Guest WVHunter129 Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Well I was reading my old Archery Handbook by Chuck Adams and was reading on paper tuning your bow. I just wondered if anyone else did this? I did mine today at 20 yards and here is the picture. According to the book it appears that my bow is tune pretty good. This photo shows that I have no problem with fishtailing or the other thing (whatever it is called) where you arrow goes up and down instead of fishtailing side to side. So far I am very pleased with my New Martin Jaguar bow. Very quite and very fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimT Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Paper Tuning your bow I do twice a year. Your shooting way to far away though. Try it from just 3-5' and see what you get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Paper Tuning your bow When you shoot through the paper, you will want to be at least 5 yards away from the paper. (15 to 20 ft is good) If you stand too close, the arrow does not have enough time to correct itself and you will end up frustrated over the fact that you may never get a perfect "bullet hole". Standing too far away (20 yrds) allows your arrow to correct itself somewhat too much and doesn't give you a true tuning reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dg Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Paper Tuning your bow I don't paper tune anymore. I can eyeball my settings and get pretty close. The proof comes when I tune a bow to shoot 20 yds with a bare shaft and vane shafts and hit <2" inches of each other. But if you do paper tune, try shooting at different distances. Even though, if you group well, that's the bottom line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Paper Tuning your bow i have mine paper tuned every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Shooter Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Paper Tuning your bow Paper tuning is usually done from about 3 feet away from the end of the bow to the paper. Once you've determined correct arrow size and weight. You can then paper tune. If your having a hard time paper tuning, your either over or under spined on your arrow shaft. You'll not be able to adjust this out with the rest. You will either have to adjust your bow poundage, change arrows, change weight of the shaft, these are just a few things that paper tuning tells you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainebuck Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Paper Tuning your bow I do it from about 6 - 10 feet away from the paper. Just did it Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Paper Tuning your bow actually you dont want perfect bullet holes for paper tuning.. a slightly nock high tear is best.. notice i said slightly ... that way the arrow is coming off of the rest instead of staying on the rest until your fletching contacts the rest.. it just gets the arrows off of the rest a little quicker.. also paper tuning is only good if you can duplicate your shot the same each time.. i have seen people that shoot nock high one time then the next a left tear .. setting the bow up correctly is getting pretty easy for most shops.. with lasers they can do center shot and get the nock settings really close along with a small level for the arrow shaft... as long as your arrow spine is really close most guys dont have to check paper tuning unless theres some type of obvious arrow wobble and that is mostly because of improper setup... Shoot Strong Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Paper Tuning your bow They level my knock and lasered for my centershot. First time I had ever seen that done so i had to see if it worked came home and threw in a Lumenock and thump straight as a string. Oh and by the way the Browning Illusions has an valley in the riser to show you where the centershot is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Paper Tuning your bow I just looked at what I typed. My sentence sound like a punch drunk idiot. I need to go fix some coffee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tyshe17 Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Paper Tuning your bow Isnt paper tuning usually done with a bare shaft? That is how I did it back in the day when I was shooting Olympic style, I have sense moved to just shooting a bare shaft to verify that my bow is intune. anyways just wondering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WVHunter129 Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Paper Tuning your bow Thanks guys for the information. I will reshoot my bow this evening at a closer range and see how it turns out. I have never done this before, but I had read about it and thought to myself a new bow, tuned at the archery shop, lets see how it does. Shooting at 10, 15 and 20 yards I get real good groups. So close I worry about damaging the first arrow. I guess I am just doing over kill, but I like to learn as much as I can. Again appreciate all the comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Paper Tuning your bow If your shooting that good groups...I wouldn't worry about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dg Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Paper Tuning your bow [ QUOTE ] Shooting at 10, 15 and 20 yards I get real good groups. So close I worry about damaging the first arrow. I guess I am just doing over kill, but I like to learn as much as I can. Again appreciate all the comments. [/ QUOTE ] Don't forget to shoot with broadheads. THAT will determine if you are tuned........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTbowman Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Paper Tuning your bow [ QUOTE ] If you stand too close, the arrow does not have enough time to correct itself and you will end up frustrated over the fact that you may never get a perfect "bullet hole". [/ QUOTE ] I can't 100% agree with this statement Buckee... If you can't get bullet holes at 6 feet away and you have tuned your bow as well as it can be, then your looking at under or over spined arrows... For in shop tuning thats about all you can expect. Outside or indoor ranges where you can shoot at various distances then paper tuning at 10 yards is far enough. By then your arrow should of stabilized via your flecthing. If your still not getting good holes then you need more bow tuning... Arrow length and tip weight can be a savior or burden when tuning a bow. Once your level and straight with all your accessaries, then you "should tune your arrows to your bow. Playing with arrow length and tip weight is how you achieve this. Most compound shooters do not do this. They cut there arrows as short as safety dictates and use a standard weight tip, either 100g or maybe 125g. Although with true center shots you can get with compound rests, no one ussually does this. Traditional archers HAVE to do this to get good flight. Its not easy and take 10x the time to tune a trad bow over a compound. Once you get it thought you never see anything but bullet holes at any distance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Paper Tuning your bow [ QUOTE ] the other thing (whatever it is called) where you arrow goes up and down instead of fishtailing side to side. [/ QUOTE ] Porpoising, you know, kind of like Flipper coming up for air. I need to get my bow to the shop. About every 3rd arrow I have a corkscrewing arrow. That's not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest foulmouthfool Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Paper Tuning your bow one thing I'm surprised that I didn't see anyone mention was form. If you are not shooting your bow very well.................creeping, torqueing, etc.....you will get inconsistent tears and fight your rest all day long. You need to pay as much attention to proper grip and form when paper tuning, as you do any other time you're shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shtr Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Re: Paper Tuning your bow Man this has been a chuckle I didnt get through too many posts and the opinions were right , wrong , right , wrong. LOL Poor guy!...simple question and now he is probably just sitting there with a blank look on his face!. L.M.A.O. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvDog Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Re: Paper Tuning your bow I guess I need to look into this, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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