johnf Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 We are always hearing about terrorist from other countries going into Iraq to fight against the Americans. Is this a bad thing? As long as we are killing them there, they aren't comming here to fight. I say let 'em keep going to Iraq. If we're going to have to fight lets do it somewhere else where they're bombing someone elses stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Re: There are terrorist in Iraq I heard that too and today they were talking about all the millions, that Sadam hid out of the country, financing them. My first thought was ...YEAH, get em all together as a group ...sounds good to me. I'm still going with my first thought ...LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Re: There are terrorist in Iraq [ QUOTE ] I say let 'em keep going to Iraq. If we're going to have to fight lets do it somewhere else where they're bombing someone elses stuff. [/ QUOTE ] I'am not sure I understand what your saying here. Be careful what you say now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Re: There are terrorist in Iraq [ QUOTE ] where they're bombing someone elses stuff. [/ QUOTE ] Sorry Mike, I overlooked that last part. That ..."someone elses stuff." is American soldiers. and innocent Iraqi women and children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 Re: There are terrorist in Iraq [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] where they're bombing someone elses stuff. [/ QUOTE ] Sorry Mike, I overlooked that last part. That ..."someone elses stuff." is American soldiers. and innocent Iraqi women and children. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think that's what he meant to say, probably just worded it wrong or wasn't thinking too clearly. You know I sorta get jumpy on that stuff. HOWEVER, The As long as we are killing them there, they aren't comming here to fight comment is true. But then again, that is the point on the War on Terrorism!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 Re: There are terrorist in Iraq [ QUOTE ] As long as we are killing them there, they aren't comming here to fight comment is true. But then again, that is the point on the War on Terrorism!!! [/ QUOTE ] Dont know how anyone can not agree with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted October 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 Re: There are terrorist in Iraq [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I say let 'em keep going to Iraq. If we're going to have to fight lets do it somewhere else where they're bombing someone elses stuff. [/ QUOTE ] I'am not sure I understand what your saying here. Be careful what you say now! [/ QUOTE ] The point is, if we have to fight them, I would rather it be 8000 miles away, and I don't have to carry my shotgun to go to Wal-mart to buy my groceries. The point is my daughter has running water, electricity and doesn't know what a severed head, arm or disenbowelled body looks like and I'd like to keep it that way. If the terrorist want to fight it out with us, I say let them screw up their own peoples live and leave mine alone. Is that more clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 Re: There are terrorist in Iraq [ QUOTE ] I say let them screw up their own peoples live and leave mine alone. Is that more clear. [/ QUOTE ] Not really Are you saying our/your troops should just leave the people of Iraq alone and let these extremists have the upper hand again, like it was before. ??? That doesn't matter to you ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 Re: There are terrorist in Iraq [ QUOTE ] Is that more clear. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know, is it??? I mean I see your point on the "Keeping it over there" stuff your saying. Who in America in their right mind would want it any other way but that anyhow. But your saying to keep them going to Iraq and bombing other peoples stuff...But the problem is, the stuff they are bombing over there are US Troops and they are pouring into Iraq to get US Troops. You sorta sound like you could care less about that. I don't know, maybe your thinking that US Troops are expendable or something? You tell me! So I guess to answer your question...No, we are not crystal clear yet! But I am waiting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted October 24, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Re: There are terrorist in Iraq My point has nothing to do with the us troop safety. This is my point. We have chosen to be at war with terroism rather than keeping our heads in the sand like Kerry seems to want to do. In war people die: soldiers die and innocent people die. This is alwasys trajic. I have friends and former students in Iraq right now. I regularly pray for their safty, and am offended that someone would assume that I would not care for these peoples lives. The "stuff" I'm talking about is the basic intrastructure of the country. As long as they (terrorist) are focused on Iraq and security is up here, then would it not seem logical that we are safer here? It doesn't make any sence to me why a religious group would kill innocent people, especially their own people, to make a point. But they do it every day. Personally I would rather the horrors of war (if there must be a war) be somewhere else. Is that so bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Re: There are terrorist in Iraq [ QUOTE ] and am offended that someone would assume that I would not care for these peoples lives. [/ QUOTE ] Offended. Havn't you read the disclaimer yet I can only go by how you have your stuff worded. That's the reason I asked you to explain it because how you worded it in your original post was quite non-understandable to me anyway. I thought you were trying to be another seg Now, is that so bad now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Re: There are terrorist in Iraq [ QUOTE ] As long as we are killing them there, they aren't comming here to fight. Ok, I agree with that and already mentioned that I say let 'em keep going to Iraq. The more they go into Iraq, the more threat they are to US troops If we're going to have to fight lets do it somewhere else Again, I agree with that where they're bombing someone elses stuff. Pretty much the only thing they are bombing is US Troops [/ QUOTE ] Look at the bold typing above, I broke it down for you. If you need it more broken down, let me know. You see where I am getting at here. I know what he is saying but I think he could of re-worded it a little better. Being an Iraqi Vet, I was sorta disturbed by that, especially now that the attack tempo has kicked up a notch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Re: There are terrorist in Iraq [ QUOTE ] Offended. Havn't you read the disclaimer yet [/ QUOTE ] Gotta love ya bud. I'll leave this thread in your capable hands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Re: There are terrorist in Iraq [ QUOTE ] I'll leave this thread in your capable hands [/ QUOTE ] I might need supervised I am just trying to say, how he worded his original post and that's exactly what it sounded like to me. Some people may take that the wrong way. I bet if he had a child over there he wouldn't be saying that. I don't know about you Johnf, but the American Military wants them to stay out not go in. I agree with him for the most part, but the more they(the terrorists) pour into Iraq, the greater threat they are to us over there and the more they bomb over there, the more threat they are to us over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted October 24, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Re: There are terrorist in Iraq [ QUOTE ] I knew what he was saying from his first statement,he said nothing about it better to have our troops killed...period. he says(and I agree)its better to have the war there where they are blowing up and breaking things(buildings and "THINGS)than here on our land,fairly simple comment to understand.You guys might have been reading to much into it. [/ QUOTE ] Thank you, you are quite correct. jf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted October 24, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Re: There are terrorist in Iraq [ QUOTE ] [ the only thing they are bombing is US Troops [/ QUOTE ] Look at the bold typing above, I broke it down for you. If you need it more broken down, let me know. I know what he is saying but I think he could of re-worded it a liitle better. [/ QUOTE ] The news that I hear talks more about the Iraqi Army, police and civilians being attacked a lot more than American troops. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to see our guys hurt, killed or even put in harms why if any way possible. I may be wrong here, but I would guess the casualties of Iraqi women and children killed by terrorist would be higher then the American troops. Please feel free to correct that statment if I'm wrong. If you knew what I was saying why then would I need to reword it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Re: There are terrorist in Iraq [ QUOTE ] I may be wrong here, but I would guess the casualties of Iraqi women and children killed by terrorist would be higher then the American troops. Please feel free to correct that statment if I'm wrong. [/ QUOTE ] I'm sorry john, but now it sounds like your saying Iraqi women and children are more expendable, or more acceptable at being killed to you, for some reason. I know we must be frustrating the heck out of you, but I for one would like to understand exactly what your saying here as well. To assume (give you the benefit of the doubt) you are saying one thing and reading another, is difficult to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Re: There are terrorist in Iraq [ QUOTE ] The news that I hear talks more about the Iraqi Army, police and civilians being attacked a lot more than American troops. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to see our guys hurt, killed or even put in harms why if any way possible. I may be wrong here, but I would guess the casualties of Iraqi women and children killed by terrorist would be higher then the American troops. Please feel free to correct that statment if I'm wrong. If you knew what I was saying why then would I need to reword it? [/ QUOTE ] Man don't put me on the spot here man. Me and Buckee are on good terms now. Buckee is a good man with good morals unlike me. Now your gonna make me say something ignorant. BUT, in since you ask, I could give a rats butt about them. Even if they, as in the Iraqi civilians are getting bombed everyday I don't care. But one bombing a week on US troops is too much. IMO, their lives are more precious then them civilians over there. I just want you to understand what you said in your initial post. I don't want them (terrorists) to go into Iraq anymore. I don't want them (terrorists) to bomb anything else over there because our guys ARE THE TARGETS. Rather they get it every time or not they are still aimed at us. So like I said, if you had a son or daughter over there, I bet you wouldn't say "I say let 'em keep going to Iraq. If we're going to have to fight lets do it somewhere else where they're bombing someone elses stuff. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted October 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Re: There are terrorist in Iraq That was in responce to TSBH comment that seemed to me to say the only ones being targeted were US troops. My point was that those barbarians are basically senceless murderers with no reguard for even their own people, and in fact killing more of their own then their proclaimed enemy. Which only strengthens my veiw that you cannont trust them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted October 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Re: There are terrorist in Iraq My point is simple. Fact - We are at war with terrorist. Fact - In war civilians die. Yes I hold the lives of my frieds and familiy in higher reguard than strangers on the other side of the world. Sorry, that's just me. Fact - In war soldiers die. It's not something I take lightly. Every American life lost is a trajity. Fact - In a war stuff (buildings, roads, electric, water, gas, schools, buisnesses get distroid. Fact - Because of 911 and Iraqs potential for prolonging terrorist, ur nation chose to be in this war. If it must happen, I would rather it not be going on in my back yard. That's my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted October 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Re: There are terrorist in Iraq I say let 'em keep going to Iraq. If we're going to have to fight lets do it somewhere else where they're bombing someone elses stuff. [/b]" [/ QUOTE ] Are you glad you were not in the World Trade Center when it got hit? If so, why? That's my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Re: There are terrorist in Iraq [ QUOTE ] Are you glad you were not in the World Trade Center when it got hit? If so, why? [/ QUOTE ] Well I don't know, what do you think that answer is and why Look man, I just didn't like how you said about keep letting them go into Iraq and bombing over there. That's all. You and me actually think alike. I could care less about them either. After we leave over there, if that whole country goes up in smoke so be it. I know Soldiers die in war. I witnessed it. But I sure would never say to "let them keep going into Iraq and bomb their stuff" because that makes our job harder and more life threatning. That's the only thing I am saying. I know we need to keep the fight off our turf, I never argued that. Nevermind dude, their was something that I seen that I didn't like and I put it on the table. I never meant for this thing to go back and forth like a dang ping pong ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted October 26, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Re: There are terrorist in Iraq [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Are you glad you were not in the World Trade Center when it got hit? If so, why? [/ QUOTE ] Well I don't know, what do you think that answer is and why Look man, I just didn't like how you said about keep letting them go into Iraq and bombing over there. That's all. You and me actually think alike. I could care less about them either. After we leave over there, if that whole country goes up in smoke so be it. I know Soldiers die in war. I witnessed it. But I sure would never say to "let them keep going into Iraq and bomb their stuff" because that makes our job harder and more life threatning. That's the only thing I am saying. I know we need to keep the fight off our turf, I never argued that. Nevermind dude, their was something that I seen that I didn't like and I put it on the table. I never meant for this thing to go back and forth like a dang ping pong ball. [/ QUOTE ] Oh. OK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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