Griz Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Got this in a e-mail and thought I would pass it along to yall... Wasn't really sure if I put this in the right place or not, but oh well here it goes... IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU ARE REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT! KEEP IT GOING!!!! 2008 Election Issue!! GET A BILL STARTED TO PLACE ALL POLITICIANS ON SOC. SEC. This must be an issue in "2008 ". Please! Keep it going. --------------- ------------------- SOCIAL SECURITY: (This is worth reading. It is short and to the point.) Perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election years. Our Senators and Congresswomen do not pay into Social Security and, of course, they do not collect from it. You see, Social Security benefits were not suitable for persons of their rare elevation in society. They felt they should have a special plan for themselves. So, many years ago they voted in their own benefit plan. In more recent years, no congressperson has felt the need to change it. After all, it is a great plan. For all practical purposes their plan works like this: When they retire, they continue to draw the same pay until they die. Except it may increase from time to time for cost of living adjustments.. This is calculated on an average life span for each of these two Dignitaries. For example, Senator Byrd and Congressman White and their wives may expect to draw $7,800,000.00 (that's Seven Million, Eight-Hundred Thousand Dollars), with their wives drawing $275,000.00 during the last years of their lives. Younger Dignitaries who retire at an early age, will receive much more during the rest of their lives. Their cost for this excellent plan is $0.00. NADA....ZILCH.... This little perk they voted for themselves is free to them. You and I pick up the tab for this plan. The funds for this fine retirement plan come directly from the General Funds. "OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK"! >From our own Social Security Plan, which you and I pay (or have paid) into every payday until we retire (which amount is matched by our employer) - we can expect to get an average of $1,000 per month after retirement. Or, in other words, we would have to collect our average of $1,000 monthly benefits for 68 years and one (1) month to equal Senator Bill Bradley's benefits! Social Security could be very good if only one small change were made. That change would be to: Jerk the Golden Fleece Retirement Plan from under the Senators and Congressmen. Put them into the Social Security plan with the rest of us, then sit back..... and watch how fast they would fix it.. If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe good changes will evolve. How many people can YOU send this to? Better yet..... How many people WILL you send this to?? IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU ARE REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT! KEEP IT GOING!!!! 2008 Election Issue!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Re: What Retirement Plan do you Have? I use a retirement plan that goes through our denomination. I don't just rely on Social Security, because I see how little that people get today on this program. Doesn't make sense, you pay in all your life and then nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvDog Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Re: What Retirement Plan do you Have? 401K plans, savings, and other investments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Re: What Retirement Plan do you Have? That must be nice huh? Talk about living off the fat of the land. Well, it's a long way off for me, but I'm currently investing in a 401K, on top of SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Re: What Retirement Plan do you Have? Social Security was never meant to be a retirement plan, but rather a supplement to it. Personally, I don't begrudge anyone who has taken the risks and worked hard to get where they are now as long as they did it within the boundary of the law. I have a 403b and my wife has a 401k. I pray that I'm around to spend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David_218 Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Re: What Retirement Plan do you Have? IRA, Savings, and other investments too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Re: What Retirement Plan do you Have? Actually, members of Congress do pay Social Security. They changed that law in 1984. They don't continue drawing their full salaries after retirement, but they do have a really nice retirement plan that's based on years in office, what committees they served on, their maximum salaries, etc. By law they're limited to receiving no more than 80% of their salary in retirement. Of course, I'd love to be able to retire at 50 and still draw 80% of my salary! Personally, I've got a defined contribution plan at work that pays a certain amount at retirement based on years of service and my average salary for the top 3 years of service, an IRA, a 401K and a few thousand dollars buried out back in a mason jar... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Re: What Retirement Plan do you Have? IRA-SEP, personal savings, and investments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dg Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Re: What Retirement Plan do you Have? It's not alot, but I'll retire at 41 years old this fall with 20 years in the Air Force at E-8. I'll still have to work. But hopefully, I can stash most of that into a savings with a decent second career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
too_pointer Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Re: What Retirement Plan do you Have? Good thread. Everyone please beware you can't always predict the future. I had a great job making good money, and became disabled around age 47. My medical bills ate my 401k plan $$ right away. I now only have S.S. coming in. You just never know. I just want to encourage you to put away as much as you can afford. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowtechTurkeyHunter Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Re: What Retirement Plan do you Have? 401 k and mutual funds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billygoat Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Re: What Retirement Plan do you Have? I'm there with J.B. I am in the state of Wisconsin Retirement System which contirbutes 13% of GAI to retirement. I also have a tax anuity (sure hope that one pays out). God forbid I have to sell the house and live in the sticks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Schmeck Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Re: What Retirement Plan do you Have? I own a gold mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 Re: What Retirement Plan do you Have? I didnt bring anything with me ..I aint takin anything when I go.....my treasure is laid up eleswhere.......as far as retire?? I guess I could always sell the place, but it would be like cutting off a leg or arm.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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