was recently given a list of things that can not be wore. All dresses/skirts need to be knee length, no spaghetti straps, if a dress has no straps a shawl or some sort of cover must be worn, for the boys their shirts need to be tucked in and they can't wear tee shirts. It is a shame that the school must be so involved in how a student dresses, especially in grammar school. My mother would still give me holy heck if I was wearing something she thought was too revealing. I was taught, as TSBH was, that you are judged and behave in a manner similar to your dress. I went to court yesterday and I didn't think twice about how I would dress, if you go to court you dress respectfully! I was wearing a modest blouse and business suit while surrounded by men in ripped and dirty jeans and a woman who looked like she was ready to go work the streets when she got done. How can you expect anyone to think of you as responsible and respectful if your dress doesn't convey this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Re: Mandatory-Shirts inside the pants for all schools [ QUOTE ] How can you expect anyone to think of you as responsible and respectful if your dress doesn't convey this? [/ QUOTE ] Think of what some of the things those people had done to be in that courtroom. Unfortunately, most people don't have any respect for the law, besides, the judge has probably seen them all before. As far as school uniforms. I support it, it'll cut down on the teasing and taunting, kids have enough to worry about without being ridiculed because they don't where 200 dollar sneakers and 100 dollar shirts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Re: Mandatory-Shirts inside the pants for all schools A dress code would also help keep the testosterone levels down among young men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted May 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Re: Mandatory-Shirts inside the pants for all schools [ QUOTE ] it'll cut down on the teasing and taunting, kids have enough to worry about without being ridiculed because they don't where 200 dollar sneakers and 100 dollar shirts. [/ QUOTE ] Yepper Slugo...that's what I am thinking too. If my boys think I am paying that they have another thought coming. The only "Cool" shoe that I ever remember my dad buying me was the Walter Payton sneakers that had the little pouch thing on the side. I think they were only like 40 dollars or something like that. My kids get nice sneakers and clothes too wear...but they get what I can afford. The part I think is funny is how some of these kids..AND ADULTS go out and buy a shirt for $150. Man I can get 3 SETS of clothes for that much. The only thing today that I will pay money for are running shoes. I run alot and I like my feet too much to have them get hurt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Re: Mandatory-Shirts inside the pants for all schools I would love school uniforms. For probibly 75% of the students here it would be of little consiquence for the rest, it would be a vast improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimT Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Re: Mandatory-Shirts inside the pants for all schools Thats one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. Making a kid tuck in his shirt? Dumb. I could hide several guns on me wearing jeans and a t-shirt. A couple in the back pack most kids use. Bla bla bla. Every kid should be able to dress how they want in school to a point. Everyones tastes and personalities are so dfferent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Re: Mandatory-Shirts inside the pants for all scho Define Baggy???? I mean really??? you say look at all the kids die'ing in schools well look at all the people dieing on the streets, maybe we should have a mandatory uniform for the entire nation. no way would i want to wear a uniform, I dress well for a reason,and did in high school as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Re: Mandatory-Shirts inside the pants for all scho I've got to vote on the side of a dress code. If nothing else, it helps teach them disipline. They might as well learn early that if you want to succeed in this world, you've got to learn to dress properly. The only career where the baggy pants and untucked tee shirts are proper is a rap "artist". And I use the term artist very loosely here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntingInMaine Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Re: Mandatory-Shirts inside the pants for all schools [ QUOTE ] Think of what some of the things those people had done to be in that courtroom. Unfortunately, most people don't have any respect for the law, besides, the judge has probably seen them all before. [/ QUOTE ] I am saying that you are judged by your appearance and it is important to make a good impression in certain situations, court being one of them. Just because someone has to go to court doesn't mean they have done anything wrong, no matter how they are dressed. I was there for a case and I haven't done a thing wrong nor am I being accused of it. People automatically think if you are in court you have done something wrong, all the more reason to not look like you just rolled out of bed or off the job site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Re: Mandatory-Shirts inside the pants for all schools I firmly believe in school uniforms. Kids are mean. Period. When you make them all dress the same, then no one knows who's parent's make the most money. No $200 Nikes. No Tommy Hilfiger. And it's easier on the parents who don't have to buy all the clothes come school time. I'd rather spend the $150.00 on the uniforms than $500.00-$700.00 on the "fashionable clothes". As for the baggy pants.....make 'em pull them up and tuck their shirts in...not just for the safety issue...but cause I'm tired of seeing their dang underwear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dg Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Re: Mandatory-Shirts inside the pants for all scho Our middle school has a dress code. I like it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Re: Mandatory-Shirts inside the pants for all scho A dress code and a uniform are two diffrent things, we had a dress code, I think teachers have a problem enforcing dress codes though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyderpancake Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Re: Mandatory-Shirts inside the pants for all scho We have a uniform at my Christian school. It is different every day of the week so there will be some variety. I like it. like huntin girl said, no one gets teased because their family can't afford to get a new wardrobe of this years 'in' clothes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted May 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 Re: Mandatory-Shirts inside the pants for all schools [ QUOTE ] Thats one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. Making a kid tuck in his shirt? Dumb. I could hide several guns on me wearing jeans and a t-shirt. A couple in the back pack most kids use. Bla bla bla. Every kid should be able to dress how they want in school to a point. Everyones tastes and personalities are so dfferent. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, hey over in Okinawa the Marine Corps put forth the Liberty Campaign. Every Marine going out in town has to have their shirt tucked in unless it is a sweatshirt or a jersey. They did that because young Marines were acting stupid and alot of it was because they were dressing like thugs. Since the liberty campaign been active, Marines are getting in less trouble over there. Geeeze, imagine that Hey, I wonder how it would work on 5-18yr olds Dress like a bum, act like a bum. Let them dress how they want when they are out of school if the parents don't care how they dress. While they are in school, they are there to learn, not to show off their fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 Re: Mandatory-Shirts inside the pants for all scho I would've been kicked out of school for my attire if there was a dress code that was at all strict. Regardless of the weather I wore skin tight jeans, metal band shirts (usually Testament, Slayer or Megadeth), combat boots and a black leather jacket. Most of my shirts would be deemed 'inapropriate' by most people's standards, especially the Slayer one with the crucified skeletal remains of a Nazi soldier. That was one of my favorites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dg Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 Re: Mandatory-Shirts inside the pants for all scho [ QUOTE ] A dress code and a uniform are two diffrent things, [/ QUOTE ] REALLY? Thanks for clearing that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyj987 Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 Re: Mandatory-Shirts inside the pants for all scho I support school uniforms as a way to combat gang colors, skimpy clothes, baggy jeans, and other clothes that are inappropriate. In high schools especially, the focus should be on learning and preparing kids for the real world--including teaching them that you'll have a hard time even getting a job at McDonald's if you dress like a thug or a harlot (think this word is LITTLE more classy than what I would normally use in conversation...lol). I do not think that school uniforms should be chosen with the intent to stop people from teasing others. Teasing is part of growing up--we all have teased and been teased. It builds character and helps to toughen kids up a bit. If you can't learn to handle being teased, how will you ever be able to handle a critical boss or professor in college? I think we're raising a generation of wimps who won't be able to handle competition, criticism, or fend for themselves in the real world. They also feel entitled to everything and do not understand the importance of hard work. As far as kids in schools having freedom, they should be kept on a short leash or so to speak. This push by the ACLU and other lefties for kids' rights is ridiculous. There's an age of majority for a reason. What's even worse are parents who are enablers. We had an incident in a small suburb a few years ago. A high school kid was having a party with alcohol, marijuana, and most likely underage sex. The cops were called and came out to bust the party. When they arrived, the kid refused to let them in. The cops, doing their duty, got into the house and busted the party. Instead of the parents thanking the cops, they chastised them. They intended to sue the city for violating their kid's privacy. Apparently, the parents of these kids at the party were most upset because some of the kids were athletes--and faced being suspended from sports for the year. TOUGH! Instead of blaming the city, they should have blamed the kids. Instead of giving little Johnny a beating like he deserved, they got him a lawyer. If someone is under 18 years of age, they should have no rights under the law, with the exception that they should have a right to food, clothing, shelter, a safe home, and education. Likewise, I feel that if you are old enough to pay taxes...and more importantly old enough to serve and die for your country, you should be free to do all things legal--including drink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horst Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 Re: Mandatory-Shirts inside the pants for all scho [ QUOTE ] Instead of giving little Johnny a beating like he deserved, they got him a lawyer. [/ QUOTE ] I raised a lotta **** when I was a kid.I remember dad telling me if I got arrested he wasnt bailing me out.Turns out he wasnt joking, first time i called him from jail instead of coming to get me he said see you tommorrow and left me sit Kids want rights, thats fine IMO.They wanna wear clothes that dont fit great.But when they do get in trouble they should be held accountable.A dress code isnt gonna change the fact that parents today dont have thier priorities straight.look at Marky's example, the kids are busted for underage drinking.Instead of worrying about the fact thier underage kids were having a party where drugs and alchohol were present they are worried about how its gonna affect the kids abitilty to play sports.Whats wrong with that picture?It hapens all the time, some spoiled little brat gets drunk and goes for a ride, kills someone else, and thier parents get em a high price lawyer.They get caught selling drugs mommy and daddy blame thier friends, school, everyone but the kid themselves.If they want treated like adults why not hold em accountable like we do adults, they get caught with a handgun, dont just suspend em, try em as adults on adult weapons charges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leatherneck Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 Re: Mandatory-Shirts inside the pants for all scho Kids need more DRUG problems. I had a drug problem when I was a kid, when I didn't want to get up and go to church, my Mom DRUG my butt up there anyway. When I sassed my Mother, my Dad DRUG my butt out to the barn and whipped it. When I did bad in school, my theacher DRUG my butt to the office and then the Principal whipped it, and then called my Dad and when I got home I got DRUG back out to the barn. I dont know about you, but I think that more kids today need more DRUG problems like I had. Those by far were the best DRUGS I ever had. And altough I know that I could probably be a better person, I aint half as bad as I could be if it were not for all of them DRUGS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 Re: Mandatory-Shirts inside the pants for all scho First off, I agree with Marky as far as holding kids accountable and such. A kid has no legal rights whatsoever until he is 18.period. Unfortunately, the parents allow their kids to act a certain way because they are more concerned about being their kids friend than their parent. I've been done with high school over 10 years now, and even back then kids were doing what they wanted, getting drunk almost every weekend, the parents had to know about it, because I find it hard to believe that these parents "go out of town" so much that these kids can throw weekend parties. As far as uniforms being punishment. They aren't going to be made to wear them outside of school. School is for learning, not for a hip hop fashion show, when the bell rings and they get home, if their parents want to allow them to dress like skanks and thugs, so be it, but they shouldn't be allowed to dress that way at school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted May 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 Re: Mandatory-Shirts inside the pants for all scho [ QUOTE ] School is for learning, not for a hip hop fashion show, when the bell rings and they get home, if their parents want to allow them to dress like skanks and thugs, so be it, but they shouldn't be allowed to dress that way at school. [/ QUOTE ] Hey we need one of those clapping hands Greamlins...Slugo needs an applause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 Re: Mandatory-Shirts inside the pants for all scho [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] School is for learning, not for a hip hop fashion show, when the bell rings and they get home, if their parents want to allow them to dress like skanks and thugs, so be it, but they shouldn't be allowed to dress that way at school. [/ QUOTE ] Hey we need one of those clapping hands Greamlins...Slugo needs an applause. [/ QUOTE ] I may be a left leaning democrat, but I get sick of hearing these kids talk about privacy and rights. I didn't have any rights when I was 15, except to go to school, do my homework, dress nice, treat adults and teachers with respect etc. etc. etc. I may agree with some things the ACLU fights for, but they need to back off when it comes to parents, kids and law enforecment. Let me tell you, when the day comes and I have a kid or kids. If they get into trouble with the law such as getting arrested, if I find a bag of pot in their room, or think they can go out on the weekends and get sloppy drunk, the only right they will have is to remain silent while I take a belt to their rear ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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