snapper Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 Just curious...how many states ask for your social sucurity number when buying a hunting lic.? And is it manitory to give it? I went yesterday to buy my new hunting lic. (PA hunting lic. are good from July 1st to June 30th). When I asked the guy at the counter if they got the new lic. he said yes...asked me what stamps I would need while he was digging out his book. Then he said he would need my drivers lic. as he opened the book...I handed my lic. and his very first question was..."Whats your SS#?" I refused to give it (they've asked before but wasn't required) and he said I have to give it. Its not manadory in PA to give your SS# to buy a hunting lic. I grabbed my driver lic. and walked away without buying my lic. I plan on calling the game comm. next week to find out if it is manatory and why. I'm going to have a problem if they say it is manatory...because I don't use my SS# for any form of ID. So does your state ask for it and do you give it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdoc Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 Re: Hunting lic. question my ss# use to be my DL # but I changed that last time I renewed my DL#. I haven't bought a license in 15 years since I have a life time so I don't know if they do here in Oklahoma or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedicast Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 Re: Hunting lic. question Connecticut does not ask for your SS# to get a huntig license or Deer/turkey tags. I wouldn't be too comfortable giving it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhunter91 Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 Re: Hunting lic. question I don't think NY does. I have a lifetime license also so I don't have to worry about license cost increases or anything ever again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7th Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 Re: Hunting lic. question I think Ohio has it on the strip on the back of you DL and State IDs so they don't have to ask, I talked to CO about hunting out there and they ask for it do to the dead beat dad thing and to see if you can have a lic to hunt with the weapon you are using or if they are in with a state that you lost your hunting rights in. There was last year about 15 states that CO was in a deal with that if you lost your hunting lic in any one of them you could not get a lic in any of them. So, this is something that could help keep some of the slobs from getting a lic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 Re: Hunting lic. question I'm sure they have it. In Ohio now, they swipe your driver's license to get any and all licenses and tags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckbuster11 Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 Re: Hunting lic. question I dont remember ever having to give my SS# before. Where did you try to buy the license at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reloader Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 Re: Hunting lic. question Nebraska asks for the last 4 digits but not the whole thing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
too_pointer Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 Re: Hunting lic. question No s.s in Mi. either. You have a driver liscence or a Mi. I.D. card, and you get it too_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodge4x4 Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 Re: Hunting lic. question mandatory.....im not sure...but ours in illinois asks for it and i just give it to em........but they do ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Hunting lic. question [ QUOTE ] Our state asks for it cause if you are a dead beat dad and have not paid child support and what not you don't get a hunting license...whew...divorced before children...no wonder everyone tells me I am lucky [/ QUOTE ] That would be a YES on both counts! LOL!!! I believe this is why PA is now asking for SS#! But, I think PA feels you can buy a hunting license, you can support your kids. But then they shouldn't be using your SS#. Drivers license number yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAbowhunter4life Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Hunting lic. question It was optional in PA before as I always opted not to give it, however, this year it is MANDATORY. The law pretaining to it is so vague that you really can't tell if it's violating your privacy or not. It's basically left open for courts to interpret, and we know they'll see it reasonable to catch all the dead beat dads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Hunting lic. question Have not bought my license the past few years, have hunted landowners. Do not remember though in the past ever having to give my social. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted July 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Hunting lic. question I figure it has something to do with the deadbeat dad thing also...but first off, I have no kids! Second, since when is it the PGC place to worry about this? They have a hard enough time managing wildlife...now they want to help manage humans? I'm sorta stuck...I don't like to give my SS# for anything, and I'm having a real hard time with this. The PGC has already lost alot of hunters with their deer programs...now it seems (at least with me) they may lost more lic. sales because of the SS# thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtBowhunter Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Hunting lic. question In Vermont they never bothered to ask for it until this year. Now it is manditory. If you decide not to give it to them then you don't get a license. I agree with you Gregg, why should the F&W Dept. be worrying about child dupport issues when they can't seem to get their own jobs done in a timely manner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Hunting lic. question Sad.......but true, Snap. If you ain't givng your SS# this year, you ain't getting a license. Kinda hard logic to figure out seeing as how the entire health care industry had to drop the SS# as an I.D. number for all enrollees last year because it invaded privacy. Where is the ACLU and the Democrat party (both advocates for the "little guy" and his rights ) on this one?? There is an official complaint line on this. Don't know if you can get it from a Wal-Mart or other big chain. But a local sporting goods shop oughta have it. Dunno if I'm buying a license this year or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Hunting lic. question Oh........yeah...............and how come they don't ask for your SS# when you go buy a 30-pack??? Which......by the way.......costs more than a PA hunting license. Probablly more deadbeat dads buying beer than hunting license, I'll bet. Who died and left the Game Commission in charge of child support?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Hunting lic. question How about women??? Do they have to give theirs, too?? What would be the reason for that?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Hunting lic. question Wonder if my 11 year old daughter will have to give her SS#???? Not much chance of her being a deadbeat dad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtBowhunter Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Hunting lic. question I'm beginning to wonder if they want your SSN as a means of tracking folks most likely to own guns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntingInMaine Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Hunting lic. question [ QUOTE ] How about women??? Do they have to give theirs, too?? What would be the reason for that?????? [/ QUOTE ] Yup, they have to give it too. I know a few deadbeat moms in situations where the children are in the father's custody. This type of parent knows no gender boundarys. Maine has the same sort of program where a non paying parent loses all of their licenses (drivers, hunting and fishing, contractor, ect.) if they go without paying support for more than a few months, but they don't ask for SS# so I am not sure how they track people... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted July 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Hunting lic. question [ QUOTE ] Dunno if I'm buying a license this year or not. [/ QUOTE ] I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who has issues with this "new" rule! Hunting would be one of the last things in my life that I want to give up...but I'm just not sure about the politics involved in it any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Hunting lic. question Well to answer your question snapper, we only give them our drivers license #. I don't understand the logic behind this new rule you have. With the electronic means they have to track down deadbeat dads these days there are far better ways to do it. Everyone that has a job in PA has to provide their employer their SS# don't they? Seems like they have opened up an opportunity for a lawyer to file a class action lawsuit about this issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted July 5, 2005 Report Share Posted July 5, 2005 Re: Hunting lic. question Here it is right here.........straight off of Big Brother's website. Hunting Licenses and Social Security Numbers Federal Law: Over the past few years, U.S. Congress has enacted a number of new laws to improve enforcement of child support obligations. As part of a broad "welfare reform" effort, the U.S. Government has required the states to implement new requirements to encourage payment of child support. States that fail to implement these requirements face possible loss of federal welfare funds. The "welfare reform" legislation contains hundreds of provisions. Out of this massive new law, a handful of new federal requirements affect purchasers and holders of recreational licenses, including hunting and fishing licenses. One provision requires states to deny hunting and fishing licenses to certain persons in arrears on child support when a court issues an order revoking or denying such licenses. Another requires government agencies to obtain Social Security numbers from applicants for recreational licenses, including hunting licenses. Pennsylvania Law: In 1997, the Pennsylvania General Assembly considered comprehensive legislation to implement the new federal requirements at the state level. Act 1997-58 was signed into law on December 16, 1997 and took effect January 1, 1998. This law addresses hundreds of issues; as with the federal law, a couple of provisions affect hunting license buyers. Section 2 of the Act amends 23 Pa.C.S. §4304.1 to require the Social Security numbers of applicants for various licenses, including hunting licenses. Section 9 of the Act amends 23 Pa.C.S. §4355 to provide for the denial or suspension of hunting licenses of persons three or more months in arrears on child support. The hunting privileges of such persons are suspended or denied only when a court issues an order requiring such action. If you have further questions, please contact the Bureau of Law Enforcement at (717) 783-6526. Offices are open Monday through Friday (except on State Holidays) 7:45 a.m. to 4:00 p.m Hmpf...........part of the Welfare Reform Act. Will Bill Clinton ever go away???? Vote Democrat!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckbuster11 Posted July 5, 2005 Report Share Posted July 5, 2005 Re: Hunting lic. question Now THAT is a load of bull right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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