hutchies Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 Past 25 yards I am getting really spread out. 35 yards my groups are about the size of a dad gum basketball. I think I am going to switch back over to my pin sight tonight and see if I shoot any better. I am also wonder if it maybe because the peep they put on there is a large or x- large peep. When I look at my sight I can see the ring around the outside. I know the hole on my old peep was not that big and I was shooting good groups. Has anyone else had this problem? By the way I am anchoring in the same spot everytime now. I think maybe if I bring the size of the peep down there will be less room for error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainebuck Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 Re: Past 25 yards How long ago was it you were shooting good groups at 35 yds. with your old peep? If it has been a while maybe it's just your form that needs some more practice. Personally, I know that after shooting consistently for a couple of weeks I am much more accurate past 25 yards. The first few days to a week and I'll have a good night, then an off night out that far. It's all about repitition. Try it again tonight and see if you get the same results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimT Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 Re: Past 25 yards Nice new pic Eric...lol... Have someone watch you shoot to see how your form is maybe? Something coule be loose on your bow also.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted August 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 Re: Past 25 yards Maine all I can say is ouch. That looks painful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rut-Nut Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 Re: Past 25 yards [ QUOTE ] Maine all I can say is ouch. That looks painful. [/ QUOTE ] Can you say ARMGUARD?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted August 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 Re: Past 25 yards I was shooting good 35 yard groups before. Now at 35 yards I am lucky to keep it the size of a basketball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kat Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 Re: Past 25 yards I wouldn't doubt if it was all in your head. I do that quite often. I sike myself out and make bad groups. Bowshooting is mental. I hope it isn't a problem with your bow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted August 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 Re: Past 25 yards I got to thinking about it and my groups have been wild every since I put on the single pin slide sight I bought. So I called my daughter and had her bring my bow down to work. Changed the sights out. Made measurements of where the pin was before. Set it up at the same height from the arrow as the the single pin and same distance from riser to pin. Anyway went out and shot a 20 yard group. First two arrows low and left. Adjusted and bada bing next 4 in a baseball from 20 yards. I have to do some more shooting to see if this will make the difference for me at longer ranges. I am wondering if maybe since I only had one pin to look at I was not holding the bow level. Dunno just always used a 3 pin before and it is like second sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SLBDEERHUNTER Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 Re: Past 25 yards When I got my new bow, the shop put a large diameter peep in to start with, My groups were great at short distance but grew larger the further away. I went back to the shop and put the next smaller size on and am shooting 3 inch group out to 35 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted August 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 Re: Past 25 yards I think you maybe confirming my worst fear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RJK Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 Re: Past 25 yards Have you paper tuned your bow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainebuck Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 Re: Past 25 yards [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Maine all I can say is ouch. That looks painful. [/ QUOTE ] Can you say ARMGUARD?! [/ QUOTE ] I darn sure can now. I dug it up out of one of my storage bins. Yet another hard lesson learned. That, and check your carbon arrows for damage even if you think there's no way they could be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranchand99 Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 Re: Past 25 yards Target shooters use smaller peeps,but that doesn't help you at the last 10 min of light.Take the horns off your deer target..you aren't focusing .Seriously it's probably that you are shooting too much..take a break.If that doesn't work try shooting 40 yds,then go back to 35,and see if you improve.It could be that you aren't holding the bow level.Are you gripping the bow,or letting it settle in the thumb pocket with the pinky,ring,and middle finger pointing at the target with your index,and thumb touching like you are making an ok hand signal.Just trying to help you figure it out.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest foulmouthfool Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Re: Past 25 yards I had the same problem when I switched to a larger peep. I couldn't figure out what was going on so I decided to not even try to group, but to practice at 40 paying more attention to my form than my aim. I shot 8 arrows and busted knocks on two, and like I said, I wasn't even trying to group!!! It was actually the best group I had ever shot at that distance. For me it was all in my anchor point. When I was shooting a smaller peep, I never had to worry about my anchor point because it was just "there". There was no wiggle room. When I moved to the larger peep, I could anchor all over the place and still get just about the same sight picture. Its amazing how the slightest change can throw you off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddhunter Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Re: Past 25 yards I think the smaller peep would help but it would take away a few minutes at first and last light when most deer and or big bucks come out. Just practice centering your sight in the middle of your peep, that's what I do. Good luck man!!!!! Hope you get it fixed what ever it is!!!! ONLY 3 DAYS LEFT!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted August 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Re: Past 25 yards Shot some 40 yard shots last night for the first time in my life. I have never even attempted a 40 yard shot before. Anyway groups were about the size of a basketball. Hopefully with a little practice over the next few days and thew will be about like a volleyball. I would be happy with that. Your right Mad, I am not planning on changing it. I am just going to practice more. I came to that conclusion yesterday. I am very comfortable shooting at an animal at 30-35 yards away. At 20 yards close to dark I would rather have a bigger peep to be able to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddhunter Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Past 25 yards Was thinking of your troubles last night while I was driving tacks at 60 yrds and thought if you don't already you might try wearing a glove while shooting. It really helped me alot, keeps me from torqeing my bow especially when sweating. I use my turkey hunting gloves which have soft suede leather that wont bind my grip it lets my bow center on it's on. It helped me alot especially when shooting past 30yrds when the slightest twitch can stray an arrow 10-15 inches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest madabouthuntin Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Past 25 yards I have to agree with MadHunter as well. The larger peep will give you more light in the low light conditions, but it does take away from your accuracy. I have noticed with my peep that just a little off one way or the other makes a difference even at 20 yards and it's not as large as some of the ones they have on the market today. Just keep practicing the way you are now. Good luck!! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Shooter Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Past 25 yards Hutchies, How long have you been shooting a bow? Just from reading your post, it sounds like you've been shooting for a few years. There's a couple of questions I've got. I don't know about you, but I'm not too confident in a volleyball sized group before I go into the woods. Have you checked the center shot/square of your rest? How often do you shoot your bow? Are you shooting a two cam or one cam bow? If it's a two cam, it could be your timing has gone out. This is fixed by twisting the cables. Your tiller could be out, this will change your knocking point There's a lot of factors here and only changing your pin sights aren't going to make your groups go bad. Keep us posted on your progress and good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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