Guest MarylandQDMA Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 what is the story behind the court case? F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need2hunt Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 Re: New Oklahoma State Record Non-Typical There was an issue of if he had permission t hunt on the property he took the deer... [ QUOTE ] Michael Crossland didn't have much time to celebrate when he shot what is expected to be the largest whitetail deer ever killed in Oklahoma — a monster buck with a 31-point set of antlers worth thousands of dollars. Instead, the antlers were seized by the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation and a charge of hunting without permission was filed against him. If convicted, he could be fined, face jail time, or both. "It's been a heck of a mess," said Crossland, a 25-year-old farmer and rancher. On Nov. 23, Crossland said he was with a landowner's hired hand, who went to retrieve a four-wheeler and gave Crossland his rifle in case he spotted any big deer. [...] "I didn't know he was that big until he fell," Crossland said. "He fell and he rolled his head, and that's when I said, 'Oh my gosh.'" But as word quickly spread about the huge deer, problems started to mount for Crossland. Landowner Ryan Hunt, 26, requested the hunting charge, and if convicted Crossland faces a fine of up to $200 and 30 days in the county jail. It would then be up to the court to decide who gets to keep the antlers. Crossland said he considered Hunt a friend, but they haven't spoken since the deer was shot. Crossland also said he's previously worked for the Hunt family and was told he could hunt on their property as long as he was with a family member or Greg Platner, the farmhand who was with Crossland on the day he shot the deer. Hunt wouldn't specifically say whether he and Crossland were friends or whether he gave Crossland permission to hunt on his property. [...] Although the antlers have not officially been scored under a standardized system, Yukon taxidermist Gerald Hillman measured the horns and said he's confident it will be a new state record for non-typical antlers, which refers to a lack of symmetry on each side of the rack. Hillman estimated the antlers will score about 246 or 247 points. The current non-typical state record in Oklahoma is 240 3/8 from a whitetail in 2003. [/ QUOTE ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntinsonovagun Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 Re: New Oklahoma State Record Non-Typical Makes me sick. Why ruin a friendship over a deer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeygirl Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 Re: New Oklahoma State Record Non-Typical Nice deer, if it's real. The sad thing is more people seem to hunt for the biggest buck to beat someone else's score rather than hunt for the love of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdoc Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 Re: New Oklahoma State Record Non-Typical i'm pretty sure the case has a judgement and the hunter (not the landowner) won the case---so he gets to keep his deer. If it would have been a 120" 8 pointer there would have never been a dispute. great buck todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washi Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 Re: New Oklahoma State Record Non-Typical [ QUOTE ] i'm pretty sure the case has a judgement and the hunter (not the landowner) won the case---so he gets to keep his deer. If it would have been a 120" 8 pointer there would have never been a dispute. great buck todd [/ QUOTE ] I agree. He had permission to hunt, apparently he just didn't have permission to shoot one that big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowtechTurkeyHunter Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Re: New Oklahoma State Record Non-Typical [ QUOTE ] Makes me sick. Why ruin a friendship over a deer? [/ QUOTE ] Happens all the time same thing happened with the Michigan state record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkhntnfool Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Re: New Oklahoma State Record Non-Typical very nice deer but a sad story about how the landowner be-friended him over a deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puffy Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Re: New Oklahoma State Record Non-Typical With friends like that who needs enemies! What a big stink becuase the land owner was choked that his friend shot a record book buck on the property instead of him. I'm glad the hunter got his trophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robk Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Re: New Oklahoma State Record Non-Typical i am glad he won that battle. the whole thign was due to the animal was shot on land he was given permission and the animal if i remember right got over onthe other land and the owner saw it and decided to be an **** about he whole thing if i remember the story right rob k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Re: New Oklahoma State Record Non-Typical Awesome deer, to bad there was a dispute over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhunter91 Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Re: New Oklahoma State Record Non-Typical Yup. Read about it last month in an old NAHC magazine. I'm glad he got them back. It was ok for him to hunt, but once he shot a big deer, there was a problem. Just shows how you important it is to have written permission . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Re: New Oklahoma State Record Non-Typical I'm not surprised the dispute happened, considering that the rack has a monetary value of $50,000 + if the owner ever decides to sell it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kat Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Re: New Oklahoma State Record Non-Typical [ QUOTE ] The old non-typical Cy Curtis record whitetail was taken in 2003 in Hughes County, scored 240 3/8 and had a total of 29 points. The current Boone and Crockett record non-typical whitetail was taken in Johnston County in 1970 with a score of 247 2/8. [/ QUOTE ] That deer was taking less than 1/4 mile from my house on the land right across from ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Re: New Oklahoma State Record Non-Typical [ QUOTE ] That deer was taking less than 1/4 mile from my house on the land right across from ours. [/ QUOTE ] Like I always tell ya Kyle: Them deer just seem to know where they'll be safe at. He was probably headed to your land and some hunter cut him off... He was probably on his way from Jason's.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosdog2 Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Re: New Oklahoma State Record Non-Typical Dang that is huge!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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