hutchies Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Are there any good things about a straight fletching? I always hear to use a helical but I never hear any good scenarios or reasons to use a straight fletch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdoc Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Straight fletch i see no advantage to a straight fletching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainebuck Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Straight fletch Mine have a 1 degree offset. the only thing I could see wrong with helical would be rest contact in certain situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MCDillinois Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Straight fletch a nice helical will allow the arrow to stablize and provide excellent flight provided your bow is tuned very well. Certain shoot through rests will create tuning problems with a hard helical. However, the harder the better for drop away rests, regardless of the model of dropaway rest. Me, I use a dropaway and very hard helical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Straight fletch Hutchies, I first used a straight fletch, didn't no any better at the time. I had some arrows refletched with a halical to them, right off the bat i could see a difference in arrow flight with the helical over straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Straight fletch I shoot straight with a slight offset. Works fine for me. I can't shoot a hard helical because I use a Bodoodle rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted August 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Straight fletch I use a whisker biscuit and was wondering if there would be any advantages with straight fletch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Straight fletch [ QUOTE ] I shoot straight with a slight offset. Works fine for me. I can't shoot a hard helical because I use a Bodoodle rest. [/ QUOTE ] What exactly is straight with an offset? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossman Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Straight fletch [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I shoot straight with a slight offset. Works fine for me. I can't shoot a hard helical because I use a Bodoodle rest. [/ QUOTE ] What exactly is straight with an offset? [/ QUOTE ] Good question. A straight fletch with an offset, is having the fletches straight, but the fletches are not straight with the arrow, it is offset. A helical fletch is actually Taking the fletch and curving it along the arrow. If this makes any sense!!! I don;t know if it even makes sense to me!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Straight fletch rossman, that makes all the sense in the world! Is straight with an offset any better than a helical? Seems an offset would be pretty much the same as a helical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTbowman Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Straight fletch Benifits of Straight: Theorectically an arrow should fly straight wiithout any flecthing at all. Its not unheard of thre bare shaft tuning to achieve this but not very commond. Flecthing is designed 1st to stabilize the arrows flight and 2nd if helical or offset is added, will cause a spinning effect to which stabilizes more. The only positive to straight vs helical or offset would be rest clearance of certain types of rests. Helical vs Offset: Offset, depending on how much off from straight (via shaft) is. Helical is a more curved fletching following the diameter of the shaft. Low helical and hard offset may do the exact same spin on an arrow. hard helical will out preform hard offset but by number of arrow rotations in flight only. Not neccesarily be more accurate. Helical will basically spin an arrow faster. LOL However hard helical may contact your specific rest type... Which does nothing for you in the accuracy dept.. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainebuck Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Straight fletch who shoots helical with a whisker biskit? I was afraid to right out of the gate wtih the new rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossman Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Straight fletch A helical will give you a more dramatic curviture at the tale end of the fletch, hense give you a more dramatic sipn of your arrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted August 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Straight fletch I am shooting a helical now without any problems that I can see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTbowman Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Straight fletch Not advised to shoot helical threw the biscut. Offset is a bit more kind... You will get massive arrow spin though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest kunegos Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Straight fletch I am shooting helical feathers through mine, without any noticable effect on accuracy. My Muzzys hit the same exact spot as my field points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted August 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Straight fletch [ QUOTE ] Not advised to shoot helical threw the biscut. Offset is a bit more kind... You will get massive arrow spin though.... [/ QUOTE ] What about if you are shooting blazer vanes though? They seem to be alot tougher. With the WB having equal pressure on all three vanes it should not affect it shooting helical right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedicast Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Straight fletch I shoot a straight offset also. My bh's group almost perfectly with my fieldpoints. A well tuned bow doesn't need the radical helical to make a bh fly straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTbowman Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Straight fletch [ QUOTE ] What about if you are shooting blazer vanes though? They seem to be alot tougher. With the WB having equal pressure on all three vanes it should not affect it shooting helical right? [/ QUOTE ] I honestly can't say about the blazer vanes. I have no experience with them. But knowing they are a shorter vanes it may be worse. My thoughts are that once a set of three 4" or 5" vanes starts to encounter the whiskers it will naturally start the spin and continue the rotation faster and faster while the vanes are passing threw. (Obviously this is almost instant but there is still a acceleration time even at that speed.) With short vanes it will be like going from zero to full out in 1/3 to 2/3 less time. That may or may not effect your arrows negatively exiting the whiskers as they are designed to do. Depending on how much helical you have they may act as brakes... or it may be awesome spin and great flight! I think even CAP suggests not to use a helical but not 100% sure about that one either. I say give it a whirl.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdoc Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Straight fletch i don't shoot a WB but a lot of the archery gurus over at Archery Talk shoot the blazers and WB and are loving the combination. most are shooting with a right helical pattern and the blazers are holding up really well. todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Re: Straight fletch I use the Whisker Bisquit with a 4* right offset and haven't really had a problem with it at all,,,,,,,after a massive amount of shooting the AAE Elites show a little warpping, but like I said that's after a massive amount of shooting.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranchand99 Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Re: Straight fletch I use a wb,and shoot 4 degree right helical,and it ripples the vanes,and makes a whizzing sound when you shoot the arrow.WB's like straight ,because it will not ripple the vane.Take the arrow and slide it through the WB like it is shooting,and you can see how the offset forces it's way through.That's where the rippling comes from,and on lower quality vanes..it will eventually rip them off,from that force.You can use quikspin vanes to get your spin back.Crossbows shoot a straight vane,and they are accurate,but straight works best with mechanicals,due to low lying blades.When you get a fixed blade head on there it wants to do the steering,hence using the quickspins to steer.WB's will not damage vanes with a Straight fletching near as bad as offset.That's the advantage of using straight with the wb.But is it worth the money,and effort?Not to me that's why I use a fresh arrow for hunting so it is silent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Shooter Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Re: Straight fletch I've shot straight fletch with a 2 degree off-set for the last 12 years and have had great success. A TM style rest is a helicals worst enemy. This is a rest with prongs that are close together. A WB is a different story. As with anything on a bow, it's got to be tuned in and it'll shoot anything you want through it. Me and my neighbor shot two arrows the same weight, same length, same fletchies, except for helical vs. straight. The helical actually shot 5 fps faster than the straight. Don't know why, but it did everytime. As for the advantage of straight over helical, it's all in the shooters choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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