1olhunter Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 While practicing I have found that my broadheads and fieldpoints are grouping about 6 inches apart at 30 yards. The elevation is the same, just the azimuth is off. I am getting 3-4 inch groups with both. I would just like them to group a little closer. Any suggestions????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 Re: Broadheads right - fieldpoints left If your getting good groupings at 30 yrds with both your field-tips and your broadheads, but they are just not hitting in the same place, this is what you do. http://www.newarchery.com/tips/tip.asp?fID=3 the trick is to bring your broadheads over about halfway to where your field points are hitting by adjusting your rest, and then move your sights for the other half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbuckdown70 Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 Re: Broadheads right - fieldpoints left heat up your insert and spin them so the glue is even and then line up your blades with your vains if 3 bladed try that but i have had broadheads that just would not fly right out of my set up good luck!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 Re: Broadheads right - fieldpoints left Easier way than heating upo the glue is to put a rubber o ring inbetween the insert and broadhead. That will allow the broad head to tighten up to the insert but it will be adjustable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedicast Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 Re: Broadheads right - fieldpoints left [ QUOTE ] heat up your insert and spin them so the glue is even and then line up your blades with your vains if 3 bladed try that but i have had broadheads that just would not fly right out of my set up good luck!! [/ QUOTE ] It is not important to have your blades lined up with your vanes. The important thing is to make sure your bh's spin true. That there is absolutely no wobble in them. If you are grouping them ok, but your groups just differ from the fieldpoints, it sounds more like a bow tuning issue, than an arrow issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
too_pointer Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 Re: Broadheads right - fieldpoints left I agree with tedicast, if the spin and no wobble is much more important than aligning the blades with your vanes. too_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 Re: Broadheads right - fieldpoints left [ QUOTE ] heat up your insert and spin them so the glue is even and then line up your blades with your vains if 3 bladed try that but i have had broadheads that just would not fly right out of my set up good luck!! [/ QUOTE ] If he is getting good groups with his broadheads, that is not the problem. If that was the problem, his broadheads would be all over the place. IMO Try the broadhead tuning method from the link I gave you above. That should take care of it. If you do have a few wanderers, the rubber O-ring ussually takes care of that too. (like suggested above) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shtr Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 Re: Broadheads right - fieldpoints left your rest is off tune. move left or right to bring the broadheads to where the field points are hitting. Come on guys...this is 1 o'1 of tuning. Your gonna drive the guy nuts LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dg Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 Re: Broadheads right - fieldpoints left Could be: - rest not adjusted correctly - torquing the bow - arrow spine - vane contact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1olhunter Posted August 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 Re: Broadheads right - fieldpoints left Thanks for the great help. I had already aligned the broadheads with the fletchings and spun the broadheads on the shaft to check the alignment. The link buckee provided to NAP was helpful. I moved the arrow rest slightly to the left and it brought the groups much closer together. I made a slight windage adjustment to the sight and that seems to have taken care of that problem. Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremehunter45 Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Re: Broadheads right - fieldpoints left ANSWER TO ALL QUESTIONS ABOUT BAD FLYIN BROADHEADS!!!! SHOOT A MUZZY!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedicast Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Re: Broadheads right - fieldpoints left [ QUOTE ] ANSWER TO ALL QUESTIONS ABOUT BAD FLYIN BROADHEADS!!!! SHOOT A MUZZY!! [/ QUOTE ] Yeah...that will solve a tuning problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Re: Broadheads right - fieldpoints left [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] heat up your insert and spin them so the glue is even and then line up your blades with your vains if 3 bladed try that but i have had broadheads that just would not fly right out of my set up good luck!! [/ QUOTE ] It is not important to have your blades lined up with your vanes. The important thing is to make sure your bh's spin true. That there is absolutely no wobble in them. If you are grouping them ok, but your groups just differ from the fieldpoints, it sounds more like a bow tuning issue, than an arrow issue. [/ QUOTE ] Yep John I believe this now! Tonite I was shooting some BH's that were NOT alined with the fletchings! They shot just as good as the ones lined with the fletchings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedicast Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Re: Broadheads right - fieldpoints left [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] heat up your insert and spin them so the glue is even and then line up your blades with your vains if 3 bladed try that but i have had broadheads that just would not fly right out of my set up good luck!! [/ QUOTE ] It is not important to have your blades lined up with your vanes. The important thing is to make sure your bh's spin true. That there is absolutely no wobble in them. If you are grouping them ok, but your groups just differ from the fieldpoints, it sounds more like a bow tuning issue, than an arrow issue. [/ QUOTE ] Yep John I believe this now! Tonite I was shooting some BH's that were NOT alined with the fletchings! They shot just as good as the ones lined with the fletchings! [/ QUOTE ] Until last year I always insisted on mine being lined up too. I had some lined up, and some random, with absolutely no change in impact. Making sure your bh is square to the arrow, with no wobble, is definately the key to consistent bh flight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tyshe17 Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Re: Broadheads right - fieldpoints left I pulled the o-ring trick wiht my muzzys and it moved them 6 inches just by lining the blades up with my vanes...I dont know if there was wobble before, but lining it up has my bh and field points shooting in a baseball size group at 40 yards just curious...how do yall go about making sure there is no wobble in your heads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Re: Broadheads right - fieldpoints left I was told to spin the arrow like a top, the arrow should not have any wobble at all. I did this on a glass surface. I did have one arrow that wobbled here at home when I tried a BH with a Cabela's brand arrow. But all the SuperCarbons were true. But I believe now they dont need to be alined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedicast Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Re: Broadheads right - fieldpoints left [ QUOTE ] I pulled the o-ring trick wiht my muzzys and it moved them 6 inches just by lining the blades up with my vanes...I dont know if there was wobble before, but lining it up has my bh and field points shooting in a baseball size group at 40 yards just curious...how do yall go about making sure there is no wobble in your heads? [/ QUOTE ] This is the absolute best way to check your heads for wobble. Cabelas spin tester there is no way that lining up your blades with your vanes moved your point of impact 6 inches. It is more likely that it squared your head to the arrow shaft a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shtr Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Re: Broadheads right - fieldpoints left Agreed. More likely a defect in the insert/head/ect. was masked by moving the head tyshe17. Something is wrong here (?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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