TreeStandBowHunter Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 My Army dog buddy that lives next door to me is from Vermont. They go up almost every weekend. When they came back Monday, they said that a guy was killed picking black berries from a guy who thought he/it was a bear AT 25 YARDS . I guess your black bear season started already??? Anyway, I talked to him today and he said the guy is being charged with 2nd Degree Murder and guess what the best part is.....he is a Hunter Education Instructor here in Massachusetts Just wondering if you heard about this at all. I am not sure where in VT it happened. I tried to find it in google but couldn't find anything about it??? Whats the scoop on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowtechTurkeyHunter Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 Re: HEY VERMONTERS Thats really bad i bet the guy feals horrible whay a terrible ordeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 Re: HEY VERMONTERS YEP..it's true it happened in the Southern part of the state,,,,,,and there was actuall two of them.... ,,,,,The reason why it's being charge murder is that after they realized the shot the man they left him there to bleed out and die..... I don't know all of the factual details on the situation so I really don't want to comment farther than what I have already said... I feel for this mans family,,,,when are some peole going to actually grow a brain and start using some common sense... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 Re: HEY VERMONTERS Mike I did a little local research for ya and this is what I have found so far...... This information was quoted from ( Local News From WCAX-TV ) Windham County Man Murdered Whitingham, Vermont - September 5, 2005 Police have made an arrest in connection with the murder of a southern Vermont man. On Saturday, 50-year-old Douglas Bartlett of Jacksonville was found shot to death in a wooded area in Whitingham. A tipster called police and said 26-year-old Brian Gilbert of Charlemont, Massachusetts shot Bartlett. During questioning, Gilbert admitted to police he shot Bartlett by accident while he was hunting, saying he thought he shot a bear. Gilbert, who remains behind bars, is charged with second degree murder. I also found this in the Boston.com News... Hunter pleads not guilty to death of Vermont berry picker September 6, 2005 WHITINGHAM, Vt. --A Massachusetts man pleaded not guilty Tuesday to second-degree murder charges in the hunting death of a man shot while berry picking. Alerts Brian Gilbert, 26, of Charlemont, Mass., was about 60 to 70 feet away from Douglas Bartlett, 50, of Jacksonville, when he mistook the victim for a bear, said Windham County State's Attorney Dan Davis. Bartlett was found dead Saturday night. During a court appearance Tuesday in Brattleboro, Gilbert was ordered held for lack of $25,000 bail. Bartlett had been reported missing by his family, who said he had failed to return home from a solo berry picking outing. They called police after finding his car at a pull off near the Massachusetts border. Troopers from the Brattleboro barracks later found Bartlett's body nearby. On Sunday, a relative of Gilbert's called the Massachusetts State Police and reported that Gilbert had admitted shooting and killing a man while on a hunting trip in Vermont. Vermont State Police detectives interviewed Gilbert, who allegedly said he had been hunting with his younger brother when he fired his rifle, killing a man in the area where Bartlett was found. Bear hunting season began Sept. 1. Bartlett, a local building contractor, left his home to go berry picking in the late afternoon, said Don Washburn, an uncle. Bartlett had told his wife to come looking for him if he was not home by nightfall, Washburn said. "He had a little MG and he was sometimes having trouble starting it," Washburn said. "When he wasn't home by dark, his wife went looking for him but couldn't find him." Bartlett's car was later found by his wife and other family members on a dirt road in a rural area about six miles south of Whitingham near the Massachusetts border, according to police. His wife then called 911 and a team of State Police arrived with dogs to search for Bartlett, Washburn said. According to a statement released by Rockingham State Police, Bartlett sustained a gunshot wound to his shoulder. Gilbert is an occasional carpenter who lived in Charlemont, a community 14 miles south of Whitingham, Linda Wagner, Charlemont's town clerk, said Monday. Gilbert was an experienced, avid hunter who had hunted several types of game since he was a teenager and had taken courses on hunting safety, she said. "He was quite proud of that because now he could teach others," she said. "I just can't believe it." Bartlett grew up in Whitingham and attended local schools, graduating from Whitingham High School, said his uncle. He had three daughters. Two are 27-year-old twins and a third daughter attends Lyndon State College in Lyndonville, he said. Bartlett also attended Vermont Technical College in Randolph, where he received a degree in architecture, said Alan Hadley, a self-employed electrician who worked with Bartlett occasionally. Bartlett, a longtime member of the local school board was also active in other civic organizations and well known locally, Hadley said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted September 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 Re: HEY VERMONTERS Yeah so he wasn't a hunter education instructor then. Unless I am blind I don't see where it says that he was one. I see where it says that he likes to teach others but there is a big difference in teaching others the way of the land and being an instructor. I only see where it says that he had once took it. Well heck, we all have ....That's why I wanted info on this, thanks Luke. My Army dog buddy next to me been in MOP level 4 one too many times I think Regardless, he needs to pay. Even at 500 yards or 5000yds, you shouldn't be shooting at anything that you cannot positively identify anyway, peroid. Then he left him there to die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 Re: HEY VERMONTERS Either way Mike it's a very sad and scarey story to say the least..... I really feel for this mans family,,ther was absolutely no need for this to happen,,,,,and then just to leave him there to die,,,,,,,I think it should be Murder 1 in my book....Situations like this need to have stiffer penalties,,and then maybe some people will get some common sense.....or am I hoping for too much ??? I just can't see how people can mistake a human being for a game animal,,,,,,,,other than just blindly shooting into the brush... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 Re: HEY VERMONTERS Why does someone have to die to make us all wake up, just before hunting season. Know your target folks and be dang sure of what your shooting at before you even think about raising that gun to your shoulder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun_300 Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 Re: HEY VERMONTERS Wow, that sure proves how quick and easy accidents happen. Like Steve said, be ABSOLUTELY sure of your targets. Once the gun is fired, you can't call back that bullet. My Prayers and Condolences go out to the family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 Re: HEY VERMONTERS Thats how my buddy got shot...50 yards away at dusk,guy thought he was a bear.He is a very lucky man to be alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowJoe Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 Re: HEY VERMONTERS Did everyone notice the slight attempts to belittle hunters in general. I may be wrong but... ["Gilbert was an experienced, avid hunter who had hunted several types of game since he was a teenager and had taken courses on hunting safety, she said. "He was quite proud of that because now he could teach others," she said. "I just can't believe it."] Not sure but it sounds like they were indicating that no matter how much education you have in hunting or safety education, innocent people are still the victims. Like I said, I may be overreacting, but Mass. isn't the most hunter friendly state in the Union. JMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted September 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 Re: HEY VERMONTERS [ QUOTE ] , but Mass. isn't the most hunter friendly state in the Union. JMO [/ QUOTE ] Oh buddy, you hit it right on the nail. I currently live in Mass...not because I want to but because I am stationed here for 3 years. Mass sucks for hunters man. You won't believe the crap I had to go through to bring my guns up here. This is not a friendly hunter state and this crap here doesn't help. They have a bunch of good land too that's loaded with deer but it seems like everything they do have it a refuge or a conversation land that you can't hunt. This state sucks if you ask me. I don't know who in their right mind would want to live here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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