Guest Xen Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 so, a friend of mine bought a brand new Glock .40 - I don't know what model, and I honestly forgot to ask, but anyway, he loads his own shells. he got a load that must have had a double powder charge, anyway, gun came all apart, his words were "the gun completely shattered" luckily, all it did was bruise his hand pretty bad. he said they found most of the gun, but not all of it, and sent it to glock. he's waiting to see what they'll do, but apparently, glock says if you use your own loads, the warranty is void - i'll keep you posted as we see what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvDog Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 Re: hmm, glock .40 + hot loads = bad news Wow! Sounds like he's pretty fortunate. Let us know what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hangunnr Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 Re: hmm, glock .40 + hot loads = bad news [ QUOTE ] glock says if you use your own loads, the warranty is void [/ QUOTE ] Seems pretty clear what they're telling you about using reloads in their guns....... If he was straight up with them about how the gun puked I would guess they'll send it back as they received it as he clearly voided the warranty. If your friend was loading lead bullets that is a major NO-NO in the hexagonal rifilng the Glock barrels sport. There are plenty of aftermarket drop-in barrels available if you want to shoot reloads through your Glocks. hangunnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 Re: hmm, glock .40 + hot loads = bad news [ QUOTE ] he got a load that must have had a double powder charge [/ QUOTE ] .........and he wants Glock to do something to compensate stupidity??? I'm guessing the Glock isn't the only gun that would come apart in that situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZooBear Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 Re: hmm, glock .40 + hot loads = bad news [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] he got a load that must have had a double powder charge [/ QUOTE ] Case closed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 Re: hmm, glock .40 + hot loads = bad news [ QUOTE ] I'm guessing the Glock isn't the only gun that would come apart in that situation. [/ QUOTE ] I know a few Para's that handled it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted September 6, 2005 Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 Re: hmm, glock .40 + hot loads = bad news My S&W 5906 handled a few! Then I bought a Dillon Square Deal B. Never had any problems since with double charges! No offence to Glock owners! Never liked them. When I was shooting pistol competition. I heard too many times about them having to re-place the slide tabs! Still nice guns, too much plastic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Xen Posted September 6, 2005 Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 Re: hmm, glock .40 + hot loads = bad news well, glock has the gun and they are "looking into it" - my friend wasn't trying to get glock to replace the gun, he wanted to let them know what the results of a heavy load can do to the gun. (and strut, c'mon, a double powder charge is accidental, not stupidity...) The worst part of this, is that after extensive searching this weekend, apparently glock .40's are notorious for this happening. I found several forum posts about glocks coming apart, even using factory loads. also, most gun manufacturers have a little fine print stating that using anything other than new factory loads voids your warranty, but nobody actually states that using reloads could be dangerous or even hazardous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted September 6, 2005 Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 Re: hmm, glock .40 + hot loads = bad news Just an FYI - if I'm loading something that's high volume (number of rounds, not case capacity), I'm usually just getting something economical to shoot and not trying for super accuracy. For that I try to choose a powder that's bulky enough to overflow on a double charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hangunnr Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 Re: hmm, glock .40 + hot loads = bad news A blown gun dosen't necessarily mean a double charge. He very well could of had a squib load with enough power to lodge a bullet in the barrel and still chamber the next round. This gets real exciting if the shooter isn't paying attention and goes ahead and rips off the next round. [ QUOTE ] Just an FYI .......... I try to choose a powder that's bulky enough to overflow on a double charge. [/ QUOTE ] I do this too. There is literally no room for a mistake. You usually end up with a much more consistant performer, opposed to using a powder that only partially fills the case. hangunnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 Re: hmm, glock .40 + hot loads = bad news [ QUOTE ] This gets real exciting if the shooter isn't paying attention and goes ahead and rips off the next round. [/ QUOTE ] LOL! I almost seen this happen at a match! I was running the match at the time, and this fellow thought something was wrong. He was having a hard time getting the next round to move from his wheel gun. I looked over and stopped him right away! Pulled him back and asked him to open the cylinder. Yep there was one just stuck inside the forcing cone, just enough room for him too chamber the next round! He was glad he didnt pull that trigger! As far as the powder goes. Maybe this is why I had a few double charges with Winchester 231 Ball powder! Not bulky enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvDog Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 Re: hmm, glock .40 + hot loads = bad news [ QUOTE ] well, glock has the gun and they are "looking into it" - my friend wasn't trying to get glock to replace the gun, he wanted to let them know what the results of a heavy load can do to the gun. (and strut, c'mon, a double powder charge is accidental, not stupidity...) The worst part of this, is that after extensive searching this weekend, apparently glock .40's are notorious for this happening. I found several forum posts about glocks coming apart, even using factory loads. also, most gun manufacturers have a little fine print stating that using anything other than new factory loads voids your warranty, but nobody actually states that using reloads could be dangerous or even hazardous. [/ QUOTE ] Wow! Didn't realize that was so common. Should I not consider a Glock for my first semi-auto? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZooBear Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 Re: hmm, glock .40 + hot loads = bad news You can blow up anything with the right mistake! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 Re: hmm, glock .40 + hot loads = bad news [ QUOTE ] (and strut, c'mon, a double powder charge is accidental, not stupidity...) [/ QUOTE ] Not in my eyes. Its stupidity. If the handloader can't follow simple safety methods, they don't need to be handloading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNY_Whitetailer Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 Re: hmm, glock .40 + hot loads = bad news [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The worst part of this, is that after extensive searching this weekend, apparently glock .40's are notorious for this happening. I found several forum posts about glocks coming apart, even using factory loads. [/ QUOTE ] Wow! Didn't realize that was so common. Should I not consider a Glock for my first semi-auto? [/ QUOTE ] I wouldn't worry too much about it...I have not heard anything to substantiate such a claim...If you want and covet a Glock then buy one in 40cal...A couple months ago I purchased a used Glock 23 and it is a lot of fun to shoot. I love it...I wouldn't hesitate to purchase another one...Although I would also look at the Springfield XD line of pistols too if I were you Harv... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvDog Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 Re: hmm, glock .40 + hot loads = bad news [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The worst part of this, is that after extensive searching this weekend, apparently glock .40's are notorious for this happening. I found several forum posts about glocks coming apart, even using factory loads. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah...I've actually looked at both and like them both alot. I know the Springfield has a lifetime warranty which is a bonus. It will be while before I decide so I'll have some time to think it over. Wow! Didn't realize that was so common. Should I not consider a Glock for my first semi-auto? [/ QUOTE ] I wouldn't worry too much about it...I have not heard anything to substantiate such a claim...If you want and covet a Glock then buy one in 40cal...A couple months ago I purchased a used Glock 23 and it is a lot of fun to shoot. I love it...I wouldn't hesitate to purchase another one...Although I would also look at the Springfield XD line of pistols too if I were you Harv... [/ QUOTE ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Xen Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Re: hmm, glock .40 + hot loads = bad news [ QUOTE ] I wouldn't worry too much about it...I have not heard anything to substantiate such a claim... [/ QUOTE ] well, i didn't post any related stories for the simple reason that i wasn't trying to bash on glocks. i happen to think they are great guns, but, since you "haven't heard anything to substantiate such a claim", i'll post a couple of links... Firing Line Forums Tactical Forums The following safety advisory was received on 05/17/03 from NLETS (National Law Enforcement Telecommunication System). It's editted. Warren Co. Sheriff's Office(TN) reports that on 05/16, while training at the range, 3 deputies were injured when 3 separate G22s exploded in their hands. Ammunition used at the time was Federal Classic 155gr. HI-Shok JHP (Lot #2-42W262 or 2-42N262). 1 deputy was taken to the hospital for minor injuries. you'll be suprised what you can find by simply typing "glock blow up" in a search engine. most cases say it was reloads being used, but a couple were using new factory ammo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvDog Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Re: hmm, glock .40 + hot loads = bad news Wow! Any update on your friend's situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Xen Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Re: hmm, glock .40 + hot loads = bad news actually, i haven't talked to him in a while, i usually see him every now and then at the range, but with the bird hunting starting up, i've been busy chasing doves and working on a new dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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