ruttinbuc Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 I have had it with all of the hype and marketing of something so simple. I am officially boycotting all of those who have created the illusion that you have to have this and you have to have that in order to be a successful bow hunter. You look at all the magazines and televison shows and the ads are endless. Very little on the methods, but heavy on what YOU NEED! Where does it all stop? Are we being suckered by those in the business? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Had it with the hype! I see your point, but it depends on the person. I think there are certain people out there that do get suckered into these things. I try not too. If I have a bow in my hand some arrows in my quiver and great confidence in myself I know I'll be a successful hunter. JMO I have a lot of friends that buy a lot of gimmicks. And they are still buckless even deerless. Confidence in yourself and the equipment you already have is enough to become a successful hunter. That's JMO!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Had it with the hype! as a purchaser of many new items , i decide on what i need not by advertizing or marketing tactics.. i logically decide what i need and for what purpose and then get it.. but i am also set in my ways on some products.. if i have had good experiences in the past i will continue to buy them in the future and recommend them to orhter bowhunters... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Had it with the hype! [ QUOTE ] i logically decide what i need and for what purpose and then get it.. but i am also set in my ways on some products.. if i have had good experiences in the past i will continue to buy them in the future and recommend them to orhter bowhunters... [/ QUOTE ] I'm pretty much the same way. I might see something in an ad that interests me and I'll investigate it more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedicast Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Had it with the hype! Like with anything else that is advertised on TV, or in magazines today, you have to look past the glitz and glamour, and research the product. Be it a hunting related item, electronics, or automobiles. An advertisement is made to catch your eye, to make you think of the product, so you will remember it when you are shopping. Only you know what you really need. Do your research, figure out what is best for you, and ignore all the hype in advertising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Had it with the hype! "Very little on the methods, but heavy on what YOU NEED!" The reason you see those other people at all is a method(TV, DVD, Video, etc...) who's entire design is to sell you what you need(in their opinion). Alot of what I see happening is someone finds a need, or trys to create one, and trys to tell us that we need their product to cure that void. What do you really need to kill a deer with? Thats the question I ask myself...and the battle ground is who I allow to tell me the answer to that question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Had it with the hype! Unfortanely...the only thing you will buy then will be "how to books" and "how to video's". Everyone advertises...they have to. I find it very hard to believe that any and all equipment that someone uses was just bought at the moment...never heard or seen the product before and just bought it? I agree some companies take advertising a little too far...but I've bought some products that made certain parts of hunting much easier! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Had it with the hype! Hype advertizing is common-place for everything on the market today, from breadmakers to fancy cars. I find that most of the hyped up archery products, do pretty much what they say they'll do, but then so will the one you probibly already own. Every once in a while someone will actually come out with something good (like the Whisker Biscuit for example), but for the most part you can live without all these new products. Lets face it, you can't have them all on your bow...eh You just have to do your homework and decide for yourself if it's something you really need or whether it's really worth the switch for you personally, from what you are currently using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antlers21 Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Had it with the hype! I actually like the advertising. I dont run out and buy everything I see but at least I can see what is new and out there. Not all proshops carry everything you see on tv or mags. The ads are good but if you think that ever product they show will harvest you a trophy than you need a little therapy. he he! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Had it with the hype! [ QUOTE ] Are we being suckered by those in the business? [/ QUOTE ] Absolutely, but you know what P. T. Barnum said aboot suckers don't you? I try to employ the KISS method when it comes to hauling things into the woods. Unless I'm pretty sure the product will work, I boycott it. Have I been suckered, heck yeah, but I'm getting better at not getting suckered as I get older. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Had it with the hype! What I have right now, works. My only purchases are for replacement purposes only. I have gone through the gadget phase. It was fun, but expensive. With today's costs, I no longer have the luxury of experimentation or impulse buying, or being talked into something by some slick marketeer. Besides, if it ain't broke, why fix it? Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruttinbuc Posted July 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Had it with the hype! Yes, Chris, P T Barnum was right. I also learned to sort out the B.S. from the needs. My point to all of this is that the new season is upon us and already its overkill in the magazines and TV shows. Just once I'd like to read an article without having to dance around the advertising. To watch a hunting show with at least five minutes of continuous footage would be golden. A little hunting would be nice as well. Cripes, enough special effects already. You are right Doc, if it ain't broke why fix it. Somebody ought to tell Madison Avenue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robk Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Had it with the hype! there arre some items out there that just make no sense and then there is equipment out there that actually has some great idea that could make you a better archer. sometimes you try something just to see what it would do and it works and sometimes it is a flop. or i should say in your own eyes it is a flop or go go gadget and doesn't do it for you. sometimes the company will give you back your money and sometimes it is you bought it and no returns no matter what. buying off the internet can be a problem and other times it is smooth as a babies behind and everyone is happy. the way i see it is if i see something that interests me i usually email and talk to the people and if they are willing to talk to me and explain why their works and how it is supposed to h elp me the average joe and i like them i will get the product and if it doesn't work out and the company won't refund the money then i will usually sell it to a person who is looking for one at better price and i lose a little money and make someone else happy with their purchase. sometimes you have to fly with turkey's before you can soar with eagles lol good luck rob k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
too_pointer Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Had it with the hype! Guys, that's what this forum is for Usually someone will try somethings or know somebody who has. Sharing info is a great thing in here and can let people make up their own minds on what works and and what is hype LOL. too_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antlers21 Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Had it with the hype! I guess I am thinking the opposite of most. I like to see what they have to offer and if I like something ussually the pro shop lets me try it out before I buy so it is not an expense to me unless I like it. Some advertising is repetitive but for some new archers or some people that need to upgrade it is very informative. I especially like ads by martin with the sexy female archer. Yeah baby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruttinbuc Posted July 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Had it with the hype! Is she promoting Martin bows or SEX! Or is SEX promoting the Martin bows. How many bows do you think she sold? How many have continued to read on with the mindset to go out and check a Martin bow? How many just licked their lips and forgot about Martin bows altogether? I was at a bow festival once where there was a very well endowed girl selling Loggy Bayou treestands. You would think the president was in town with the crowd around her demonstration. All eyes were on her as she worked the climbing stand up and down the demo pole. Can anyone guess how many stands she sold afterward? Put it this way. She got more oohs and aahs than sales! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Re: Had it with the hype! In some cases we are being suckered in and at other times we're not. It depends on the item. Over the years I've been suckered into spending money on usless items while doing some experimenting but I also picked up some things that were helpfull, especially things that helped me preparing the set up of a stand. Now I just try to make some sense of it all and stick with what works for me or is a better way of doing something that works for me. Anything that doesn't fit that or resembles something that hasn't worked before sure doesn't get my money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antlers21 Posted July 5, 2005 Report Share Posted July 5, 2005 Re: Had it with the hype! Ruttinbuc, that is exactly what I meant when I said that I liked the martin ads. Most dont even notice the bows at all. It was a little joke there man. As for the ads that over use propaganda I dont pay a lot of attention to them but there are a lot of ads that tell about there product and show pictures and that is useful information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruttinbuc Posted July 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2005 Re: Had it with the hype! I took it as a joke antlers21. I just used it as an example of the lengths the mfg's go to sell product. Martin makes a darn good bow for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stsi36 Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 Re: Had it with the hype! i look online at the site and see if it is really worth it b4 i touch any of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTbowman Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Re: Had it with the hype! Amen brother! Its one of the main reasons why I sold my compound bow everything to do with a compound and went trad only. This includeds range finder, pop-up blind, etc. Humans have been hunting game successfully for around 10000 years without all the bells and whistles. Why not me...??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Re: Had it with the hype! Vtbowman- That's pretty radical, but I'm glad to hear that there is at least one bowhunter who is doing exactly what I wish I still had the strength to do. I absolutely envy those who are re-discovering that bowhunting is not about who can buy the most technologically advanced equipment. If I was a bit younger and was still physically able, I'd be joining you. Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Re: Had it with the hype! [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] i logically decide what i need and for what purpose and then get it.. but i am also set in my ways on some products.. if i have had good experiences in the past i will continue to buy them in the future and recommend them to orhter bowhunters... [/ QUOTE ] I'm pretty much the same way. I might see something in an ad that interests me and I'll investigate it more. [/ QUOTE ] Same here! I buy what I need for when I need it! Nothing more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gowest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 Re: Had it with the hype! When I find a set up I like, I stick with it. Once in a while I may try something new in order to assess its' performance in a tight hunting situation. Most of the guys that I know on videos and TV shows, usually stick with very basic set ups: releases that use a buckle, not velcro, fixed pin sites in round apertures, and fixed blade broad heads. My personal set up is: 30" Mathews SQ2 set at 70 lbs Taratulas and a Simms Modular stabilizer 3-60 ACC's with feathers Kwikee Kwiver (3 arrows) 125 grain Montec HHA Optimizer 5000 Scott release I hunt out of a tree lounge because it's the safest one I've found - and I can nap in it and not worry about falling out. Yeah it's good stuff, who knows, maybe there is some better equipment out there. However, I feel safe, I hit what I aim at (out to 40 yards), and I have total confidence in my ability to harvest game when it enters my zone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 Re: Had it with the hype! I just got the latest "Sportman Guide" hunting catalog and have been having a great time laughing at some of the new inventions that they are trying to convince us that we just can't live without. I am now convinced that one of the factors in the recent spike in ATV sales is because that is probably what some hunters need to carry all those hunting gadgets around the woods. If you bought one of everything they sell, you wouldn't be able to pick up your bow...lol. I thought all the fishing equipment was getting way overboard, but hunting marketeers have left them way in the dust. Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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