Guest Bowhunter2114 Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Whats your opinion on these? I have about 6 of them. I love hunting but when you have these it makes the hunting season seem not as meaningful. I am not using my gun to fill these tags thats for sure. Also when you have a 100acres of corn what is the easiest way to get them? Setup on water???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Bubbles Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 Re: Crop Damage Permits.... nearest tree by the ditch i would say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 Re: Crop Damage Permits.... Necessary evil IMHO. Some parts of Ohio are pert near overrun with deer. The guy that allows me to hunt his property, ohiobucks' good friend, has had crop damage tags in the past. I wish you guys could have seen the look on Woody's face when he told us a story of combining this one field of corn last year. Woody said something to the effect of "the first pass that borders the woods was a waste of time, I was just mowing the corn." His face wasn't anger, or anything like that, it was more exasperation and disappointment. Hard to describe. I know he didn't want pity, but I felt really sorry for him, especially knowing that I missed 3 deer and should have taken a shot on another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhunter91 Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 Re: Crop Damage Permits.... We have a nursery that we go to that has a permit. The deer eat on the shrubs and the mulch piles that the owner has. We might be going there soon. But NYS DEC hasn't gotten back to us on the exact regs for the permits. Some say it is gun only here in NY and you have to call the cops and let them know that you will be discharging a firearm etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeviShot Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 Re: Crop Damage Permits.... We have these permits also.It allows you to kill 10 doe's,when you turn the light on and see 30+ what's 10 gonna do?The crop damage here is incredible,I can't wait until Sept 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 Re: Crop Damage Permits.... I have no real problem with "nuisance permits" as long as the land is open to hunters during the regular season. Certainly farmers and nurserymen have the right to protect their livelihood. However, I'm sure that there is occasionally a great deal of abuse in the system. Those farmers that seal off their property from hunters during the regular season and then cry hardship to get handfuls of permits, have very little of my sympathy. The granting of nuisance permits should be contingent on the landowners allowing some minimum amount of hunting by the general public during regular season. Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranchand99 Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 Re: Crop Damage Permits.... I don't see the sportsmanship in it.Most people plant crops for insurance anyways...let's keep it real.I just couldn't imagine shooting a fawn,or doe with fawns leaving them for the coyotes or starvation.But,that's just my opinion.It's like alot of other laws,(baiting,turkeys with rifles..etc.)if you don't agree with it don't do it.To each his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 Re: Crop Damage Permits.... Sometimes, deer are just varmints. I hunted a small 250 acre apple/peach orchard for a while that had a deer problem. We used to take 25-50 deer or so on a night hunt mid September. These were only does and fawns. During hunting season we had 50 -80 DMAP anterless tags that were given to us in addition to the 4-6 tags on each persons license. We typicaly killed 125 deer or so in hunting season on that little 250 acres of land. The land was surrounded by government land that was not hunted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranchand99 Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 Re: Crop Damage Permits.... Well,I can respect that AJ.Most fawns are capable of surviving by sept.,but late June,and July?I can see where certain situations would call for it.During those times you are talking about.125 deer for 250 acres is rediculous.I live on a 200 acre farm,and we probably have 15 deer on the property.We usually only take 3 or 4 a year.I guess things are different in other areas,but the people down here take advantage of these permits.I don't shoot deer with a spotlight.There is no skill in that.I know when you are going to take them out that is the easiest way.Most areas down here recieve more than enough hunting pressure,and the deer are not doing more damage than insects would.Most of the people just apply for a permit so they can shoot deer,not because the deer are endangering crops.I know a few people who plant the minimum acreage just for the purpose of getting a permit.I can see where if you owned a business that sold apples you would want to take them out.But if the trees are there for the sole purpose of drawing deer,then what damage is being done?This must be area specific,so if any of the people that are having true problems,such as AJ, have been offended..please forgive me.There are some people who do take advantage of it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckNrut Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 Re: Crop Damage Permits.... This is why I call it "deer shooting" not "hunting". And yes, where I have the permits the land is open to hunters. Some of thes "hunters" have abused the privelege and now "hunting season" is limited to those that can follow the rules. BTW, I can speak first hand here, you really have to hustle when you bag a deer and it's 90 degrees outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bowhunter2114 Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 Re: Crop Damage Permits.... I definatly would NEVER let a deer lay after shooting it. I take and cut them up. I would never waste meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 Re: Crop Damage Permits.... [ QUOTE ] BTW, I can speak first hand here, you really have to hustle when you bag a deer and it's 90 degrees outside. [/ QUOTE ] Oh yeah! Its more work shooting them at night in September than it is in daytime in hunting season. Nothing like having 10 deer to gut, dress, and hang in cold storage all in a couple hours. Meanwhile you are sweating your ears off and trying to keep the flies off the meat. Its a lot more work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckNrut Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 Re: Crop Damage Permits.... AJ is definately correct - I forgot to mention all those FLIES!!! Plus, when you have a garden growing and there is no place to burry the leftovers, it's Sunday and they pick up the trash on Friday, what do you do? I have to freeze the leftovers and remember to include them in the trash on Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archerjg Posted July 28, 2005 Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 Re: Crop Damage Permits.... Sometimes they are necessary. We have lost all 52 acres of beans to deer this year. The landowner got permits as they were eating his hay as well. There is a hunt club that takes somewhere between 6 and 12 deer a year in season . There were and are nights that there are 20+ deer on a four acre field and more than that on the other fields. Archerjg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
too_pointer Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Re: Crop Damage Permits.... Some people just complain LOL The one looks like a bruiser !! too_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
py_archer Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 Re: Crop Damage Permits.... I like the fact that I can cut the meat out right where it dropped. None of that pesky drag out, ride to the check station then stand in line for over an hour only to be handed your metal tag and told "now you be sure and put this on the Deer now". Right now only permit holders and poachers do it this way. My orders are to shoot the fawns first. Don't laugh, I rank it right up there with Grouse, Pheasant and Walleye! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Crop Damage Permits.... [ QUOTE ] My orders are to shoot the fawns first. Don't laugh, I rank it right up there with Grouse, Pheasant and Walleye! [/ QUOTE ] I heard that! Some very good eating there! During our "shoot", as long as it did not have visible antlers, it was getting shot, until our quota was filled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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