SaskMan Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Re: Abortion Clinic I'm kind of on the fence on this one but I kind of lean towards the pro choice.........hang me now. There is no excuse for someone to end up in the situation in the first place, it is the 21st century, education is everywhere yet still way too many people are stupid enough to make the gigantic mistake. STD's are passed on at a rediculous rate and just the same, education is everywhere, so are services, yet the mistakes keep being made. Where I lean towards the pro choice is that many of the people that are running into the problem in the first place are just kids themselves, too young, too immature, too selfish to raise children. Many of these poor children live a life hardly worth living and the vicious endless cycle continues, early pregnancy, drugs, alcohol, theft, poor parenting, it just goes on and on and on, in a vicious cycle. I know it seems like I'm all for murder which I'm not but in my eyes, an abortion in the early stages of a pregnancy is not. It is a terrible thing but far different from the taking of a life of someone who was walking, living, breathing, on the earth's surface. Sometimes, it is the best thing for all parties involved. Let me have it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParrotHead Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Re: Abortion Clinic [ QUOTE ] I am pro-choice through and through, but I don't agree with abortion as a method of birth control [/ QUOTE ] I have to laugh - this is such a typical liberal response. I'm for it and I'm against it - I'm guessing that you figure at some point in time you'll be right? And some of the other answers just boggle the mind. So just because someone doesn't have an abortion makes them a much better person than another? Come on folks - that's just not right. That equates to someone acting foolish while they're young and paying for it for the rest of their lives. Remember, the greatest thing ever received was forgiveness. Now I'm not condoning abortions - I have my beliefs and unless there is deadly consequences to having the birth I'm not in favor at all but ask yourself what you do - and for once be honest with yourself - If knowing your child were going to be born dead - are you willing to go through with the full term? Only someone that has a child can honestly answer that question because until you know the love you have for your child - you have no clue as to what real and true love is. Some of you need to take a back seat to judging what others do and look more closely at what you do because in the end, you're only accountable for what you've done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Re: Abortion Clinic [ QUOTE ] I am pro-choice through and through, but I don't agree with abortion as a method of birth control [/ QUOTE ] I have to laugh - this is such a typical liberal response. I'm for it and I'm against it - I'm guessing that you figure at some point in time you'll be right? [ QUOTE ] I have my beliefs and unless there is deadly consequences to having the birth I'm not in favor at all [/ QUOTE ] First off, I'm not surprised that out of all the responses in this thread, Parrothead picks out mine. But how is what I believe any different from what you said later on in your thread. Like I said, I am for abortion but I am against repeated abortions because some floozy can't keep her legs closed or some idiot isn't responsible enough to put a raincoat on. There are some people that are against abortions period, even if there is a medical emergency, some people think there she be free rein on abortions and that a 13 year old minor should be allowed to have an abortion without parental consent even though she couldn't go to the doctor for a head cold by herself. You and I have differing opinions on what is considered an acceptable abortion, but I guess that at some point in time you'll think you are right also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Re: Abortion Clinic Sounds pretty calus Ruby. I'd go along with your thinking if I thought mankind was an animal and not a special creation, fashioned in the image of God. And my belief that God put the animals here for , not only there beauty, for their purpose in nature, but for us to utilize as food. God didn't put us here for the animals to eat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZooBear Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Re: Abortion Clinic [ QUOTE ] I really came to believe after many years - that God doesn't outlaw things at random. He only is gonna outlaw them if their going to bring you mysery. Like gluttony (geeze, ever eat the chili dogs at the 7-11?) but I really, really can't wrap my mind around the idea that eating one too many cheese burgurs (and really enjoying it) is just exacly the same in His eyes as ... say... killing the old lady that lives down the street from you and dancing over her body as you chant - all hail satan! But maybe I'm just missing a piece of the puzzle? [/ QUOTE ] Ruby, you are OK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaskMan Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Re: Abortion Clinic [ QUOTE ] God didn't put us here for the animals to eat. [/ QUOTE ] Tell that to anyone in the history of time that has been devoured by an animal!!! Who says we supposed to be at the top of the food chain??? Is it in the bible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Re: Abortion Clinic [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] God didn't put us here for the animals to eat. [/ QUOTE ] Tell that to anyone in the history of time that has been devoured by an animal!!! Who says we supposed to be at the top of the food chain??? Is it in the bible? [/ QUOTE ] I thought it was. Did He not give Adam dominion over the animals???? I can't believe this topic has taken this turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaskMan Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Re: Abortion Clinic [ QUOTE ] Is it in the bible? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I thought it was. [/ QUOTE ] That is why I'm asking, I don't know!!! I hope you're not blaming me for this topic taking this turn, it started in this direction many post ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Re: Abortion Clinic [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Is it in the bible? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I thought it was. [/ QUOTE ] That is why I'm asking, I don't know!!! I hope you're not blaming me for this topic taking this turn, it started in this direction many post ago. [/ QUOTE ] YES IT IS. GENESIS 1;26. No, I'm not blaming anyone. Just think it's kinda weird how the subject has turned into this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted June 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Re: Abortion Clinic Yeah this sure has taken a turn hasn't it. I just should of came in here and asked "Yes or no for abortion" instead of saying "hey, I can't believe I just found out that there is an abortion clinic right over from where I work" like I did Some of you would fit right in up here in Massachusetts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Re: Abortion Clinic Ruby made the connection between the two topics ...LOL...blame Ruby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Re: Abortion Clinic Sorry saskman..I pressed the wrong button and posted in your post...LOL [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] God didn't put us here for the animals to eat. [/ QUOTE ] Tell that to anyone in the history of time that has been devoured by an animal!!! Who says we supposed to be at the top of the food chain??? Is it in the bible? [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Tell that to anyone in the history of time that has been devoured by an animal!!! Who says we supposed to be at the top of the food chain??? Is it in the bible? [/ QUOTE ] Genesis 1:27-31 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. To Noah, God gives a similar command after the Flood: So God blessed Noah and his sons, and said to them: "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth. And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be on every beast of the earth, on every bird of the air, on all that move on the earth, and on all the fish of the sea. They are given into your hand. (Genesis 9:1-2) There is a bit more to this story than what appears though. God wasn't telling man to go out and destroy the earth. Maybe this would be a good starter for another thread on stewartship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyderpancake Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 Re: Abortion Clinic My view on abortion-I am totally against it. In every case, except very rare instances where it is completely necessary for the survival of mother or child. What about rape, you say? Why should an innocent child be killed because of someone else's crime? Even though the mother may have no desire for a child, it is still not her right to end a life. The fact is, every baby has an eternal soul. They do not get this soul at birth. A person is formed at conception, not some blob of cells. At 10 weeks you can look at pictures and see that it is a human. I think every woman contemplating abortion should have to see a ultrasound of her baby and listen to it's heart beat. Abortion is murder, plain and simple. You are taking life from someone who would be born and become someone just as important as you are. What if your mother decided she had a mistake and decided to kill you before you were born? We have a sad society. Our government cares more about saving the whales than saving babies. Why does it count for 2 counts of murder to kill a woman who is pregnant but it is not murder for the woman to kill the baby? It just depends on if the woman thinks she wants the baby? Come on people. The next step in this cycle is euthanasia. OK, I'm done ranting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 Re: Abortion Clinic I agree spyderpancake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaskMan Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 Re: Abortion Clinic [ QUOTE ] The next step in this cycle is euthanasia [/ QUOTE ] Now I'll bet this opens another can of worms!!! I'm for it. If the time in my life comes where the end is inevitable and I'm living in pain and truly not enjoying any of my life no longer, I hope someone can help me. Yes it is my life and my choice and you can say what you want about me but I'm for euthenasia when used by people in terminal illnesses with support from their family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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